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Vera Bergengruen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
147 total appearances

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The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And we have Marco Rubio and Trump, you know, watching two guys beat each other up in Miami.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Ultimately, he walked out after 21 hours and he said, you know, we weren't able to reach an agreement.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

There's no deal.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And so ultimately, the vice president said that the negotiations broke down specifically because Iran would not commit to not pursuing nuclear weapons and, you know, kind of curbing their nuclear ambitions.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

But as far as we can tell, it was about more than that.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

What did Iran say?

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Iran said that the United States was not approaching this in good faith.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They said that the United States was coming in, again, with like a fantasy wish list of the demands of a victor, of somebody who's won a war and is forcing concessions on another country.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And in their view, they still have control of the Strait of Hormuz.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They're still in control.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

So, you know, Iran wasn't approaching this as someone who has lost the war and who has to concede.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They didn't see that as somebody really approaching this in a serious and good faith way.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Again, I mean, when the president himself is saying, we've already won, I don't really care what happens in these negotiations.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

I think that was a very unusual message to say ahead of a negotiation.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

You know, when you think how long it took 10 plus years ago to settle a couple of points on the nuclear program, that took hundreds of people and many years.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And now they were trying to do that and 10 other things at the same time without having done any of the pre-meetings with lower level people getting on the same page, you know.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

These negotiations are incredibly complicated.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And this is how the Trump administration in his second term has approached all of these.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

We saw this in Gaza, in Ukraine.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They tend to try to invert the whole process.