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Vera Bergengruen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
147 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They are going in and they're saying, we want you to not pursue nuclear weapons.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

We want you to reopen the Strait of Hormuz in unrestricted terms.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

We want you to curb all of your behavior in the region.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

So the U.S.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

is coming in with really major demands.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Iran wants sanctions to be lifted and, you know, they just basically want an end to the hostilities.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

But they're both coming there and neither side appears to think they have lost.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And so the United States seems to think they have the upper hand on Iran.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Iran seems to think that they have very critical leverage over the United States because of their control of this waterway.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

So they're both there kind of not willing to be, you know, out leveraged, I guess.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Right.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

I mean, both sides last week had essentially declared victory.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Right.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

Another really important thing to set the scene, I think, is that President Trump repeatedly said, we don't really need a deal.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And going in, he's telling reporters, I don't care.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They can make a deal.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

They can't.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

We've already won.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And he himself was actually in Miami watching, you know, a UFC fight with Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

The Journal.
The Strait of Hormuz Showdown

And there's this bizarre split screen where everyone's waiting for the vice president after 20 hours of negotiations in Pakistan.