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Vinay Prasad

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

We assume in, we go to London and we assume 5% of the population has been infected.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So we take a thousand people.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Out of a thousand people, 50 people will have the disease.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Yeah, happy with that?

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

950 will not.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So the sensitivity is 70%.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So sensitivity means that of the people with the disease, 70% will test positive.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So of the 50 people with the disease, 35 will test positive and have the disease and 15 will test positive and not have the disease.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So that's your first problem of the 50.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Then you've got your other group.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Remember, you've then got 950 people who do not have the disease.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And what we said is the specificity is 98%.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And specificity means the proportion of people without the disease who test negative.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

what i'm interested in is the proportion of people without the disease who test positive and that's two percent okay why are you interested in that because we're interested really here in the false positives though those who think they've got an antibody but actually they haven't and they're going around saying i've got antibodies but you haven't so of the 950 people without the disease yeah two percent of them will test positive

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So 19 people will be false positives in every 1,000 you test.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

When you're at low prevalences, you need tests that are up in the 99% sensitivity and 99% specificity.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

In fact, in this case, if you want to be certain, you need to have perfect sensitivity and specificity.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

That's very difficult to get.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

That's the best case scenario of all the tests in effect.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And that's what you try and do here.