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The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 2419 - VP Vows Action On DW Investigation

05 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What shocking Medicaid fraud allegations are being reported in Ohio?

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Today, more shocking reports of alleged fraud in Ohio. As you know, yesterday on this show, we reported on the massive alleged fraud plaguing Ohio's Medicaid program. Our investigative team here at Daily Wire has uncovered shocking facts surrounding that alleged fraud. What appear to be hundreds of shell companies bilking taxpayers out of perhaps billions of dollars.

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And the vice president of the United States has already vowed to track it all down. We'll also be talking with Vaibh Ramaswamy, the likely next governor of Ohio, about what he can do to stop all of that. We'll also get to the Met Gala, the nation's most annoying display of obnoxious wealth from people who proclaim that they hate their own wealth.

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Plus, the latest in Iran, where we could be just days away from more kinetic action. And Christopher Nolan has a new Odyssey trailer, which I'm going to watch. Busy show coming up. This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

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So yesterday, based on our investigation in Ohio, the vice president of the United States put out a tweet pledging that he would look into what was going on, quote, the shocking allegations, if true, show why the fraud's task force work is so important.

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I'm directing the task force to look into it and take immediate action to prosecute any fraudsters involved and stop all further payments as appropriate. So we are already getting action here at Daily Wire. This is why we exist, not just to bring you things that entertain you, but obviously to change the world in better ways.

Chapter 2: How is Vivek Ramaswamy addressing Medicaid fraud in Ohio?

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Luke Rosiak, who is our senior investigative reporter over here, he has the second part of his large-scale investigative series today, talking about the extent of Medicaid fraud in Ohio. He points out that there are seven buildings along East Dublin, Granville Road in Columbus, Ohio, that are filled with hundreds of office suites, all owned by a company called Cordova Real Estate.

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Almost every tenant in the building bills Medicaid. So, basically... Seems very much like what Nick Shirley was uncovering in Minnesota. Essentially, we have these gigantic buildings that are filled with home health care providers, completely empty of people, because we actually have video of Luke walking through the halls here.

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Here is Luke walking through the halls in an empty office building in Ohio that presumably millions of dollars are flooding through.

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Notice that you guys have gotten $10 million in Medicaid. What exactly goes into a home health care business?

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Again, the accusations of racism, him walking through full on empty buildings. Apparently, one Cordoba Road employee said that the government actually pays people to take care of their own families. This, of course, is the scam, according to Luke's reporting. The Cordoba-owned buildings in Columbus house 288 businesses registered with Medicaid.

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Together, they charge taxpayers more than a quarter of a billion dollars between 2018 and 2024 in a city where there are only about 6,200 people who are 75 or older on Medicaid. Apparently, at one address, there are 80 companies that collectively billed at least $73 million to Medicaid and received $23 million from the state of Ohio.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Met Gala's ostentatious displays of wealth?

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Again, shocking levels of what appear to be alleged fraud. And again, here is Luke talking to one of the employees at Cordoba Road who admits the government basically pays you to take care of your own family.

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In the Cordoba office building at 1425 East Dublin, Granville Road, we finally located a business suite with somebody in it, GC Home Healthcare, LLC. Asked how he recruits employees, he said employees and patients come as a package. 70% of the employees are just being paid to spend time with their own family members.

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The patients, like, they... After getting a note from the doctor vouching for the elder's need for personal services.

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The family member of an elderly person isn't set up to bill Medicaid, so a company stands in the middle.

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You know, they pay us, and then we pay them, and they're ours.

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He said the number of hours depends on a doctor's recommendation, but it's often an hour a day.

Chapter 4: What recent developments are occurring in Iran related to U.S. military actions?

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Like, do you expect them to take time off of work just to take care of the roads? I mean, there has to be some sort of benefit.

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I asked him why people wouldn't simply help their aging parents with basic tasks out of human decency.

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Well, the government didn't pay you to do it. I mean, people see that as through projects, so, you know, they just jump on in.

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Again, unbelievable stuff. Are you as a taxpayer willing to subsidize people to take care of their own aging parents? This is crazy towns. It's crazy. Luke reports that there is one home health care service called Omega, which charged taxpayers $11 million between December 2017 and October 2024.

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Chapter 5: How are investigative reports influencing political actions in Ohio?

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Omega was incorporated in 2011 by a person named Mohamed Jama, a Democratic politician. Jama founded a newspaper called the Somali Post, also a Somali coffee house, and has been affiliated with the Somali Education Resource Center, which received $6 million in federal aid in 2023, all on top of raising nine kids and working as an engineer.

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When he ran for state Senate as a Democrat in 2024, that home healthcare business was not even mentioned in his profile. So, you know, it's great. We also get to, as taxpayers, subsidize people running for the state legislature as they clear millions of dollars in cash. Joining us on the line, the man who broke this story, Luke Rosiak, is a senior investigative reporter at The Daily Wire.

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You can follow him on X at Luke Rosiak. He's great. Follow Luke. Thanks for taking the time. Really appreciate it. Thanks for having me, Ben. So the story has already had a gigantic impact locally. Federally, the VP is committing to an investigation. What are the reactions that you've got your eye on to your explosive expose here?

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Chapter 6: What insights does Luke Rosiak provide about Medicaid fraud investigations?

368.739 - 385.442 Luke Rosiak

Yeah, it's funny. I mean, we just kind of laid out the bare bones of what we had. Part two just dropped and we've got a number of actual details going. But J.D. Vance, right from the beginning, said that the task force that he's helming with Andrew Ferguson, who's a very competent lawyer, is going to be descending upon

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385.422 - 414.72 Luke Rosiak

ohio there's been a number of other reactions in the senate including from the chairman of the aging committee and so on um but you know at the center of this is the medicaid waiver program for home health care and in particular what they call personal services which is what i'm calling butlers for somalis um medicaid is supposed to be for medical stuff and personal services is just like butlers there's people that go there to help you with whatever you need you could cook you can clean

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um even just conversation and companionship and so you know i just got back from columbus and you you can walk through these buildings and there's a whole street of them and you go inside these buildings and there's like hundreds of the small businesses nobody's in almost any of them and they'll have signs that just say that that's the service they provide is companionship and conversation

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And so that's kind of the question that's for fraud investigators. I think there's a lot of leads that we're going to be providing to them and people are going to see in the stories we have rolling out, including today.

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But there's also the question of lowercase f fraud, which is some of this may well be legal and it may well be very poor policy decisions that our leaders have made that allow people to.

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bill for hanging out with their family members or hanging out going to somebody's house to provide them with this this um companionship or cleaning their house in a way that's totally unverifiable and so i think there are both fraud

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uh questions uh and i think if jd vance's task force finds that they can't prove with uh the standard that would be required in a court of law um then you get to the question of do we just have to get rid of these programs because maybe we had programs that used to work um in a time when americans could be relied on to to be honest uh that kind of break down in situations where you import uh people from low trust societies

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So Luke, take us back to the beginning of the story. How did you first uncover this level of fraud? And what was it like walking through these empty buildings that supposedly hundreds of millions of dollars are being funneled through for home healthcare?

Chapter 7: What are the potential consequences of the Medicaid fraud findings?

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yeah so doge back in february released um doge working with hhs a database of medicaid spending to what companies are getting paid by medicaid and i've been trying to get that for many years because when you look at that pie chart of the federal budget so much of it is in medicaid to the point where a lot of liberals kind of mocked doge saying there's nothing to even cut unless you're going to go for the non-discretionary stuff

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And so when we can actually see what Medicaid is going to, and then we find out that it's actually not just all like untouchable, like doctor's visits, it's like very much fair game for those that want to make the government more efficient. I think that's a huge, um, potential for kind of saving our country. And it's a huge win for transparency that they did that. So I did my computer thing.

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I've been doing data analysis for a long time and I had my computer run queries that told me where the really sketchy stuff was. And it took me right to a red state.

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ohio columbus and the northeast sector of columbus which turns out to be where all the somalis live but it's funny because i didn't go say i want to go find somalis i didn't really tell it anything except tell me where some really sketchy money stuff is going on and the data took me right there And so I went and I had, you know, a guy from the Capital Research Center, a great researcher.

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Chapter 8: What can we expect from the latest trailer of Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey?

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We both did our thing. We poured through all the records. And then we did the kind of what Nick Shirley made famous. We saw similar to what he did with the daycares. Nobody's there. And it was very creepy to walk down these long hallways. It looks like aliens abducted people on some day at noon, like months ago, because a lot of them will have signs saying we're out to lunch.

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And it's like you can tell they've been out to lunch for a long time. There's like mail piling up, like postmarked from months prior.

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so at the end of the day you know we kind of did the nick shirley thing and found the same results in ohio but then we coupled that with really rigorous database research and we went through all these individuals in public records and you know for those that implied that somehow nick shirley got the story wrong or didn't do a rigorous enough job i can tell you when you take two months and you look up hundreds of these people and you tell the full story uh it actually makes it worse for the for the medicaid people and the smallies not better

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So this is a five-part expose. Obviously, today was just part two. Do you have any clues as to what's coming?

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So, you know, we'll have a person, you'll hear an interview with me talking to a guy who's been charged 30 times in court, all kinds of multiple fraud arrests, violence arrests. And he's arguing with me that it's totally fine to run a a Medicaid company, um, you know, he says, I was just too dumb to know what the law is. And so this is what we're dealing with here.

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I mean, that's the excuse of these people is I'm, I'm really dumb. I just didn't even know it was wrong to, to, to steal and lie constantly. Um, but there's a lot to go through. And in part two, there's a tons of different examples from what just dropped. Um, that's going to take, I think people a while to, to, to go through, um, for example, a Democrat politician, um,

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by the name of Muhammad Jama, who ran for state Senate with the Democrat endorsement in Ohio. He founded an $11 million home health care company while he was doing other stuff. He did it as a side business. He didn't even mention it when he ran for office. And that's a pattern that we keep seeing here is like these people have these businesses on the side.

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I mean, can you imagine making multiple millions of dollars and it's not even what you do full time? It's just kind of you're just like a little side gig.

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Well, Luke, you know, obviously the vice president has responded. The state of Ohio, I'd imagine, is going to respond at some level. Well, what are you expecting from Congress? What do you think are the next steps going forward?

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