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Victor Riparbelli

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
801 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

But to really be able to use this, you have to be able to say, I want this same character in a different scene. I want the character to say this particular, like there's so many layers of control. And those are very hard to build in because every time we try to build them in, it decreases the overall fidelity.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Because all of a sudden, you're trying to make the model do what you want it to do, rather than just replicate whatever a real kind of looks like. And so I think getting those layers of control in is going to be difficult. I think that is going to be a lot of algorithms figuring out, like... To what extent is Grok's lack of layers of control a problem or a benefit?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Because all of a sudden, you're trying to make the model do what you want it to do, rather than just replicate whatever a real kind of looks like. And so I think getting those layers of control in is going to be difficult. I think that is going to be a lot of algorithms figuring out, like... To what extent is Grok's lack of layers of control a problem or a benefit?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Because all of a sudden, you're trying to make the model do what you want it to do, rather than just replicate whatever a real kind of looks like. And so I think getting those layers of control in is going to be difficult. I think that is going to be a lot of algorithms figuring out, like... To what extent is Grok's lack of layers of control a problem or a benefit?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Well, there's controls like content moderation, and then there's like controlling the output, right? So the thing that I'm talking about here is like the slot machine kind of thing. You type something in, you get something out. Then you try and change the problem, but you pull the slot machine again, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Well, there's controls like content moderation, and then there's like controlling the output, right? So the thing that I'm talking about here is like the slot machine kind of thing. You type something in, you get something out. Then you try and change the problem, but you pull the slot machine again, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

Well, there's controls like content moderation, and then there's like controlling the output, right? So the thing that I'm talking about here is like the slot machine kind of thing. You type something in, you get something out. Then you try and change the problem, but you pull the slot machine again, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And it's very frustrating if you're trying to get to something specific because the model just doesn't really put it out. You want to have some degree of control in there. I think on the moderation, that'll be interesting to see how it's going to pan out, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And it's very frustrating if you're trying to get to something specific because the model just doesn't really put it out. You want to have some degree of control in there. I think on the moderation, that'll be interesting to see how it's going to pan out, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And it's very frustrating if you're trying to get to something specific because the model just doesn't really put it out. You want to have some degree of control in there. I think on the moderation, that'll be interesting to see how it's going to pan out, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I think we're definitely in the middle of like a vibe shift with Zuckerberg also pulling back moderation, which I think in general, I'm in favor of that. I don't think that like humans moderating content is the right way forward. I think community notes.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I think we're definitely in the middle of like a vibe shift with Zuckerberg also pulling back moderation, which I think in general, I'm in favor of that. I don't think that like humans moderating content is the right way forward. I think community notes.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I think we're definitely in the middle of like a vibe shift with Zuckerberg also pulling back moderation, which I think in general, I'm in favor of that. I don't think that like humans moderating content is the right way forward. I think community notes.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I've seen the statement. I don't have the actual details of it, but I think it is directionally correct that having humans sitting down and evaluating content is not the right way of doing it. I think what we've seen with products like Wikipedia, for example, is that the collective power of people working together to arrive at some sort of truth is really, really powerful.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I've seen the statement. I don't have the actual details of it, but I think it is directionally correct that having humans sitting down and evaluating content is not the right way of doing it. I think what we've seen with products like Wikipedia, for example, is that the collective power of people working together to arrive at some sort of truth is really, really powerful.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

I've seen the statement. I don't have the actual details of it, but I think it is directionally correct that having humans sitting down and evaluating content is not the right way of doing it. I think what we've seen with products like Wikipedia, for example, is that the collective power of people working together to arrive at some sort of truth is really, really powerful.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And I think community nodes is kind of like taking that Wikipedia way of thinking about the world and trying to implement that into every single piece of content. And it's not easy and it's not solved yet, but I do think that is the right way for us to have some degree of control of what people do and say. Where it gets really messy is this kind of like... gray content.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And I think community nodes is kind of like taking that Wikipedia way of thinking about the world and trying to implement that into every single piece of content. And it's not easy and it's not solved yet, but I do think that is the right way for us to have some degree of control of what people do and say. Where it gets really messy is this kind of like... gray content.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

And I think community nodes is kind of like taking that Wikipedia way of thinking about the world and trying to implement that into every single piece of content. And it's not easy and it's not solved yet, but I do think that is the right way for us to have some degree of control of what people do and say. Where it gets really messy is this kind of like... gray content.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why Scaling Laws Will Not Continue | OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai: Who Wins and Why | How Far Will Model Providers Go Into the Application Layer | The End State for Models: Many Specialised or Few Generalised with Victor Riparbelli @ Synthesia

We have the problem at Synthesia as well, right? We have basically a product internally for content moderation. The hard thing is you have what we call the green content. The content that everyone agrees is great. That's 99.9% of the content. You have the red content, hate speech, violence. Most people will agree that that's bad as well.