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Vinay Prasad

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Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And you say, in the best case scenario, do you have still problems?

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And you can see you're going to have a significant number of people who are in the false positive and the false negative group.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And in fact, they cancel each other out.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Well, it doesn't matter if you're using it for random sampling.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

That's what I was trying to get to.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

If you work in a research study and you want to work out how many people you think have got the disease, you can factor in that effect.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

But if you want to give people advice and say, oh, by the way, you've got antibodies and you're definitely protected, you have a problem with that result because actually 30% of the time you're not going to be protected.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And I'm picking my words carefully here because I'm sort of thieving at the edges here.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

I thought they were numbered on the basis it was a sort of blinding issue, which makes complete sense.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

But the idea with signing up to studies and producing evidence on pieces of kit that you can't actually name the kit and what it is, is just not on.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And what it shows is a complete loophole in the device industry, in the approval of devices, and the complete mess that is diagnostics, but also medical devices across the board.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Yes, there is no central database for devices and technologies.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

There's supposed to be one called Udamed.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And believe it or not, it's supposed to be fully functioning next month in May.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

and about and somebody will correct me here it's supposed to be fully functioning on the 21st 22nd of may but in the new regulations it says if it's not fully functioning by that date he can revert back to the old regulations and push it back therefore there is no single database of devices that's going to appear anytime soon and

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

If this wasn't so serious, it would be a joke.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

But it is really serious.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And I think we need a rewriting of the whole script here.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Because you cannot have a situation where you try all technologies, drugs, and you keep what it is hidden.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Because what happens if that's shown to be harmful?