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Vince Chan

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Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

I know it depends on the company, but if you had to pick a key entry point from your roadmap, what would be a strong starting place for any organization looking to make a meaningful shift?

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

I know it depends on the company, but if you had to pick a key entry point from your roadmap, what would be a strong starting place for any organization looking to make a meaningful shift?

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

One thing I want to add to that, when you talk about why there are 600 people reporting to you and why organizations have six layers of hierarchy, at the end of the day, all comes down to politics and power, and of course, money. More layers mean more justification for higher salaries at the top. That's just how economic incentives, power, and corporate structures work.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

One thing I want to add to that, when you talk about why there are 600 people reporting to you and why organizations have six layers of hierarchy, at the end of the day, all comes down to politics and power, and of course, money. More layers mean more justification for higher salaries at the top. That's just how economic incentives, power, and corporate structures work.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

But that's a whole other discussion, one that goes beyond technology, yet still shapes the way employment functions today. Even as the world changes, traditional employment structures are still deeply entrenched, especially for my generation. And even for yours, despite being younger, business schools and corporate environments still reinforce many of these same structures.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

But that's a whole other discussion, one that goes beyond technology, yet still shapes the way employment functions today. Even as the world changes, traditional employment structures are still deeply entrenched, especially for my generation. And even for yours, despite being younger, business schools and corporate environments still reinforce many of these same structures.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

Now, employment isn't disappearing, but its function, nature, and diversity are evolving. The depth and breadth of work are shifting, and that's where technology plays a huge role. So as a closing thought, Josh, you've been a strong advocate for integrating emerging technologies into the workplace. What do you see as the consequences for employers who don't adapt?

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

Now, employment isn't disappearing, but its function, nature, and diversity are evolving. The depth and breadth of work are shifting, and that's where technology plays a huge role. So as a closing thought, Josh, you've been a strong advocate for integrating emerging technologies into the workplace. What do you see as the consequences for employers who don't adapt?

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

For those who aren't paying attention, who aren't taking steps to evolve how they manage, recruit, and lead, what risks do they face? I'd love to hear your take as the final message to the world on this show.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

For those who aren't paying attention, who aren't taking steps to evolve how they manage, recruit, and lead, what risks do they face? I'd love to hear your take as the final message to the world on this show.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

One thing I want to add, I am Gen X. That's the generation between baby boomers and millennials. Older than Gen Z, but still young and energetic. We are the first who transitioned from an analog world to a digital world. I remember learning how to use a calculator, then moving on to Lotus before Microsoft Excel even existed. When I was at Yale for business school, Google was just becoming a thing.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

One thing I want to add, I am Gen X. That's the generation between baby boomers and millennials. Older than Gen Z, but still young and energetic. We are the first who transitioned from an analog world to a digital world. I remember learning how to use a calculator, then moving on to Lotus before Microsoft Excel even existed. When I was at Yale for business school, Google was just becoming a thing.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

I'm 51 now, turning 52 in a week. So I've experienced firsthand how technology has evolved, and so have many in my generation. And that brings me to your point about organizations, not just surviving, but thriving. We are in a time where the workforce is more intergenerational than ever. different age groups, different levels of exposure to technology. Some grew up with it.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

I'm 51 now, turning 52 in a week. So I've experienced firsthand how technology has evolved, and so have many in my generation. And that brings me to your point about organizations, not just surviving, but thriving. We are in a time where the workforce is more intergenerational than ever. different age groups, different levels of exposure to technology. Some grew up with it.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

Others had to adapt along the way. The question is, how do we make the most of this? How do we create a more inclusive environment that maximizes talent, skills, and purpose? Because in the end, that's what drives business results. That's what fuels performance.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

Others had to adapt along the way. The question is, how do we make the most of this? How do we create a more inclusive environment that maximizes talent, skills, and purpose? Because in the end, that's what drives business results. That's what fuels performance.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

And for organizations that don't embrace this shift, if they stay rigid, resistant, or unwilling to evolve, they are setting themselves up for negative consequences. So that's my advice. Stay open, stay flexible, and recognize that the workforce is changing because those who don't will be left behind.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

And for organizations that don't embrace this shift, if they stay rigid, resistant, or unwilling to evolve, they are setting themselves up for negative consequences. So that's my advice. Stay open, stay flexible, and recognize that the workforce is changing because those who don't will be left behind.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

Thank you. And that's a wrap on this series. We've torn down outdated employment models, explored the rise of Web3 and AI, and tackled how businesses must evolve to keep up. The question now is, will companies adapt or get left behind? The future of work isn't coming. It's already here. If you're ready to stay ahead, now is the time to act. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Chief Change Officer
#382 Josh Drean: Employment Is Dead—Now Let’s Rebuild It — Part Three

Thank you. And that's a wrap on this series. We've torn down outdated employment models, explored the rise of Web3 and AI, and tackled how businesses must evolve to keep up. The question now is, will companies adapt or get left behind? The future of work isn't coming. It's already here. If you're ready to stay ahead, now is the time to act. Thank you so much for joining us today.