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Victor Riparbelli

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
801 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

OpenAI clearly managed to capture the consumer as in the destination that you go to to use an LLM. I think we'll see LLMs being a part of many different apps.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

OpenAI clearly managed to capture the consumer as in the destination that you go to to use an LLM. I think we'll see LLMs being a part of many different apps.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

OpenAI clearly managed to capture the consumer as in the destination that you go to to use an LLM. I think we'll see LLMs being a part of many different apps.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And I think owning X along with building the LLMs is actually really powerful, especially for the real-time information that will be able to feed into the models directly from X. And the fact that X, of course, already has hundreds of million users that in theory at least could start using their LLMs rather than going to

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And I think owning X along with building the LLMs is actually really powerful, especially for the real-time information that will be able to feed into the models directly from X. And the fact that X, of course, already has hundreds of million users that in theory at least could start using their LLMs rather than going to

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And I think owning X along with building the LLMs is actually really powerful, especially for the real-time information that will be able to feed into the models directly from X. And the fact that X, of course, already has hundreds of million users that in theory at least could start using their LLMs rather than going to

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Clearly, there are still gains to be made from scaling, I think, especially if you look outside the text domain, but like in video, audio, etc., 3D. So you agree that scaling laws will continue? I think they will continue, but I don't think it's just going to be linear, like whoever has the most compute is going to win. The world rarely works in those ways. Something will happen, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Clearly, there are still gains to be made from scaling, I think, especially if you look outside the text domain, but like in video, audio, etc., 3D. So you agree that scaling laws will continue? I think they will continue, but I don't think it's just going to be linear, like whoever has the most compute is going to win. The world rarely works in those ways. Something will happen, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Clearly, there are still gains to be made from scaling, I think, especially if you look outside the text domain, but like in video, audio, etc., 3D. So you agree that scaling laws will continue? I think they will continue, but I don't think it's just going to be linear, like whoever has the most compute is going to win. The world rarely works in those ways. Something will happen, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Someone will come up with an algorithm that is like 100 times as efficient as what it is today. I think compute is important, but I actually also think data is... Actually, I would say compute algorithms and data, maybe. I think in algorithms, what everyone is trying to build into more or less any AI system today is control, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Someone will come up with an algorithm that is like 100 times as efficient as what it is today. I think compute is important, but I actually also think data is... Actually, I would say compute algorithms and data, maybe. I think in algorithms, what everyone is trying to build into more or less any AI system today is control, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Someone will come up with an algorithm that is like 100 times as efficient as what it is today. I think compute is important, but I actually also think data is... Actually, I would say compute algorithms and data, maybe. I think in algorithms, what everyone is trying to build into more or less any AI system today is control, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

We've proven these things are extremely capable at replicating the real world, producing video that looks real, audio that looks real, text that sounds real. But what we all really want to do is get a deeper level of control over these things. In my world, it's like you have some of the big video generation models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

We've proven these things are extremely capable at replicating the real world, producing video that looks real, audio that looks real, text that sounds real. But what we all really want to do is get a deeper level of control over these things. In my world, it's like you have some of the big video generation models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

We've proven these things are extremely capable at replicating the real world, producing video that looks real, audio that looks real, text that sounds real. But what we all really want to do is get a deeper level of control over these things. In my world, it's like you have some of the big video generation models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I kind of delineate what we do versus like what Zora does or Runway or something like that. Zora and Runway, these models, extremely capable, extremely powerful, right? You type something in, basically anything you type in, it'll actually spit out. And that's really, really powerful. And it's a great demo.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I kind of delineate what we do versus like what Zora does or Runway or something like that. Zora and Runway, these models, extremely capable, extremely powerful, right? You type something in, basically anything you type in, it'll actually spit out. And that's really, really powerful. And it's a great demo.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I kind of delineate what we do versus like what Zora does or Runway or something like that. Zora and Runway, these models, extremely capable, extremely powerful, right? You type something in, basically anything you type in, it'll actually spit out. And that's really, really powerful. And it's a great demo.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

But to really be able to use this, you have to be able to say, I want this same character in a different scene. I want the character to say this particular, like there's so many layers of control. And those are very hard to build in because every time we try to build them in, it decreases the overall fidelity.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

But to really be able to use this, you have to be able to say, I want this same character in a different scene. I want the character to say this particular, like there's so many layers of control. And those are very hard to build in because every time we try to build them in, it decreases the overall fidelity.