Vic Harris

If they've had a really good track record, it's harder with people internally because you kind of don't know, but that's why people are going off like, oh, he's an engineering product guy, so maybe he's going to bring some new shine to the product space with Apple or the product suite.

But yeah, if he was coming outside and he was from,

I don't know, Disney and had done a really great job at Disney and the share price had done fantastically well, then yeah, you'd be like, okay.

Well, nothing's certain, but at least it's something to hang your hat on about.

Do you know what I mean?

Even looking at Tim Cook, where's he going to go next?

Is he going to go on the board of something?

You'd be like, because he's done so well at Apple.

I think he is going to be on the board of Apple.

Yes, no, I mean like the board of like another company that you could buy shares in, that you could, yeah, that kind of thing.

Yeah, he's going to stay on the board of Apple, which is quite good in itself.

No.

Like, oh, amazing, you gave the word AirPods, get out.

Imagine being him and you'd have people knocking on your door being like, hey, do you want to be on the board of my company or do you want to be my CEO?

What do you mean?

Post my birthday.

And all my friends were like, oh, did you see the story on the curb?

I was like, no.

And I realized that I wasn't.

How did we do that so bad?