Vivek: Kicked out of DOGE? Elon Beef? Trump Relationship and More
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What happened at DOGE?
what's up everybody and welcome to the podcast and today we are joined once again listen this is not the case at all he's definitely not running for governor of ohio i know that for sure i mean he'll tell you in a moment that he's definitely not going to do that give it up for vivek ramaswamy definitely not going to be the governor of ohio right people loved you in ohio man we uh
This guy's coming to bring the comedians, first the comedians and then the industry.
He's going to save the cats and dogs, man. Alex! Already? Everybody. All forms of life. All forms of life. Okay, okay. So there's a lot of things going on here. Yeah, there's a lot going on.
A lot of things.
A lot of things going on. I need to know about Doge. What happened? You're on this podcast. You give us this beautiful soliloquy about the managerial class. Thank you. And it was so important that I was like, I need you to break it down dumb. Obviously, you're a very smart guy.
You guys say that, break it down dumb, but I know you're into the center of it. I remember that conversation. Sixth grade. I'm a moron. We're sixth graders. You know, I'll tell you, if you can't explain it to a sixth grader, it means you don't understand it yourself. That's what Epstein said.
Okay. Okay. Okay. So this, I see you just deliver this amazing thing. It's crazy on Twitter.
Everybody's like, you got it. Then after we met where one of the core chapters was about dismantling the administrative state. So this is my passion.
Okay.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, Trump announces that you and Elon are running Doge. Yes. I'm so excited. I'm like, finally, this is going to happen. It's amazing. And then... You say you hate American workers or something. Oh, come on.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He said they were too dumb.
None of the above.
But we need to light a fire.
We can talk a lot about this. No, no, we're going to talk about that. Light a fire under our feet.
No, no, we're going to talk about that in a second. So what happened? And now you're leaving Doge right on the precipice of actually cleaning up the government, getting the managerial class out of there, fixing everything.
We got a good head start, by the way, in the two months leading up to inauguration. Yeah. But I'll give you the high level. There's a short story, long story. I can give you the short story. Great. For sure. And the short story, both are accurate, but the short story I can give you. The short story is... It evolved from a focus on where I was focused, legal constitutional issues, legislative issues of if you want to save a lot of money, you got to do it through legislation. If you want to look at the Supreme Court landscape for the last few years, it says a lot of these regulations are unconstitutional. That's where I had been focused.
What is Vivek's vision for Ohio?
And the way it's gotten started, and you could see this publicly as well, is much more of a technology and digital technology focus.
Okay, so just slow down for a second. So you were going to use the Constitution to remove legislation.
Well, to remove regulations. Sorry, regulations.
So you're going to use legislation to remove regulations.
Yes, and I've written about this for the last year, right? Can you give an example of that? Yeah, I can give a good example of that. So, you know, not to get too academic too quickly, but basically, Congress is supposed to pass the laws and the executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws. But it turns out that most of the laws that decide what you can and can't do in your life were actually never passed by Congress. Right. They were passed by people who were never elected to their position. The managerial class. The managerial class. The bureaucrats in D.C. What's a law? Give me an example. So they don't call laws. They call them rules, but they have the effect of laws. Right.
How does Vivek view AI technology from China?
Let's say the amount of fees that fishermen have to pay to the government to have a license to be able to fish in a particular area.
Hmm.
Let's say it is the registration requirement before a bank or an asset manager is allowed to do business. Let's say it is the procedural hoop that a biotech company has to jump through before advancing from phase one to phase two of the development process.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What happened at DOGE?
0:00–2:45
2
What is Vivek's vision for Ohio?
2:45–3:34
3
How does Vivek view AI technology from China?
3:34–6:58
4
What are Vivek's thoughts on tweets and public perception?
6:58–9:45
5
What is Vivek's stance on American inequality?
9:45–12:11
6
How do immigration policies impact the economy?
12:11–14:46
7
What are the issues with the H-1B visa system?
14:46–16:11
8
How should America address the rise of bureaucracy?
16:11–2:28:48
Speakers
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