Vic Nazar

although if you can debate second or third, however you want to shake that one out.

You know, Jonathan Tays, Matt Duchesne, Pat LaFontaine, Jay Bomeester.

There's been some strong players.

Miro Iskanen here recently drafted third.

So there's been some strong guys at third.

But, yes, ultimately it is not first overall.

Also here recently is people texting in like,

Tim Stutzla, Mason McTavish, Adam Fantilli, Beckett Seneca here recently, Anton Frondell.

So again, good players have gone three.

Is it that draft class?

We'll talk about that with Chain coming up here in just a bit.

But I think the sting of losing out on number one is more about Toronto winning than it is about sliding down two spots.

Because I think a lot of people knew, hey, the reality was you could slide down two spots.

Yeah, I'm curious too.

The commentary from Rutherford there talking about the rough patch and rock bottom, is that a projection of like, hey, 58 points is not something that we should be trying to do repeatedly?

We had the call earlier about not being tankest, right?

Is that the comment?

Still might finish 32nd, but you can't be in a spot where you're finishing with 58 points because of the development environment you're creating for some of the people, of the young players coming up through this.

70 points is well enough to put you in a spot for 32nd, but it's the vagueness of a comment like rough patch.

Because it was so bad this season.