Vivek Ramaswamy

Well, and we're here in New York City, close to downtown. You got the best traders at a Wall Street firm. If they make most profit for the firm, which is their mission, they get paid more rather than the guy who didn't. Why would we want to operate our schools in a way that's the opposite principle? How would you decide what merit is for a teacher? Is it a standardized test?

Well, and we're here in New York City, close to downtown. You got the best traders at a Wall Street firm. If they make most profit for the firm, which is their mission, they get paid more rather than the guy who didn't. Why would we want to operate our schools in a way that's the opposite principle? How would you decide what merit is for a teacher? Is it a standardized test?

Well, and we're here in New York City, close to downtown. You got the best traders at a Wall Street firm. If they make most profit for the firm, which is their mission, they get paid more rather than the guy who didn't. Why would we want to operate our schools in a way that's the opposite principle? How would you decide what merit is for a teacher? Is it a standardized test?

There's upsides and downsides to just be slaves of the test, right? Nobody just wants to solve for one metric. Right. But, you know, there's going to be no perfect system. I'll be the first to acknowledge that. But is a system that has a combination of objective metrics, even if the metrics aren't perfect, better than one that has none at all? I think it is strictly better. Right.

There's upsides and downsides to just be slaves of the test, right? Nobody just wants to solve for one metric. Right. But, you know, there's going to be no perfect system. I'll be the first to acknowledge that. But is a system that has a combination of objective metrics, even if the metrics aren't perfect, better than one that has none at all? I think it is strictly better. Right.

There's upsides and downsides to just be slaves of the test, right? Nobody just wants to solve for one metric. Right. But, you know, there's going to be no perfect system. I'll be the first to acknowledge that. But is a system that has a combination of objective metrics, even if the metrics aren't perfect, better than one that has none at all? I think it is strictly better. Right.

So I think we can't let the fact that you're going to have some flaw in whatever metric you use to say that, therefore, we're not going to be paralyzed trying to be perfect. Exactly, exactly. Let the perfect not be the enemy of the good, right? And I do think that we're not at the good right now when it comes to doing justice by our kids in preparing them to be competitive.

So I think we can't let the fact that you're going to have some flaw in whatever metric you use to say that, therefore, we're not going to be paralyzed trying to be perfect. Exactly, exactly. Let the perfect not be the enemy of the good, right? And I do think that we're not at the good right now when it comes to doing justice by our kids in preparing them to be competitive.

So I think we can't let the fact that you're going to have some flaw in whatever metric you use to say that, therefore, we're not going to be paralyzed trying to be perfect. Exactly, exactly. Let the perfect not be the enemy of the good, right? And I do think that we're not at the good right now when it comes to doing justice by our kids in preparing them to be competitive.

And I think that's part of where the victimhood culture comes from. I mean, even in a state, if you train your kids to be actually prepared to compete, then they don't think of themselves as victims.

And I think that's part of where the victimhood culture comes from. I mean, even in a state, if you train your kids to be actually prepared to compete, then they don't think of themselves as victims.

And I think that's part of where the victimhood culture comes from. I mean, even in a state, if you train your kids to be actually prepared to compete, then they don't think of themselves as victims.

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I agree with you.

I agree with you.

I agree with you.

So those are the those would be the two biggest changes for the country is restoring a solid rock solid family foundation as the norm. How do you do that through policy? Yeah, some of it is at least. eliminate the disincentives to do it, right? I think those are accidents. I don't think that somebody nefariously did this to the point we were talking about earlier.

So those are the those would be the two biggest changes for the country is restoring a solid rock solid family foundation as the norm. How do you do that through policy? Yeah, some of it is at least. eliminate the disincentives to do it, right? I think those are accidents. I don't think that somebody nefariously did this to the point we were talking about earlier.