Vijay Tella

It goes back to your earlier question on why we started this, right?

So we have a long background in this space.

So one thing that happened, Nathan, is when I got out of, like we were part of Skype and after I did my time and got out of there and I looked at what was happening in the world of software, what I saw was that there's just been a huge consumerization trend in the enterprise space, especially with SaaS and the cloud-based apps.

and the business users sort of driving this kind of transformation that's going on.

And what I saw was

the integration tools that were required to make all these apps work together and connect together remain complex and technical.

They kind of moved to the cloud in form, but not in the spirit of it, meaning you still needed to be like a developer or a technical guy to kind of use these integration tools.

Whereas the whole business transformation, the cloud apps are being driven by business people that

don't know what XML is or what JSON is and so on.

So the thing that we saw was we thought maybe one of the biggest gaps in enterprise software is

the ability for these non-technical business users to be able to connect all their apps and automate all their systems and large scale in a very dynamic environment.

So we saw a really big gap.

This was in 2011 and 2012.

We were looking at this whole space.

And what we saw was we needed to bring

The consumerization approach, the things that we learned at Quik and how you build and grow consumer products, that type of an approach was really very much needed in the enterprise integration space.

And so it was really bringing together our background, our longtime background in the integration space with the consumer background that made something like Workado possible.

Yeah, it was something like that.

Look, I think the other guys were like some of the rock stars and they were some of the smartest guys I've ever worked with in the integration space.

Are they still at the company?