Vince Chan

Is that the core message you're trying to get across? And is this the primary audience you are speaking to?

Is that the core message you're trying to get across? And is this the primary audience you are speaking to?

Sure. Now, I noticed the book includes a story about how you and George met. Two people from different backgrounds who, according to the book, hadn't even met before. Yet somehow, this collaboration just clicked. From your perspective, what was the spark? What made you think, hey, this is someone I need to work with?

Sure. Now, I noticed the book includes a story about how you and George met. Two people from different backgrounds who, according to the book, hadn't even met before. Yet somehow, this collaboration just clicked. From your perspective, what was the spark? What made you think, hey, this is someone I need to work with?

I imagine there are similarities that made the collaboration work, but also key differences in your backgrounds and experiences that add unique perspectives. Can you share a bit about that, what you each contribute, and how those differences shape the work you're doing together as a partnership?

I imagine there are similarities that made the collaboration work, but also key differences in your backgrounds and experiences that add unique perspectives. Can you share a bit about that, what you each contribute, and how those differences shape the work you're doing together as a partnership?

I had the privilege of reading through the book before it was published. Now, I'll be honest, I skimmed through a lot of it. Certain chapters really stood out to me, especially the one on credentials. Before starting my podcast, especially before COVID, I was deeply involved in the learning and education technology space.

I had the privilege of reading through the book before it was published. Now, I'll be honest, I skimmed through a lot of it. Certain chapters really stood out to me, especially the one on credentials. Before starting my podcast, especially before COVID, I was deeply involved in the learning and education technology space.

I was speaking at conferences around the world on the future of work, including South by Southwest. So when you covered credentials, education, and training, that chapter really caught my attention. Now, looking at one of the quotes from that chapter, he wrote, getting more employers to rethink their degree requirements will take hard work.

I was speaking at conferences around the world on the future of work, including South by Southwest. So when you covered credentials, education, and training, that chapter really caught my attention. Now, looking at one of the quotes from that chapter, he wrote, getting more employers to rethink their degree requirements will take hard work.

Employees have grown up in a system where the four-year degree is the proxy, and that's a perception that is risky to do things differently. I completely agree. But the big question is, how do we actually change that mindset? What's your take on making this shit happen?

Employees have grown up in a system where the four-year degree is the proxy, and that's a perception that is risky to do things differently. I completely agree. But the big question is, how do we actually change that mindset? What's your take on making this shit happen?

That's a wrap for today. We've covered Deborah's incredible journey from DC politics to Silicon Valley startups. and why the old way of working just doesn't cut it anymore. But we're just getting started. In part two, we'll break down the real shift happening in the workforce, why college degrees are losing the grip, and how AI and Web3 are reshaping jobs.

That's a wrap for today. We've covered Deborah's incredible journey from DC politics to Silicon Valley startups. and why the old way of working just doesn't cut it anymore. But we're just getting started. In part two, we'll break down the real shift happening in the workforce, why college degrees are losing the grip, and how AI and Web3 are reshaping jobs.

and what companies must do before it's too late. Plus, we'll tackle the big question. Is employment really dead or just evolving? Don't miss it. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host.

and what companies must do before it's too late. Plus, we'll tackle the big question. Is employment really dead or just evolving? Don't miss it. Thank you so much for joining us today. If you like what you heard, Don't forget, subscribe to our show, leave us top-rated reviews, check out our website, and follow me on social media. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host.

Until next time, take care.

Until next time, take care.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist humility for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today, we are diving into the future of work with George Dream. George is a Harvard MBA, a startup founder, and the co-author of the book called Employment is Dead.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist humility for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today, we are diving into the future of work with George Dream. George is a Harvard MBA, a startup founder, and the co-author of the book called Employment is Dead.