Vivek Ramaswamy

So I want to separate I want to separate two important in different themes here, okay This is really important to hear it from from me.

It's very personal to me for a reason when I ran for president With that we'll stick to Nora's question for now so when I ran for president I was the only Republican on that stage

who actually said that in the long run, I think it was in the best interest of the United States, and for what it's worth, in the best interest of Israel, but I'm looking after the interest of the United States, to say that $3.8 billion a year, it should be sunset.

That's what I said.

And I took a lot of heat for that when I ran for president.

So that's one thing.

That's one thing.

Complete.

If I did not also answer a second dimension to this question, which is that I do think it is strange as the person who stood alone on the Republican debate stage and took criticism from people on both sides of me.

And this hurt me in my presidential run.

I will say this.

It is beyond bizarre to me.

the fixation on that $3.8 billion of the federal budget when you look at the extent of far more inexcusable waste, fraud, abuse in a lot of different directions.

Foreign aid to hundreds of other countries that we also should not be supporting.

Which raises a deeper question of what the heck is going on with this particular line item and that obsession.

think it's just about saying how many more American lives we could have improved with that $3.8 billion, because you could be talking about $3 trillion that we could be recapturing and recovering from wind subsidies to third world country foreign aid that's actually a lot of which is corrupt.

So I'll tell you what I do think underlies it.

I think it's this mentality that somehow it is a mindset that

One country in the world and U.S.

relationship with it, or particularly even let's just talk about it.