Vicki Ward

Yeah, so Maxwell was key because she was this wealthy, sophisticated woman who

And she would go out.

You have to remember Jeffrey Epstein didn't really go out, which is one of the reasons he was such a mystery and why I was asked to report on him in the first place.

The person who was out and about in New York and all over the world was Ghislaine Maxwell.

And now we know why.

What she was doing, she was looking for young models, young girls and trawling the sort of social scene in New York.

So she would find these young girls, often women, children who looked up to her greatly.

Because she was so sophisticated and knew so many rich and important people.

And so then she would bring them in.

And you heard this again and again at her trial.

She would bring these young girls.

She would introduce them to Jeffrey Epstein.

She would playfully suggest they all massage Jeffrey Epstein's feet.

She would then...

get undressed whilst giving Jeffrey Epstein a massage.

She would normalize this sexual behavior in front of them.

And so because of her, they trusted what was going on and then took part in it.

And so I think her role was absolutely phenomenal.

critical in the recruiting and grooming of these young girls and she was also critical in expanding Jeffrey Epstein's

rolodex amongst the powerful people around the world.