Victoria Devine

So, like, it worked.

You can break the ice on literally anyone by asking about dogs.

It would be illegal to delete a photo of someone's dog.

That could be like part of your business where you like print a picture of their dog for Christmas.

Let's get further into it.

I want to know, tell me a bit more about your money story and the things that you think have impacted it.

it's something that I couldn't even comprehend.

Yeah.

So side note, what did you know about the Western world when you were growing up?

Because, you know, when you said there were no Mars Mars, there were no Kit Kats, like obviously, but did you know that those things existed?

Yeah.

Wow.

My mind is spinning as you're talking.

I'm just like, wow, this is so different to the way that I grew up.

But then also just even in terms of the expectations that would have been put on you, they're so different.

not in line with this female empowerment movement that we're going through where, you know, you are now in Australia and I'm about to ask about that.

But, you know, here in Australia, women can become anything.

You can do anything.

You can be anything.

You can start a business.