Vince Chan

But everything changed when she moved to Silicon Valley. Instead of politics, power, and division, she discovered a culture built on collaboration, innovation, and risk-taking. That shift led her to build six companies, write multiple best-selling books, and now co-found the Work3 Institute, helping businesses navigate the future of work. We're featuring Debra in a two-part series.

But everything changed when she moved to Silicon Valley. Instead of politics, power, and division, she discovered a culture built on collaboration, innovation, and risk-taking. That shift led her to build six companies, write multiple best-selling books, and now co-found the Work3 Institute, helping businesses navigate the future of work. We're featuring Debra in a two-part series.

In part one, we explore her incredible journey from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to securing venture capital through a chance encounter at a Starbucks. She shares how risk-taking, adaptability, and breaking the old rules shaped her success. Then in part two, we tackle the future of employment. Why degrees aren't what they used to be? How AI and Web3 are reshaping jobs?

In part one, we explore her incredible journey from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to securing venture capital through a chance encounter at a Starbucks. She shares how risk-taking, adaptability, and breaking the old rules shaped her success. Then in part two, we tackle the future of employment. Why degrees aren't what they used to be? How AI and Web3 are reshaping jobs?

And what companies must do before it's too late? And of course, we'll answer the big question. Is employment really dead? Get ready for bold, eye-opening conversation. Let's jump in. Good morning, Deborah. Welcome to our show. You are the first interview I conduct in the new year. Thank you so much for your time.

And what companies must do before it's too late? And of course, we'll answer the big question. Is employment really dead? Get ready for bold, eye-opening conversation. Let's jump in. Good morning, Deborah. Welcome to our show. You are the first interview I conduct in the new year. Thank you so much for your time.

You've had such an incredible journey from Washington, D.C. politics to Silicon Valley startups. from entrepreneurship to authoring multiple books, building six companies, and now shaping the future of work. Looking back, do you see a common thread that ties all these transitions together?

You've had such an incredible journey from Washington, D.C. politics to Silicon Valley startups. from entrepreneurship to authoring multiple books, building six companies, and now shaping the future of work. Looking back, do you see a common thread that ties all these transitions together?

It sounds like you're someone who's highly observant, sensitive to your environment, and deeply aware of the trends around you. You mentioned your background in journalism, talking to all kinds of people, reading situations, and understanding patterns. That skill set seems to carry over into how you approach opportunities. You spot gaps, see what's missing, and then take action.

It sounds like you're someone who's highly observant, sensitive to your environment, and deeply aware of the trends around you. You mentioned your background in journalism, talking to all kinds of people, reading situations, and understanding patterns. That skill set seems to carry over into how you approach opportunities. You spot gaps, see what's missing, and then take action.

Whether that's building something from scratch, teaming up with others, or investing in solutions that address those needs. So in a way, your entrepreneurial mindset isn't about business. It's about identifying what needs to be solved and turning that into action, a product, or even a business model. Would you say that's a fair summary?

Whether that's building something from scratch, teaming up with others, or investing in solutions that address those needs. So in a way, your entrepreneurial mindset isn't about business. It's about identifying what needs to be solved and turning that into action, a product, or even a business model. Would you say that's a fair summary?

You've built and been involved in multiple ventures, which means you've experienced both the highs and the lows, the wins, the setbacks, and everything in between. Looking back, is there a particular failure or challenge that stands out? Something that, despite all your success, really tested you? Maybe at the time, it was frustrating or even painful.

You've built and been involved in multiple ventures, which means you've experienced both the highs and the lows, the wins, the setbacks, and everything in between. Looking back, is there a particular failure or challenge that stands out? Something that, despite all your success, really tested you? Maybe at the time, it was frustrating or even painful.

But in hindsight, it became a lesson you carry with you, something that shaped how you move forward. You've rebounded, you're stronger, you're energized. But is there a moment that, while tough, still holds deep meaning for you?

But in hindsight, it became a lesson you carry with you, something that shaped how you move forward. You've rebounded, you're stronger, you're energized. But is there a moment that, while tough, still holds deep meaning for you?

You've been engaged in a lot of interesting endeavors. The current project is Work3 Institute, which you co-founded with George. Leading to this book, Employment is Dead. What was the motivation behind starting the institute? What was the driving force that led you to create it? I guess this goes back to the why. What inspired you to take this path?

You've been engaged in a lot of interesting endeavors. The current project is Work3 Institute, which you co-founded with George. Leading to this book, Employment is Dead. What was the motivation behind starting the institute? What was the driving force that led you to create it? I guess this goes back to the why. What inspired you to take this path?

While the title is Employment is Dead, if I'm hearing you correctly, this book is really a message to employers, almost a wake-up call With all the new technologies happening, the traditional value chain of employment is being disrupted, whether companies like it or not. And if they don't adapt, they risk losing their best people, whether to solo partnership, competitors, or simply disengagement.

While the title is Employment is Dead, if I'm hearing you correctly, this book is really a message to employers, almost a wake-up call With all the new technologies happening, the traditional value chain of employment is being disrupted, whether companies like it or not. And if they don't adapt, they risk losing their best people, whether to solo partnership, competitors, or simply disengagement.