Vince Chan
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first heard Nov 2024
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They can take inspiration from your approach, how to raise future-ready humans, not just in terms of careers, but as responsible, creative, value-added adults who contribute to their community, to the world. This could be a really great conversation for next time. I love it.
And that's where I'll leave you. We've tackled everything from future thinking to eliminating workplace chaos. And why simplicity isn't just a strategy, it's a survival skill. The real question now is, what's one thing you can stop doing today that will make room for something better? Think about it. Big thanks to Lisa for sharing her intelligence and insights.
Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Until next time, take care.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist humility for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today, we're talking about the future of work, innovation, and why most companies make change way harder than it needs to be.
My guest is Lisa Burdell, the top 40 global speaker on simplification, innovation, and change, as well as the CEO of FutureThink. She's helped companies like Google and Pfizer cut through the clutter, kill pointless rules, and actually get things done. In this two-part series, we'll dive into her journey, how she went from advertising to futurism, why most organizations resist change,
and how simplicity is the secret weapon for real innovation. We'll also unpack why AI won't replace human skills, but overcomplicated systems just might. If you've ever sat in a meeting thinking this could have been an email, you won't want to miss this one. Let's get started. Lisa, good morning to you. Welcome to Chief Change Officer. I'm so excited to host you.
Sure, Lisa. You've done a lot and you are still doing a lot. through FutureThink, the platform you started 20 years ago. That was before the iPhone, before AI became mainstream. Yet, you were already thinking ahead, already focused on the future. Now, 20 years is a long journey, and I know we can't cover everything in just one conversation. So let's focus on the key moments.
Let's start with your story. Before FutureThink, what led you to this? What triggered you to start it? Maybe a bit of your background, both personal and career. And then how FutureThink has evolved over the last two decades. Let's start there.
Wow. So in your own career, you started in the corporate world and then transitioned out. And this was way before coaching, entrepreneurship, and tech startups became mainstreamed. You've been in the consulting and coaching space for a long time. Looking back, how would you describe your own evolution? Would you call it reinvention?
When you made the move, stepping out of that safety net into solo entrepreneurship, what was that experience like?
You started this journey way ahead of the curve before it was the norm. And it must have been scary. It was definitely risky. Were there moments when you thought, maybe I should just go back to corporate America? Did you ever question your decision?
Earlier, you mentioned learning about futurism, how you got inspired by someone in the field, study it, and eventually step into that role yourself. Now you are helping organizations navigate their future. Before we dive into organizational change, I want to ask more about your journey.
When you took that leap of faith, when you left behind the old path to create a new future for yourself, did you already have a clear vision? Did you see exactly where you were heading? Did you know, this is it, this is my future, these are the steps I need to take? Or were you still figuring things out, navigating as you went?
As you were explaining, I kept thinking about decision trees. I studied finance. And back in business school, we actually covered this in a class that connected economics with strategy. Professors taught us about decision trees. And if you go deep into the math, you get into multi-color simulations, big data, and statistical models. But stepping away from the numbers, the idea still applies.
Different scenarios lead to different risks, different uncertainties, and different possible paths. And from what you've shared so far, futurists help people Master change, not just react to it, but own it, master it, and drive it. Over the last 10 years, the term futurist has become much more common. A lot of people now call themselves one.
So basically, what you're saying is that futurism is both a science and an art. It's packed by models, data, and research, but at the same time, is shaped by real-life experience. When you work with clients, it's not just about the numbers. You can actually guide them on what to do, what not to do, what risks to watch for and where the real opportunities are.
Last time, I spoke with a guest who has worked with companies like Microsoft and Amazon, helping them with communication, marketing, and narrative. Now he has his own practice. Basically, you could call him a storyteller. So I asked him, Hey Chris, everybody calls themselves a storyteller these days. What do you think? And of course, he has his own take.
In fact, he calls himself a strategic narrative advisor. because he still works with executives and companies, but wanted a title that better reflects what he actually does. Storytelling is one of those terms that gets thrown around a lot, maybe even overused, and I feel like futurist is the same way. That's why I wanted to ask about your interpretation what futurist truly means to you.
You own it, you run future think and this is the work you do. I checked out the website and you got a huge range of courses, training organizations and teams to drive change, innovate and adapt. But one theme that keeps coming up is simplicity. It's something you clearly champion. So let's talk about that. On an organizational level, what does simplicity mean to you?
And why is this so important in driving real change?
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