Victor Wembanyama
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We were watching football the other day and it was just like Tubi this and Tubi that. I was like, oh, look who's come out and decided to play with the big boys.
So wait, yours was Cruising? That was the one that I was like, this will be our last pot if we actually go for it.
I honestly can't. Cruising would just be like, if you can do cruising, if you can do proof of life, you can do anything. If you can pump up the volume, when pump up the volume is not available to be seen, then what can't you do? True.
It's huge. I mean, I'm dying to do that.
Do you feel like there should be a promotion and relegation system for the— We've already got rid of a couple people, right? Yeah, but we also—we got rid of one and added three. But there needs to be, like, five or seven.
Yeah. Would this movie have been improved with an eight-minute Jerry Jones monologue? That's a good idea. I'm going to throw that in.
Like, would Black Panther be improved if Jerry Jones was just like, here's how I bought the scalpel?
Am I on drugs, or is this really good? I also think that when they cut away to Billy Bob and Ham and the various reaction shots, they seemed legit impressed.
Well, they're like, Don Draper, why don't you lie there with some tubes up your nose while the Cowboys owner does a 10-minute scene? Does Don Draper come back?
You don't want Miami the town.
Is there another iconic Boston landmark that could be robbed?
I don't know. So you would set it in Massachusetts or the Keys? Florida. I think people try to redo this. Like when they do sequels, I think they try to just run back the hits instead of like expanding it out.
And I think it would be really cool if it like Shine shows up in Florida and is like, I need a million bucks by next week or these guys in Boston are going to kill me because my boyfriend's gotten us in trouble.
Jesus. Where'd this come from? I don't know. That's amazing.
I think that happens a lot in spy thrillers. You'll all of a sudden get the Ed Norton, Chris Cooper character to start screaming at people who are like, God damn it, I need a secure line.
Yes. So like, I think Giamatti and sideways is a really good one from this, right?
How is it that we've done rounders twice? We've done rounders twice. And that never came up.
I was thinking about this. Roadhouse would have this maybe.
Basic instinct. Sure. Yeah.
Yeah. Steven Seagal heard about no intimacy coordinator in Enora and he was like, I respect it. We didn't have one on hard to kill either.
I guess so, yeah. There's not a lot of twists in Lord of the Rings.
I have a similar story to this, which was like spring 96, like whenever Menace to Society came out. Yeah. I had already seen it in theaters and was going back for the second time with a bunch of friends, but like was a kid and couldn't control myself. So I was like, no, there's just a fucking amazing shot when they go through there. And then this guy's like bang and bang.
And this dude just turns around. He goes, excuse me. I haven't seen the movie yet. I just, like, melted. You're like, I'm never talking to mine again.
The movie finishes sooner than you'd expected. I was wondering what the reverse of this would be. Like what is the, they went on for another 20 or 30 minutes longer than I thought. Yeah. It's just like the one more pump. Like, like what is, what is the reverse Forrest Gump that where you're like, oh wow. So damn it. Thieves. Like we're still going, huh? Now we're in England.
This movie ended four times.
I think I would bring Sean Penn because Sean Penn also insists on smoking in every on-screen interview he does where he's like, I think that's part of the barrier to entry is like you got to let Penn smoke American spirits on camera.
Didn't we do some kind of invert... No, was that on Big Picture? I can't remember.
And it just like... But now you do Roger Ebert as ChatGPT, which is more offensive than Rotten Tomatoes. Or Brilliant. Depends where you're sitting. Is your dream to replace me and Sean and Craig with actual Siskel and Ebert ChatGPTs?
Oh, I would like to see the stats on the movies we've done. Like how many below, sub 50 percenters have we done?
There's some really good spreadsheets out there. People, people do the work. We have to, I just have to look them up.
This is good. Really solid. I have a couple. They're pretty obvious, though. Like, I think I would have swum out after the girl in the first scene of Jaws. Like, I would have just been like... Oh, so you die in Jaws. Immediately, first scene. I'm not making any of the leaps in Raiders in the first, with the boulder rolling behind me.
Yeah, I just don't have much of a broad jump. Then there are moments where I might have died as a bystander, which I really like, which is like my financial advisor is right by the bank robbery and heat. So I can imagine like coming out and be like, I'm really glad I invested in my Roth. That's a good one.
Um, but did you have like a mediator come in? What happened? No, it's good.
What do you do if on Much to Bill's Chagrin month we put up like insane numbers? Because we do Lord of the Rings.
Would you be on these much to Bill Shaboon?
I'm just hosting playing point guard. But would you be like Julius Randall and like ruining the vibe? No.
Yeah, but there's a lot of thought that goes into this because you want to pick one that he would never pick, but that he would still be a good sport to watch and be into.
But there are a bunch of movies that I know you want to do, but you're pacing yourself for, right?
Yeah, I mean, I would probably pick something like... I would probably pick something like Hot Fuzz or Ex Machina or something like that. Like, they're not that far out. So I'm just on the pod.
I gotta say, these are pretty watchable movies.
Yeah, I would also throw After Hours in there.
Yeah, because I feel like... He's just like, you guys need another shot? You guys need another angle? Because I'll spark up again.
I like that. Yeah. Like, how would you get out of, if you were Karen Hill, how would you get out of flushing all the cocaine when Henry comes home from jail? Right. Just like, that was all the money we had! Karen! You know, it's like, I don't want to live in a world where we have to sell cocaine just to make ends meet, you know? Yeah. What was the right move for her there?
You know, like, it's usually if you're flushing it down the toilet, I think it's because— You have seconds. I think the DEA is outside.
Where else are you going, though? You can't go sink or shower or something. This is a great YouTube series. Does Chris and Bill try things that they've seen in movies? Well, I worry when I, like, put gum in the toilet.
Yeah, I mean, I think that Dion specifically works for the movies that we love to talk about and it's a celebration. I was thinking that there is like a Sam Darnold award that we could give out to somebody who has like an incredible three quarters of a movie.
Yeah, system roles. It's like people who are only good in Sorkin or only good in Paul Thomas Anderson movies or whatever, yeah.
And then we would have to do the Kevin O'Connell press conference afterwards where he's just like, I just wish him the best on his journey.
Do you feel like there is a comparable modern equivalent to Dion? No. I feel like this guy has gotten a little bit legislated out of the game. The Dan Waiter Seachuck guy? Yeah, the Lou Williams. I came in and I dropped 21 in 18 minutes, but I can't play defense and, you know.
I was legitimately like, who's Peyton Pritchard for a second?
It's such a staple of the show. He's an icon of our pod.
But we can add Sam Darnold just to mix it up.
Neil lives in Malibu. He lives on the beach. When he says, I live up here, he's joking. Because she goes, that's really funny. I think he's alluding to the idea that he lives upstairs from the restaurant.
There's a couple of times where he says things to Edie that are, like, probably purposely to, like, lead her astray if she was ever questioned by the police. Like, I think he says he's from the Bay, you know, stuff like that, that he did time in the Bay, but he's not from there. And so I think that the house that they sleep in that first night is a rental.
And A, it's movie magic, so, like, obviously people's houses are usually nicer in the movies and TV. And B, it was the 90s, so maybe Edie could get, like, a decent place in the hills that had a good view. So that's Edie's place that he leaves her at.
Kind of get away. I could see him having a safe house. Like a Torrance. Yeah. Think he has a burner room like Raheem?
This is the Vincent Chase award, right?
Are we sure this character is good at their job?
I think we could put George Ellerbee in for Vincent Chase, yeah.
Empire Records is coming up a lot in this mailbag.
Oh yeah, what are the odds that Neil... That Neil's about to kill Wayne Grove. Yeah, that he just stays in the car.
What were the odds Charlene was just going to let Chris enjoy this night?
Yeah, let's put more attention on smoking. Let's promote it.
Well, we've done a bunch. Jen suggested Witness, which I think is being scouted. At close range is Lancaster, but it's still an awesome movie. And then after that, we pretty much just have 12 Monkeys left.
Who is our Mount Rushmore for cigarette smokers? For just actually good ones or the Tom Cruise one? Because to me, Jimmy Conway is Jordan. Sean Penn, Jimmy Conway, I think...
You do have to release the movie a week in advance. This really comes down to one man. Yeah. Well, I don't think we could do.
They can also send them to me. As a special like Wednesday YouTube thing, we could read out the reader Luke Wilson hottest.
Yeah. You don't want anybody getting in your airspace when you're thinking about... Well, you could have them email me and I could go through them.
He's all-time number one. Are we just doing Michael Mann movies or is this from any film?
I think we do everything. Okay. McCauley's number one. Yeah. He's the signal caller. Okay. Which is funny because he honestly does not live through his heist ultimately. Uh-huh. You know, so it's like he is 0-1 as far as the movies go. Is there a Doug McCrae case? Who would you rather take orders from?
Let's make a rule that you can only draft one guy from a movie.
So now we have a movie with Neil McCauley and Jem. I will make an argument. Road dog could be Rust from the Ocean's movies. Really, really good road dog. It's a good one. Maybe even more fun than Jem. Jem gets you in a lot of fights. Jem gets you in a lot of trouble.
No, I respect it more if you were able to act that well. But I feel like the assumption is that all actors are either recently quit, still secretly, or smokers.
He's not really the lead guy in den of thieves. It just gets revealed at the end that that was always Donnie.
Yeah. Let's do, let's do rust and Merriman for three and four. Hmm.
Okay, so let's lose Merriman for Chirito then.
Yeah, I was thinking maybe Buscemi from Reservoir Dogs. Oh, that's good. Yeah. That is good. Just to bring a little firecracker energy.
I'm going to go Gosling. Yeah. Can we take cops and put them in the heist? Sure. You want them to be on the wrong side of the law or you just want them chasing the thieves?
Yeah. Do we have any room for Gong Li, for Isabella to be in here? To be as like the love interest?
If I'm being completely real, it's lively. But who's lively dating out of the crew? Well, that's the fun part, is that maybe she's got something with one of the guys, but Neil's always loved her.
Belushi from Thief always had that energy, you know?
Yeah. Best Pictures. Best Picture Winners. Best Picture Winner Month.
Oh, yeah. Not Ron Livingston, but the other guy. Patrick Van Horn as Sue.
Yeah. Linklater movies are really good for that.
Because he's so good at casting. But then those people are not always like super professional.
Are there any movies that we've done, say, in 2024 that you were like, I wish we had done that earlier?
I would like to add that I would love to do the 80s action trailer voice for movies. What would be the most inappropriate use of 80s action trailer voice?
Yeah, like Remains of a Day. He's just a butler. What if... Manchester by the sea?
Cicada, yeah. Cicada? Do you know this story? No, I know cicadas. The insect.
I don't know, but it just seems like this guy wanted to show Pulp Fiction to his class.
That's right. I used to have a eighth grade history teacher who would show like movies from different historical eras than the ones that we were studying. And it was clear that he just needed a class off. He'd be like, we're doing the colonial American revolution. Let's watch Spartacus. Yeah.
Does Russillo have the highest batting average?
It's also cool for like movies that are like B plus B minus movies generally, but like for what it was doing.
You can't, you couldn't have improved it really.
Because remember, he's like, I'm sorry if the chicken got overcooked. Overcooked.
Oh, so yeah, because that's interesting. For instance, for Blair Witch, you would do basically like gas station snack banquet, like jerky, Doritos, you know, Dr. Pepper. Everything that they get out of the gas station is what you would eat during that. You'd feel like shit afterwards, though.
60% of them are also, should I be smoking during this?
I like that this dude stopped watching basketball in 2011. Yeah. You know, just like a Baca and David West. He's like a Luol Deng. Trending topics today.
I was watching Maverick again the other day and the football scene with two footballs is just like, in the movie theater, you're like, what are they doing? Even though it's basically the volleyball scene for the first one. It's so awesome. It's just such a chill hangout. I think we keep this in our back pocket.
I would just love it if Toni Collette was just like, why don't we settle this out on the court?
Evil 2B. It's the next recommendation on the algorithm award. Yeah. Next algorithmic recommendation.
It's really funny that you think Black Betty and blow is bigger than the Project X one.
Well, I'm not like following along. I have no idea where you're going with these.
I like when they recut trailers.
I often think about how this movie would be different if Curb Your Enthusiasm music was playing.
I think that Hanks would be able to kind of go in different places and riff with you and talk about... I think Hanks... Let's be honest.
Yeah, but Cruise tells incredible stories about the production of the films that he's been in.
Like, Cruise doing Eyes Wide Shut would be the greatest podcast in the history of the world. Yeah. Hank's as better as a podcaster. Like he could hang in with all of these.
You may remember it from Mission Impossible 1.
Yeah, like there's a Cruise thing where you make too many cigarette jokes and he's like, cigarettes are poison. He gets really mad at you.
Honestly, no movie that he couldn't improve marginally, so... So maybe every movie we just try to figure out what part he would have played? Yeah, like Godfather 3. Could he have been a cardinal? Why not? I really like this one.
My favorite part is Jeff Bridges turning into the dude, which I think actually happened. Yeah, you could do what should have been trending out of this movie. Like, what trend should this movie have started? Mm-hmm. Right. Should Goodfellas have started a Layla revival or something?
Pfeiffer's appeared in a lot of casting what-ifs.
I saw Andy Garcia out the other night. No way. He's like, are you the fucking asshole who does the rewatchables?
Who do we drop? Ramon Raymond and- Have we ever done Philip Baker Hall? No, we can drop him.
I think it did really well. Wasn't it like in the top 10 box office or whatever? Is that true? Yeah. Because they put it out on IMAX.
Well, I think that they've circled each other and enough projects over the course of their career. They've had like slight overlap here and there. Schindler's was a big one, right? Wasn't that the big one that Scorsese was going to direct and Spielberg took over? Yeah. Right.
I don't know. I mean, you could make the argument that it would be fascinating to see Spielberg try something like that.
Because you're basically looking at these movies and you're like, Billy Crystal's girlfriend in Running Scared. Would that have been better if it was Goldie Hawn? Yes.
That was the last one. I forgot about Halloween 4.
Really doesn't happen that often, but it's... Sometimes it happens during the pod, and it'll be like, don't Google that, don't Google that, yeah.
It's a classic. And just the new conversation alone. It would just be incredible. I saw Aliens on a date. Did you?
It's really hard because Cruise and Hanks works for super bad and it works for Howard's end.
It's also like, it's always that, this pregnant pause where it's like, should we correct it? We all look at each other. It's hard to host. I agree with you. I know.
Plus the vaccine. Yeah. Right. Pre-vaccine. The polio vaccine? Is that what you're talking about?
No, Kyle eventually. During a break, I told you.
And Kyle was nice enough not to correct me. Do you then say, I can't believe I've been saying that wrong or do you just push through?
But would you rather somebody correct you?
But Luke's in your head because there's a category named after him.
What's wrong with Lindsey Krauss and Slapshot?
Yeah. I think there's plenty of films that are better than early high school. It'd be weird if it was like 48. Right. But the movies from that like 95 to 97 era, 99 era, are the ones that I still think about the most probably because of what age I was.
What the fuck, Spider? We did Silence of the Lambs live. It was mostly as if Silence of the Lambs was a comedy.
It wouldn't be funny to be, would you rather have Sandra Bullock or Julia Roberts in Den of Thieves? Yeah, it's like, you know. All right.
But Ralph Fiennes didn't bother you. No, no. Right.
Sometimes it's not the movie's fault. Sometimes you'll be watching Running Scared and you're like, oh my God, that's Jimmy Smits.
And it seems like you would want to present like a positive.
Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. I like that. That's like Denzel Washington giving Ethan Hawke angel dust. He's like, oh, you like to get wet. Didn't know that.
Yeah, so, like, this is a little bit of a cousin of the online idea of, like, Die Hard, what if he just, like, leaves in the first five minutes?
Like, there's, like, ways in which movies could be over in 15 minutes. There's a horror film, like, what if they just moved out of the house? But if there's, like, a pivotal line that if this person had said X... What if he had said this?
Daniel Plainville is starting small forward for Indiana. And Wilford Brimley, what's his character?
That was the Luke Wilson mailbag. So basically people would write in with their Luke Wilson hottest takes.
Wow, they pulled golf. And they're going wildcat. Fourth and 18.
Yeah, so when Neil goes back for Edie, or no, goes back for Wayne Groh, even though he's clear and away free.
That's like, I'm faking a punt up nine. It's fourth and nine from the 10.
I was at the Lakers Spurs the other night and a guy shouted out from the crowd for heat. That was it. That's all he brought to the table? And that was Victor Wemby and Yama.
These are all great comments. When we finish this pod, Craig and I are going to do sort of a footnote pod about which emails we think you secretly sent. No, I did not. Bill is so handsome. When will you let him do rollerball?
I have no relationship to it. I think it should have gone in probably 70 sports, but I'm sure we'll find a spot for it. It might be the 50th anniversary. I think I had it on my schedule. What about Jimmy Conn July? Jimmy July?
Well, look, can we find three other Jimmys to put in July?
Was that on the Bill Simmons Reddit?
For he, and he's like, Neil! I sent you that thing where the backup keeper for Liverpool is a big Rewatchables fan.
How do we get him the starting job? We have to, well, I don't want him to get the starting job. Okay.
Godfather, Italian-American family goes through decades. No, that's six words. Yeah.
CR, you want to go? I mean, Cruising was the movie that I think we had teased for a really long time that we were like, would 17 people listen to this?
And then I feel like Culture met us kind of where we were, and Cruising had like a little bit of a revival.
Which is also hard because Eddie and the Cruisers is not on streaming, correct?
How is it not on TV? We've broken through that barrier before.