Menu
Sign In Search Podcasts Charts People & Topics Add Podcast API Blog Pricing

Vera Bergengruen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
147 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And they really like what we kind of called, you know, deal now, details later.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They want to just declare, you know, there's been some kind of agreement.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And then all of the details have to be worked out after there's been some kind of agreement.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

That's definitely not how the Iranians do these things.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And that's not how most negotiations work.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

There wasn't more detail than that.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

We didn't know what would happen to those tankers, what would happen to those ships, who's going to be doing this.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

He said that other countries had signed up to help the U.S.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

with this blockade, which seems very unlikely and we still don't know which countries those are.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

So I think when we first saw that, you know, I guess our main question was, does the U.S.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

have the capability to even do that and who's going to be doing it with them?

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

What they are hoping is that they are going to impose so much economic pain by not allowing these ships through that they are going to choke off the little bit of remaining revenue that is coming into what's left of Iran's economy.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And that without the tolls, without the ships, without being able to sell oilโ€ฆ

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

that they are going to impose so much economic damage on Iran that they are basically going to blink first.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Of course, the flip side of that is that it's also going to cause big pain to the global economy.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

So now it just becomes a matter of who can withstand the most pain.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And from speaking to officials and analysts, I mean, it's kind of a toss-up.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Right.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

It's basically kind of, you know, the way the president has described this, it's a necessary short-term pain that everyone is going to have to suffer in order to, you know, really severely weaken Iran and bring them back to the negotiating table or at least force them to give up more concessions.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And he's been very clear on that.