Vicky Osterweil

And in the 2010s, like one of the things that happened from like 2011, arguably 2009, but definitely 2011 to 2020 was that wherever you were, it was never more than probably 18 months before there was like something else going off in the streets. And so, although those could be very hard, those waves could be very difficult. Um,

And in the 2010s, like one of the things that happened from like 2011, arguably 2009, but definitely 2011 to 2020 was that wherever you were, it was never more than probably 18 months before there was like something else going off in the streets. And so, although those could be very hard, those waves could be very difficult. Um,

you still had a lot of periods where, you know, you could just sort of be waiting and it would just sort of happen again. That was certainly what I was doing in that decade in a way that I don't think I appreciated until it was over. Yeah. Because the last four years has been very different. The rhythm has been very different since the pandemic started. And I can't just say panini on this podcast.

you still had a lot of periods where, you know, you could just sort of be waiting and it would just sort of happen again. That was certainly what I was doing in that decade in a way that I don't think I appreciated until it was over. Yeah. Because the last four years has been very different. The rhythm has been very different since the pandemic started. And I can't just say panini on this podcast.

you still had a lot of periods where, you know, you could just sort of be waiting and it would just sort of happen again. That was certainly what I was doing in that decade in a way that I don't think I appreciated until it was over. Yeah. Because the last four years has been very different. The rhythm has been very different since the pandemic started. And I can't just say panini on this podcast.

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Yeah. Since the pandemic started... You know, those rhythms have been disrupted. And I think the Biden counter-revolution against 2020, which has also really disrupted those things. And in that space, it has felt very clear to me personally, and I'm older, you know, whatever. I'm like, you know, a movement elder at this point, just because our movements are so youth focused, not because...

Yeah. Since the pandemic started... You know, those rhythms have been disrupted. And I think the Biden counter-revolution against 2020, which has also really disrupted those things. And in that space, it has felt very clear to me personally, and I'm older, you know, whatever. I'm like, you know, a movement elder at this point, just because our movements are so youth focused, not because...

Yeah. Since the pandemic started... You know, those rhythms have been disrupted. And I think the Biden counter-revolution against 2020, which has also really disrupted those things. And in that space, it has felt very clear to me personally, and I'm older, you know, whatever. I'm like, you know, a movement elder at this point, just because our movements are so youth focused, not because...

And actually old. Like the decade before 2011, from like 2001, you know, from 9-11 until sort of Occupy is sort of how I periodize it a bit. There wasn't a ton of street movement. You had the Iraq War stuff that was really, really big. And there were important exceptions to that in the U.S., I'm doing a pod of history here.

And actually old. Like the decade before 2011, from like 2001, you know, from 9-11 until sort of Occupy is sort of how I periodize it a bit. There wasn't a ton of street movement. You had the Iraq War stuff that was really, really big. And there were important exceptions to that in the U.S., I'm doing a pod of history here.

And actually old. Like the decade before 2011, from like 2001, you know, from 9-11 until sort of Occupy is sort of how I periodize it a bit. There wasn't a ton of street movement. You had the Iraq War stuff that was really, really big. And there were important exceptions to that in the U.S., I'm doing a pod of history here.

Obviously there's exceptions to this, but you definitely had all this time and the stuff that was sustained and remembered were largely like sort of cultural projects. And so like, I think like now as we're moving into this era here in North America, um, on turtle Island of extreme repressive danger, right? Like we shouldn't like joke about it or downplay it.

Obviously there's exceptions to this, but you definitely had all this time and the stuff that was sustained and remembered were largely like sort of cultural projects. And so like, I think like now as we're moving into this era here in North America, um, on turtle Island of extreme repressive danger, right? Like we shouldn't like joke about it or downplay it.

Obviously there's exceptions to this, but you definitely had all this time and the stuff that was sustained and remembered were largely like sort of cultural projects. And so like, I think like now as we're moving into this era here in North America, um, on turtle Island of extreme repressive danger, right? Like we shouldn't like joke about it or downplay it.

Like we were facing a lot of extreme repression and, uh, fascists back in the streets in a big way. It doesn't feel like big political organizing of the kind that happened during the first Trump administration where people did a lot of marching in circles, but there were targets for the pressure. They don't feel as relevant now. Now I'm really off. Now I'm way off.

Like we were facing a lot of extreme repression and, uh, fascists back in the streets in a big way. It doesn't feel like big political organizing of the kind that happened during the first Trump administration where people did a lot of marching in circles, but there were targets for the pressure. They don't feel as relevant now. Now I'm really off. Now I'm way off.

Like we were facing a lot of extreme repression and, uh, fascists back in the streets in a big way. It doesn't feel like big political organizing of the kind that happened during the first Trump administration where people did a lot of marching in circles, but there were targets for the pressure. They don't feel as relevant now. Now I'm really off. Now I'm way off.