Vika Krieger

And then I got hired by the World Economic Forum, like the Davos people, to set up a hub for them in the Bay Area focused on ethical tech, responsible tech.

So I did that for a couple of years.

And then Facebook hired me to be their first ever head of ethics, director of responsible innovation.

What was that one like?

You know, it's definitely the job title that gets the most snickers.

And when they reached out to me, like when the recruiter first reached out to me, he referred to the job as chief ethics officer at Facebook.

And I just, and I burst out laughing.

And I was like, this sounds like an Onion article.

But, you know, eventually what, and I spent a lot of time like talking to like all the people I'd be working with.

I was like, okay, like this actually sounds like it's legit.

But I love the job.

Despite all the sort of snickers of people.

And like, they're like, oh, you did a really good job.

Yeah.

I was like, yeah, okay, fair.

I didn't totally transform the business model there and zero out any harm that was being caused in the product.

But I built a 40-person team there, and we reviewed hundreds of products before they were released, actually pretty early in the product development process.

And we were able to sort of figure out or like anticipate like how might these products harm people.

And like I found the engineers and the product managers to be quite like well-meaning and being like, oh, wow, like we hadn't thought about this, right?

It's not their job to think about or it's not their mindset to think about.