Vincent Cunningham

For a long time now, Steve Bannon has been talking about the importance of flooding the zone to cause a kind of blitz of news and orders and activity from the White House with the idea that the media would never be able to focus their attention. I have to say, that seems to be working out just fine for Donald Trump, at the moment at least.

For a long time now, Steve Bannon has been talking about the importance of flooding the zone to cause a kind of blitz of news and orders and activity from the White House with the idea that the media would never be able to focus their attention. I have to say, that seems to be working out just fine for Donald Trump, at the moment at least.

For a long time now, Steve Bannon has been talking about the importance of flooding the zone to cause a kind of blitz of news and orders and activity from the White House with the idea that the media would never be able to focus their attention. I have to say, that seems to be working out just fine for Donald Trump, at the moment at least.

And you're the first person today to mention Frank the Animal Fletcher to me.

And you're the first person today to mention Frank the Animal Fletcher to me.

And you're the first person today to mention Frank the Animal Fletcher to me.

You're saying a 78-year-old president can't keep it up forever. Yeah.

You're saying a 78-year-old president can't keep it up forever. Yeah.

You're saying a 78-year-old president can't keep it up forever. Yeah.

I think there's an awareness among Trump's people that that's absolutely the case. But in many presidencies, the first burst of activity, the first hundred days, certainly the first two years before the midterms, is what's most crucial in getting things done. So a lot of activity can register as accomplishment for him very quickly. That's true.

I think there's an awareness among Trump's people that that's absolutely the case. But in many presidencies, the first burst of activity, the first hundred days, certainly the first two years before the midterms, is what's most crucial in getting things done. So a lot of activity can register as accomplishment for him very quickly. That's true.

I think there's an awareness among Trump's people that that's absolutely the case. But in many presidencies, the first burst of activity, the first hundred days, certainly the first two years before the midterms, is what's most crucial in getting things done. So a lot of activity can register as accomplishment for him very quickly. That's true.

You mentioned McCarthyism earlier, and you're a scholar of the Cold War, among other things. What are the similarities that you see between the Red Scare, the anti-communist campaign of the 50s, and what we're seeing now with DEI?

You mentioned McCarthyism earlier, and you're a scholar of the Cold War, among other things. What are the similarities that you see between the Red Scare, the anti-communist campaign of the 50s, and what we're seeing now with DEI?

You mentioned McCarthyism earlier, and you're a scholar of the Cold War, among other things. What are the similarities that you see between the Red Scare, the anti-communist campaign of the 50s, and what we're seeing now with DEI?

You'll let me know when he does. Jelani Cobb, I appreciate your time. Be well.

You'll let me know when he does. Jelani Cobb, I appreciate your time. Be well.

You'll let me know when he does. Jelani Cobb, I appreciate your time. Be well.

You can read Jelani Cobb on politics, race, and much more at newyorker.com and at the very same website on the eve of our 100th anniversary. You can subscribe to the magazine there, too. I'm David Remnick. That's our show for today. Thanks for joining us. See you next time.

You can read Jelani Cobb on politics, race, and much more at newyorker.com and at the very same website on the eve of our 100th anniversary. You can subscribe to the magazine there, too. I'm David Remnick. That's our show for today. Thanks for joining us. See you next time.