Vicki Ward

And that's when I phoned the Farmer Sisters.

We hadn't been in touch for all those years.

And I had left Vanity Fair by then.

And I said, what do you think?

Do you think we try again now?

Do you think we say what happened?

And they said, yeah, let's go for it.

And so that's why...

We changed tack, and that's why I wrote a piece in 2015 saying the sisters had been cut from Vanity Fair.

I mean, obviously, the draft of that email about Bill Gates was extraordinary.

And Melinda Gates coming out and saying it triggered very painful memories.

I mean, I think Melinda Gates, unlike her ex-husband, clearly had better judgment of people.

And, you know, for all the people who say, oh, well, I went to see Jeffrey Epstein, I didn't see the girls.

There are also people

I've spoken to who did walk into his house once, took one look around and looked at all these young women and did immediately leave.

And I think that what you see is that people like Melinda Gates clearly

got that same vibe.

You know, what Bill Gates wanted from Jeffrey Epstein is something that does make sense.

You know, Epstein had a Rolodex of other billionaires around the world, and Bill Gates wanted to scale up his philanthropy.

And so did Warren Buffett.