Hungary Prime Minister Viktor Orban on USAID, Trump, Immigration, NATO, and the Russia/Ukraine War
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How has Viktor Orban's leadership been vindicated?
I will introduce our next guest, who is the longest serving leader in Europe by far. And he is someone that I interviewed several years ago for the first time. He is, of course, the prime minister of Hungary, Viktor Orban. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister. And I was just thinking back when I worked at a giant publicly traded news company and interviewed you for the first time. You're a democratically elected leader of a European nation and it was considered controversial to interview you because your ideas were considered eccentric and they included emphasis on the middle class and families. They included above all secure borders, serving your citizens before you serve foreigners. And that was all considered super radical and dangerous.
And I wonder if you feel vindicated years later by watching what happened to the rest of Europe when they didn't follow those simple ideas.
So now we lost all the real attraction, what we have done previously, and Donald Trump take away all the attraction of the international politics. We have done something for 15 years in Hungary, in headwind, liberal headwind, stopping migration, defending traditional values, respecting religious communities, no Green Deal, low taxation. So everything which is unorthodox in the mind of the liberals. So we were a kind of hero. We were a kind of island of difference in the liberal ocean. But now, unfortunately... Donald Trump taking over everything. So, yeah, just sitting and try to follow him now. This is a totally new reality. And that's, may I say, very much helpful to Hungary because, you know, I try to make some jokes on how the last 15 years was, but it was serious. So when you have one boot from United States on your chest and one from Brussels, European Union, trying to kill you and to deliver evidences that that way of government and governance cannot work, it's difficult to survive.
Why is USAID's influence in Hungary controversial?
So now we remember back in a happy way, but that was very serious. So now at least one boost is out. The Americans not anymore on our chest, not kneeling on our chest. So it's an appeasement. So we think that life is happy and it will be even happier when we swept away the Brazilian bureaucrats and the other boost is down. That's the plan.
I remember one of your advisors telling me years ago, whispering to me at dinner that the US government, the State Department and agencies like USAID were working against you, funding your opposition indirectly and really trying to subvert democracy in your country and thinking, boys, can that be true? It turns out now it is true. And I wonder when the rest of us are going to get details on what exactly the State Department did to end democracy in Hungary.
So first of all, I think those who love conspiracy theories are in trouble. They have to find new ones because the old one proved to be true. So that's the first probably. It's a massive problem in the United States. The second is that... You know, it's a taxpayer money.
Yes.
So if you take it, this whole thing, not as a political one, but rather as a moral issue. The fact is that the liberal elite of the West used the taxpayers' money of United States citizens to spread their ideology all around the world. And financed in Hungary more than 60 NGOs, paid politicians, media outlets, you know. So it was a... It was a plot against our sovereignty and independence. Sorry, made by you. I know. Sorry. But this is the case. And the same has happened from the Brazilian budget, which is even more scandalous, may I say, because we pay the money in the Brazilian budget and they finance our enemies at home. So what's going on? So this is the liberal deep state, the global liberal deep state. And now we see how it has operated. It raises a deep question of motive.
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Chapters
6 chapters
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How has Viktor Orban's leadership been vindicated?
0:30–2:49
2
Why is USAID's influence in Hungary controversial?
2:49–5:02
3
What is George Soros' impact on Western societies?
5:02–11:29
4
Has mass migration benefited Europe?
11:29–21:56
5
What challenges does the German economy face?
21:56–29:12
6
Why is the Nord Stream incident ignored?
29:12–1:02:14
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