Viktor Orban

And the Ukraine. What is basically, again, the problem? The Russians accepted, in a very difficult way, that Central European countries like my home, Hungary, became members of NATO. They always criticized that move. saying that it's unfair because it was promised.

Nobody knows exactly whether it did happen or not, but it was promised that the ex-Soviet Union-dominated territories will now join NATO. But we did. Good for us anyway. And the Russians started to live with that. In that concept, Ukraine was the buffer zone between NATO and Russia.

Nobody knows exactly whether it did happen or not, but it was promised that the ex-Soviet Union-dominated territories will now join NATO. But we did. Good for us anyway. And the Russians started to live with that. In that concept, Ukraine was the buffer zone between NATO and Russia.

Nobody knows exactly whether it did happen or not, but it was promised that the ex-Soviet Union-dominated territories will now join NATO. But we did. Good for us anyway. And the Russians started to live with that. In that concept, Ukraine was the buffer zone between NATO and Russia.

And then now, as we started to incorporate more and more Ukraine, first at the military level, developing their army, then even at the diplomatic level to speak about the possible membership of Ukraine to NATO, we converted the buffer zone into a war zone. So it's not anymore a buffer zone. That's the problem. And it's history. It's not about one or two decades issue.

And then now, as we started to incorporate more and more Ukraine, first at the military level, developing their army, then even at the diplomatic level to speak about the possible membership of Ukraine to NATO, we converted the buffer zone into a war zone. So it's not anymore a buffer zone. That's the problem. And it's history. It's not about one or two decades issue.

And then now, as we started to incorporate more and more Ukraine, first at the military level, developing their army, then even at the diplomatic level to speak about the possible membership of Ukraine to NATO, we converted the buffer zone into a war zone. So it's not anymore a buffer zone. That's the problem. And it's history. It's not about one or two decades issue.

So how we imagine the territory between the NATO and Russia, how we call it and how to manage it, how we provide the future for the people and the territory. So these are the real big and difficult challenges ahead of us. One big change. When we jumped into the war, that was always my argument to the Westerners that, Don't consider that war as our own war. It's not a war of the West.

So how we imagine the territory between the NATO and Russia, how we call it and how to manage it, how we provide the future for the people and the territory. So these are the real big and difficult challenges ahead of us. One big change. When we jumped into the war, that was always my argument to the Westerners that, Don't consider that war as our own war. It's not a war of the West.

So how we imagine the territory between the NATO and Russia, how we call it and how to manage it, how we provide the future for the people and the territory. So these are the real big and difficult challenges ahead of us. One big change. When we jumped into the war, that was always my argument to the Westerners that, Don't consider that war as our own war. It's not a war of the West.

It's a war between two Slavic nations, a brutal but a brotherhood war. Russians and Ukrainians, isolate them, help them, but don't say that this is our war. That's exactly what you have done. Basically, Biden president came to Warsaw and said, Putin must fail. Guys, it means that you are in the war. So why we have done it? Nobody knows the answer of that. So it was a very short-sighted idea.

It's a war between two Slavic nations, a brutal but a brotherhood war. Russians and Ukrainians, isolate them, help them, but don't say that this is our war. That's exactly what you have done. Basically, Biden president came to Warsaw and said, Putin must fail. Guys, it means that you are in the war. So why we have done it? Nobody knows the answer of that. So it was a very short-sighted idea.

It's a war between two Slavic nations, a brutal but a brotherhood war. Russians and Ukrainians, isolate them, help them, but don't say that this is our war. That's exactly what you have done. Basically, Biden president came to Warsaw and said, Putin must fail. Guys, it means that you are in the war. So why we have done it? Nobody knows the answer of that. So it was a very short-sighted idea.

Probably they thought that they could weaken Russia. I was always sure at the very first moment that a war will make Russia stronger than it was prior to the war. That's our history. First World War, Second World War. When they start the war, they are weaker. As the war is going ahead, they are getting stronger and stronger and stronger.

Probably they thought that they could weaken Russia. I was always sure at the very first moment that a war will make Russia stronger than it was prior to the war. That's our history. First World War, Second World War. When they start the war, they are weaker. As the war is going ahead, they are getting stronger and stronger and stronger.

Probably they thought that they could weaken Russia. I was always sure at the very first moment that a war will make Russia stronger than it was prior to the war. That's our history. First World War, Second World War. When they start the war, they are weaker. As the war is going ahead, they are getting stronger and stronger and stronger.

I think two reasons. One is that they have an interpretation of the Second World War. that Russia was able to win against Germany just because the Anglo-Saxons supported them. That's first. Second, you know... May I ask you to pause? And you don't believe that's true? I think to a certain extent it was true.

I think two reasons. One is that they have an interpretation of the Second World War. that Russia was able to win against Germany just because the Anglo-Saxons supported them. That's first. Second, you know... May I ask you to pause? And you don't believe that's true? I think to a certain extent it was true.

I think two reasons. One is that they have an interpretation of the Second World War. that Russia was able to win against Germany just because the Anglo-Saxons supported them. That's first. Second, you know... May I ask you to pause? And you don't believe that's true? I think to a certain extent it was true.

So a lot of support came from the United States, especially to Russia, especially ammunition, weapons, and so on. So I can't say that that was the precondition. I don't underestimate the heroic attempts of the Russians to defend their own land, even against the Hungarians anyway, because we were on the other side. But it's true that the alliance with the West