Vic Harris

And now they're in the real sticking point.

Fast forward 50 years later and China has a stronghold over Apple in terms of because it does get so much manufactured there and it has nowhere else to go.

Really?

It's interesting, yeah.

Yeah, and you're right.

It's like all the products that came out under Steve Jobs have been a roaring – well, most of them, you know, like the majority have been roaring success.

The majority that have come out under Tim Cook haven't been.

Is that a function of the fact that the market's just oversaturated?

Everyone that wants an iPhone has an iPhone.

Or is it the fact that the products just haven't been – Innovative enough.

Yeah, or is innovative enough?

Is everyone exhausted by Apple?

You know, is there another brand or product that –

will be a status symbol and better designed and, you know, who knows?

And that's kind of what people are asking with this new CEO.

It's like, can he, you know, produce hit after hit after hit?

You might put it in me.

Yeah, I don't know why.

It'll be beautifully designed little chip in my chest.

But yes, with any new CEO coming into a business, if you own shares in it or whatever, it's really important to look at the track record of that person coming in.