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What's up, guys? Mark Agnon's Arena Tour continues, all right? February 27th, Baltimore. I will be in McGuby's. That's right, McGuby's Joke House. McGuby's is great.

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it's like a house but it's really like an it's a small arena of a couple hundred people yeah it's amazing i'll see you guys there baltimore february 27th don't please don't do that because people have tried to do this and after the show they've come up to me they said akash said i had to sell your day i said please don't do it only men men only yeah no that's the only who's coming no please don't then don't even really it's not even cheating

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No, because there would be other people there that don't know about this, and then they go, oh yeah, Akash said to suck your dick. And then the other people would be like, what? Why are they trying to suck your dick?

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Anyway, please don't do it. You can just come to the show, have fun, get a drink, and laugh with people that like jokes. I'll see you guys there, Baltimore, February 27th.

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If people accept the root reflection, how do we ameliorate the actual root cause? Sure.

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I just felt so vindicated this week.

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What about your other picks? I never remember. I don't know any of the words. I got one right. I don't know any of the words you're saying when you talk about picks.

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It's a great, great throw. Unbelievable. Yeah.

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That's a very good point. You almost feel like better about it. That's a great point. And the more you're winning, the more games you play, the more calls that could go your way. Yeah.

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Like if you're going to get blamed for it anyway.

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Because this will plague you. Like you'll be in a debate and it'll get brought up again.

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And for you to be like, hey, this was settled in a court of law. Yeah. It's done.

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Did you see anything? I mean, this is from PBS. It seems like Department of Homeland Security says that ICE is able to... PBS, we should not have state-funded media.

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I can pull up another source.

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To conclude on this, it was just saying that it was able to enforce immigration laws to catch criminal aliens, including murderers and rapists who have illegally entered the country. They're no longer able to hide in churches and schools to avoid arrest.

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No, no, no, I'm not. Yeah. I mean, it's a different question than this, but when it comes to free markets, everything you're saying makes sense, right? Like deregulating, kind of letting the market operate as it is, typically works out in the best case.

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And I think the thing that I have the most concern with is health care in this regard, because the inelasticity of people's access to decline health care I got you. It doesn't really exist. So I'm curious, is there anything you can implement in Ohio to ensure quality health care to the citizens of the state?

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And as far as like non-prophylactic measures, like if someone breaks their leg or if they get diagnosed with cancer, like access to that, is that something you're able to address on a state level?

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What is that?

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Don't add up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there more to the story, Joey? What actually happened? So he gets tortured. How? He gets tortured, electrocuted, pistol whipped. They take him to the fifth floor of the building, threaten to throw him off.

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eventually it's like i'm gonna give you my crypto my passwords on my laptop when they went to go get the laptop that's when he made his escape whoa they left the room and he ran out barefoot everyone left the room yeah everyone what in the fuck is that everyone hey guys let's all go over there he was an italian guy he was italian he was italian oh mama well i think we need to see a reenactment of what he might have said to the police when he went over there he looked like schultz a little

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After he escaped.

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It's really interesting because a lot of times when they're portrayed in TV or film, they're these drunken asshole scumbags. No way. But there was that show. I don't know if it was Pretty Little Liars or something. Not Pretty Little Liars. The one that takes place in Silicon Valley. It had Nicole Kidman.

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Big Little Lies. Big Little Lies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The husband of Nicole Kidman was an abuser. Absolutely.

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Great with the kids.

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obviously obviously you're incredibly successful we've seen a bunch of the content that you've put up out on the internet like in mostly interviews that you've done it's kind of interesting because you've been this divorce attorney for decades and now you have like a public profile about your job so bizarre

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Real quick, so everybody understands that, is that like all the information that both lawyers are going to use in court has to be shared with both lawyers. Exactly right. So no lawyer is going, ah, but you didn't see this text. Exactly right.

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Right.

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And that's also like a more human relatable moment. Like it is terrifying. I imagine when somebody gets somebody pregnant and they're not aware of it, they don't know what to do. And that's this knee jerk reaction and you sound horrible. And then you have 10 years with the most amazing thing you've ever created.

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And you were just so embarrassed that that you like you could have made one flippant decision that eliminated those 10 years.

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So that's an interesting thing, too, because I imagine in divorce or in an argument or in anything, the only thing that we're focusing on are the worst moments of that person's life. So I'm sure the husband and the wife in those circumstances are just judging them by the most horrible things that they've done, when in reality, there's probably amazing memories.

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I'm not talking about domestic violence people. I'm talking about people that had a marriage and then it became loveless and they're like, let's separate. And now it gets contentious over kids or assets. But again, you're just focusing on these horrible things. Not a beautiful vacation you guys went to, not a great time you guys cooked dinner together, the laughs.

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And again, maybe this doesn't make you enough money, but is there ever, not enough money, but is there ever a moment like in divorce where both lawyers are going, hey. Should we try? These people don't hate each other. Nobody did something heinous. How can we not prolong this? Do you guys do that at all?

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Because why? It looks like you're just trying to milk it, and then the lawyers get rich and everybody else.

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That's free advice. Free right there. Are you the new Salino and Barnes for us New Yorkers? Wow. Wow. Am I both? I could be both Salino and Barnes. Of course. Of course.

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Is that the, what is like the process?

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Did you work on that before? Get out of myself.

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Yeah, that is. These were like iconic New York lawyers. And it was like one of the first like call lines for law advice, right?

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No, it doesn't have to be fun.

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You're involved in this case, you're like, what the fuck is happening?

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1-800-888-8888. Did that exist? 1-800-888-8888. There was a lot of eights.

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Jesus Christ. Okay, question about that. Do you think those people are just at the point where they're okay getting caught? Because that seems so foolish to me.

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That's a great question.

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On some level, subconsciously.

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And they're like, I just need some- If something does happen where it does end, I'm okay with it. But I don't want quiet quitting.

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Cheating is for you. It's for you. Yeah.

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We can be both. You can't be both. I think you probably. Mark, that's why our parents are still married. Exactly. That's what it is.

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That's awesome. Yeah, that's interesting.

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How many people just kill their wife instead of divorcing them?

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Yeah, you also see why like sometimes it's forgivable for people. Like I think sometimes when you're like young and in a relationship and you don't have like children or anything like that, and there's like a cheating thing, it's like the one thing you can't do.

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Have you ever been involved in one of those cases?

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So, yeah, I'm interested to talk about that. Not for personal reasons at all. No, no, no, nothing to do with that. But, yeah, I feel like when you have X amount of kids, you have homes, you have a life that you guys all enjoy, and then... The husband does some, when the wife does it, I bet the dads are like, fuck this, it's fucking over.

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But when the husband does some shit, I wonder if some of the wives are like, does he not have a relationship with her? Is it a one-time fucking?

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It depends what you do.

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What do you mean by that?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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I wasn't like the lookout if that's what you mean. No, no. There she is. Meaning like how much pressure were you putting on him where he just goes, I got to kill her.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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He loves renovations. He calls me up.

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Because they're not actually generating income. And you only pay tax on income.

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What's the weirdest way you've gotten paid? A motorcycle.

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He's almost retired, he said. He didn't let it go. He's banging trees outside of town.

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No, for real.

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So we know you've never fucked a client. But hypothetically speaking, like if you ever were to circle the block seven months later, eight months later. Yeah. And like now that girl has tons of money that you won for her. Yeah. And she's like really grateful. Yeah. What is what would that be like hypothetically? What is that head like?

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Hypothetically speaking, like when you just got her $100 million.

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Just smiling, thinking about it. Yeah, it'd be a lot of money.

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Do you prefer the ultra high net worth clients, those cases?

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But outside of payment, is it just more stressful? Is it more grueling? Is it?

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But they should if it's like a horrible divorce and you free this woman from this oppressive man and then you take the majority of money, give it to him and the house and all this other stuff. And she can't just, you know.

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Well, he's not married yet.

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Why? It's no fun. Don't you like the risk of it? Every argument that you get in with your wife, you're like, man, half my shit at the end of this argument. Isn't that exciting? Don't you want to live on the edge?

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To whom though? To whom? Worst to whom? To my wife or to me? Both of you. Both of you. The process.

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How do you feel personally? Let's say you and your wife are both working. Wife decides to not work to raise the child. Sure, common. And maybe I'm telling you how I feel without asking you how you feel. But like, there's a part of me that goes, okay, well, anything, first of all, anything, I don't have a prenup, obviously. Is there anything that we own as both of ours?

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But like, I think that if she's going to make that sacrifice and that decision, I think she's entitled. To half of everything. Who would disagree with that? Okay, good, because I think there's sometimes people... Totally fair. Okay, and I think sometimes people are like, well, if you're making the money, that's all you.

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Like, sometimes that's what they want. This is interesting. Yeah, you're almost like an authority figure. Yeah, I am. Okay, you are. Yeah. even though they're hiring you. That's really, yeah, it's like there's few positions where you're subservient to the person you're hiring. Like a trainer is one of them.

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It's like, yeah, yeah, but you're able to do that because somebody's looking after the child. Now, there's circumstances, like your guy's circumstances, they don't have a kid yet, right? So, like, he's making money and... Your wife could be making money, so he might have an argument to go, well, I'm going to keep all of this because you could be working.

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But I do think once you add children into the mix, there's a very different— But I totally agree, and I think any reasonable person would.

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with the marriage yeah no question does she get half does that really make sense half of everything so there's no question of whether whether what you're saying makes sense i think the difficult emotional battle which you've probably done thousands of times is putting a dollar value on what somebody brings to the table in a in a marriage like what is the dollar value you're worth for raising our kid yes that's a really difficult thing it feels it feels icky but it only feels icky

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Like your trainer can yell at you, tell you you're being lazy, get you together, stop eating this shit. There's lawyer and then maybe like doctor. Yeah.

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Who's the worst in divorce? Culturally, ethnically, racially. Sometimes stereotypes are a real time saver.

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How do you do that in the beginning? So you're sitting down with somebody and you could tell they're being a little fugazi about the information. How do you just go, dude? You're going to screw yourself if you don't tell me where the fucking bodies are buried.

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So what do you do? It's not their fault.

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That's a great question. I get child support. Splitting of assets.

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Make her pay alimony. Dude, I think one of the coolest things in the White Lotus episode, they have these three different girls that make up this girl group. It's phenomenal, and each is an archetype of a woman at that age.

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but one of them is paying child support or alimony but it is really interesting to see her reaction to it and how her friends react they hate it yes okay so can you explain one what is alimony and two what is like the steel man argument for it like give me the not like oh this sucks Yeah. But what is the best case scenario? Yeah.

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So just so I can clarify to anybody who's listening, essentially there's this idea where if you're married and you have a certain lifestyle. Right.

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And there's a wide disparity in your potential income because the wife might not even be working. Correct. It is up to the husband or the wife, whoever is the breadwinner, to maintain that lifestyle outside of the marriage.

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And just clarifying, behind at the race means, like, when she was 20, she would be in this beginner position. I forget what that's called. Like, early entry position. At 40, she should be, like, a VP or something. Because she hasn't worked for two decades, she has to go back at that beginning position.

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And because it's a beginning position, the earning potential is very small.

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Now, I actually think that there's a lot of compassion and empathy in that idea. Sure. Like that's the best steel man I've heard for it. It makes a lot of sense. Here's the question. I don't think most people would disagree with that. No, no, no. Here's the other question I have. There are certain circumstances where there is a divorce.

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There is a payment and splitting of assets to the tune of like tens of millions of dollars. Yeah. And on top of that, an alimony payment. Yeah. Isn't there a way where it could be calculated that the assets themselves would assume that alimony?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, I'm glad that they are making these adjustments. And I think a lot of times you have to put in this legislation because you have to protect women, especially at a time where like they weren't able to work. Yes. Like a lot of these laws I imagine are put in times where like women aren't even part of the workforce.

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As it should, but there is bureaucracy you have to go through and that's always going to be doable.

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Yes, yes.

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So this is really interesting. And just before, just to caveat it, we all understand the emotional reaction to a prenup and this idea of the impending doom of your marriage before it even starts. So we get that. But it is interesting to attack...

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the prenup, maybe attack is the wrong word, but approach the prenup with this idea that current legislation might not reflect what both parties feel is fair in a relationship, no matter how it goes. And you can, if you love some of the current legislation, put that into the prenup. If you don't, you can remove it. So I think that's an interesting argument for it.

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Who's the worst person you've defended?

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I think the perception of it is a person with a lot of assets trying to make sure that the person that they're going to spend the rest of their life with never gets those assets in the event that the marriage doesn't work out, which is the goal of a lot of prenups.

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Not internationally, but what did they do?

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like let's let's let's you're bringing 100 let's go to an alternate reality wait a minute i gotta people click because the next thing i do want to talk to you about is like uh i think we're getting there like what happens with these like huge estates these people that have like generational wealth anyway can we take like two minute breaks uh listen very important that we discuss march madness there's nothing there's more important to the people in this podcast than amateur sports yes

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We love amateur sports. We love amateur football. We love amateur basketball. We're making crazy money now. Are they even amateur? Yeah. So they're just shittier pros.

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We love shittier pros.

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Like, I don't have enough time to watch every NBA game that I want to watch, but I make sure I make time to watch shittier pros.

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And if they do, there'll be huge disappointments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's maybe one or two guys that will have a career in this entire draft. Yeah. So, yeah, but, you know, it's March Madness. It doesn't feel very mad, right? Does it feel like so mad?

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Have there been crazy upsets yet? Yeah, probably. St.

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That team lost to that team or whatever.

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And then everybody, and then all the adults pretended like they cared. Do you remember? Oh, my brackets, busters.

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Yeah, you're all working at Lumen. I think this was fantasy sports before fantasy. in that like remember I don't know because obviously everybody gambled on whatever the fuck they wanted to gamble on back in the day but like you rooted for your team when we were growing up I rooted for the Knicks I rooted for the Giants or the Jets whoever was fucking worse I rooted for the Yankees

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And then fantasy comes around and you start rooting for individual players because it reflects on your team. And I think that the bracket was the closest that we came to that. Most of us did not go to the colleges that are playing in the tournament. My school, I think we made it the year before I went there. I don't even know if we've made it since.

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So you end up having this almost fantasy-esque relationship with the bracket. So we pretend that we care about amateur athletics, which we do not.

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A lot of New Yorkers end up going to Michigan or Wisconsin if they can't get into Ivy League sports.

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So like if there's a New Yorker that's at Michigan or Wisconsin, I just want you all to know that that was his last choice. And I'm going to be honest, they thought they were better than that. They applied to Cornell. They applied to Brown. They probably didn't think they were smart enough to get into like Harvard or Princeton, but they applied to the lower IDs. They didn't get in.

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And they're like, my safety school will be, I will make the pilgrimage with the rest of the New York Jews to Wisconsin or Michigan.

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Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, and then they pretend to like the college, you know, amateur athletic.

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Exactly.

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But it's actually a good school.

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That's the difference. Whereas Michigan and Wisconsin. They just hated their parents and wanted to get away from them.

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Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Yeah, they're not.

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Real quick, because I don't want to get away from that. The reason why I was asking that question, like the worst person you've represented, like... Talking to you even before, you don't seem like a sociopath. You seem like, even watching videos of you, you seem quite empathetic. You have a lot of emotion, right? I've seen you get sensitive in interviews, for sure.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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So I understand, and there's a lot of times this happens with defense attorneys. You go, how could you represent this person? It's a great question. So you're representing sometimes scumbags. Awful people, yeah, awful people. Is there ever a moment where you're like, I can't fight for this guy? No, because... Real quick, just a caveat. Yeah. This guy abuses his kids or this woman abuses her kids.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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,,,,,

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And by fighting for custody, I'm enabling the abuse of those kids.

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You know, like that's how it works. I mean, I like Christmas presents. Yeah.

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It's the same shit. It doesn't make any sense. But we like nice things. Right.

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No, no, no, no, no. I think what we agree on is two people coming together to share love and then potentially raising a family together and not leaving each other to go fuck other people and create other families at the same time.

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Exactly. It is really good and beneficial for society. I think we can all agree on that. And let's just use the term marriage for that. Okay. If, for example, every marriage... required a prenup, meaning you couldn't get married unless you had agreed on the terms of that marriage. Now we've removed the government doing the prenup, which it seems to me is your biggest concern. You love love.

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You love people coming together. You love them creating families, and it's really important for society. What you don't love are these rules imposed on us that might be antiquated or not favorable for either party. Well said. You're a marriage libertarian.

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So what you want to do is, so I think what you're telling me, just because I don't want it to seem like you're anti-marriage, you're anti, no, sorry, you're pro what we assume marriage is, which is this union, without this antiquated gunk that is then imposed on us if it doesn't go well.

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I think I think reframing thing. I'm sure you've done this in every single meeting. I'm more talking to the audience. But I think us reframing marriage in that way and having like a real cool understanding and fair conversation about what would make us both comfortable in this. Yeah. And then you learn a lot about each other. By the way, and that's the point.

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from me and then you learn a lot about each other through that process because if if some guy is marrying a girl then they have to do this prenup process because that's part of the merit the government basically says this hey our rules are kind of fucked up we're going to give you a baseline use some don't use some but we recommend you go get an attorney and maybe there's even like a public office where they can do it i don't know if it doesn't even have to be that complicated but

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But yeah, so you go do it. And then you can learn a lot. If the guy goes, by the way, in this prenup, I want to make sure that you don't deviate within 10 pounds of your weight right now. You'll learn what's really important to that guy.

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And then you might go, I don't want to get married to this guy.

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I think that's like a very fair way of approaching it. But I like this idea that you're not against the union. And I think a lot of times when there's criticism of marriage, people think it's criticism of two people starting a family and loving each other. That's not it. We need that for society. That's a good tradition.

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I think this is a super healthy way of looking at marriage. And if you're telling me right now that the legislation has already changed to adjust some of the antiquated ideas that were there to obviously protect women, but now are no longer needed. What you're basically saying is the government is going, hey, we got to update the prenup.

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If the government has a prenup, they're basically going marriages deserve prenups. Right.

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And even if you want to look at the government acting in good faith, they're like, hey, there are these people who go, hey, we've got a problem. There are these divorced women. They're fucking homeless right now. Or they're going back to living with their parents. They're struggling to eat. They can't even take care of their kids. Now they're not around their kids.

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We've got to do something to protect that. They overcorrect.

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I want to talk about that.

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That's crazy. And I think even the government would say that that's not how it goes. Yes, that isn't how it works. But maybe there was a time where it was.

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Right.

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This is great. I love how, like, obviously you're an amazing communicator and you're very spirited about this, but, like, the spirit to me seems to come from this place of, guys, this could be so much easier.

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It's so much better. But there is this negative stigma about a prenup because we only think about these people with tons of assets that are doing it to protect it from a gold digger. We don't think about people who are building a life, like, in a lot of our circumstances. We don't really have... I mean, we're doing okay, but we don't have tons of money.

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And then once we get married, we start building this amazing life. And that's probably the majority of people that are getting married. The majority of people aren't coming from $300 million.

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Give me an example of that.

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So to me, like, you know, what's so funny is when early in my career- I'm sorry to cut you here, but it is really interesting to like understand your perspective on this. You're not against the institution. You're like, it could be so much more simple. It just could be better.

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And you've gone through so many where you're like, we're still bickering over this because you guys didn't make this very easy decision early on.

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Is there anything that you've learned through all these divorces about what makes marriages successful?

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Could you make the argument that going through that prenup process could lengthen the marriage? Well, here's what I'll tell you.

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This is interesting to talk about. I think it's a self-selecting group. What are the percentages? Okay, so we know what the percentage of divorce is for marriage. What is the percentage of divorce for prenup?

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No, I think our wives are going to watch this episode for sure. I'm curious their perspective on it.

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I brought that up three days ago. I was like, by the way, we're going to have this divorce attorney.

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So you do have that. I've always wondered if lawyers have that feeling. Of course, of course. And then can you compartmentalize that?

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I literally, I got lost when Akash was like, I don't know, he was saying something. I was like, what's going on? He's a car. But Al's been laughing at me. And then I started going like, am I making a weird face? Does it look like I'm regretting my marriage?

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But I think that prenup is already so stained. Like it's just so stained. I think that if you called it like estate planning, Like, for example, like my wife and I did like estate planning and you're just playing for the worst case scenario. What if I die? What if she died? What if everybody died? How fucked up was that? Oh, it's awful. When you're like, what if we both die?

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And you're like, oh, my God, what if we both die and your sister dies?

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It's horrifying.

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it's really fucked up but really important but it is important and at no point uh during it was it this like contentious thing you because you're all looking out for the best case scenario of everything and i think prenup is already so radioactive it's like what is another thing you could do but i really like that idea of like because you said you said it best marital contract whatever it is the government has a prenup for you whether you like it or not and most people don't even know what that means and it changes depending on what state you're in that's the part scares me the most

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Meaning that guy ends up in federal prison.

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Which is the government can change any time they want. And you could move to a different state and live there long enough. And now I think that state takes... Yeah, they take precedence. You've been there six months, they have jurisdiction. So the reality is there is nobody that doesn't have a prenup. Everyone has a prenup. So you could look into what it is.

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Yeah, yeah. This is the education I think... It's crazy.

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Because it incentivizes divorce in a way.

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I have so many questions. I'm sure everybody else does, but very exciting. Okay, so there's this thing with lawyers where, like, a lot of times our engagement with lawyers is usually during maybe the worst times in our lives, right? So the connectivity that we have with lawyers is, like, It's pretty abysmal, right?

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I'm telling you adequate, adequate protein intake is critical for building and preserving muscle mass now. And as we age, if you're an old guy like me, that muscle mass is going to BWO really allows you to play paddle for the rest of your life, okay? Literally, it's the only reason I lift weights is so I can play paddle. And unfortunately, when I don't do it, I start to get injured.

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It's that horrible. So David bars are the first thing that I'm gobbling down in the morning before I go get a workout or afterwards. For some reason, you got to get like your weight in protein in a day, which is like almost impossible. But I try my hardest. Anyway, David... has the most protein per calorie.

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So eating 100 calories of David will make you feel fuller than eating 100 calories of any other bar. David is also now available in stores in NYC. So if you're in New York, stop by your local bodega to get your protein fix and then tell the guy at the bodega where you heard about it. Let them know it came from flagrant, okay? That's very important. I'm sure that will get back to David.

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Anyway, David comes in six delicious flavors, and they're all worth trying. Also, if you buy four cartons, you get the fifth one free, which will not happen at the bodega, so make sure you do that, over at davidprotein.com slash flagrant. I'm telling you, this is the truth, man. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. It's absolutely fantastic. Anyway, let's get back to the show.

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But when you need help and a lawyer is helping you, they are heroic, as you just said. And you've seen like TV shows that talk about like Lincoln Lawyer was a great movie with McConaughey. Now they have this TV show where the lawyer is protecting the innocent that are wrongfully accused, et cetera. Like you've seen it with Joe Pesci and- My Cousin Vinny. My Cousin Vinny and that kind of stuff.

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Let's get back to the show. You know, it's interesting. Back in the day, I had a different business manager, and this is when we were about to get married. The business manager hit me up on the side. He's like, by the way, I think that, you know, we should get this prenup settled or whatever like that. And I was operating with good faith, right?

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So I was like, well, why don't you just get a lawyer? And then, like, my wife and I will talk to the lawyer, and then we'll see what the things are, right? But you're already smiling because you know where this is going. Yeah, I know where it's going. Because I'm like, let's just figure out what these things are. Like, she's not against it. Like, just... And...

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We talk to the lawyer and the lawyer goes, well, I don't know if I should be having this call with you and your wife. And I'm like, well, I'm not trying to fuck over my wife.

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But there's the perfect example of how could you then go forward with this agreement and If, obviously it's rational, but how can you go forward with this agreement if the first time you're talking to a lawyer, he basically says, hey, she shouldn't be on because we're going to try to fuck her. Right, right.

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Like, to me, I literally was going, just give me a lawyer so they can explain what's going on. And then if this is something that we even feel like we should do.

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Suits. Suits. Are there ever moments- where you get to be the hero. And what does that feel like?

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Even the language. It was like, we just want to protect you. And I go, well, my wife's not trying to kill me. Like, why are you using this language as if she's trying to do something nefarious? Protect me from what? Protect me from what? Like, why aren't we protecting ourselves?

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That's why I'm saying, like, the way that we approach this, and as you've talked about on the pod, I think it's been really healthy, which is like, hey, just come together on an agreement that you think is superior than the agreement that the government is going to impose on you. Totally. Who wouldn't agree to that?

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Totally.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Why isn't there a neutral party?

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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But why isn't there like a lawyer that wouldn't represent each party, but just someone you could go to for information? There are ways to do it. There are people that do it their way. There should be more of that.

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There's more than one path up the mountain, right? Like you don't even have to do the prenup, but just inform us. Maybe we work it all out with you and then we get it.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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That's intoxicating. Give me, give me an example of like somebody who you protected. It was like a woman who was being abused.

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And do we trust that family member? Are they responsible enough?

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Yeah. Yeah. This is this is really healthy. I really think there should be a neutral party that you could go to for information about like the laws in the state you are.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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That's it just left a bad taste in both of our mouths. Like I understood like where the business manager was coming from, because he probably has these clients that got a bunch of gold diggers trying to go after him.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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I don't have that relationship with my wife. Like we didn't have, I mean, I had a couple bucks, but like, it's not what it was now. And we were operating in good faith. It wasn't even like, how do we keep this from you? And then these lawyers on the side are trying to talk to me going, hey, well, you know, they should have somebody else do it. And then we don't talk.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And I'm like, guys, this feels like I'm trying to screw over the person that I'm about to spend the rest of my life with. And I don't, I don't feel comfortable with that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Ah, respect.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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No, that's... You're right. We get caught up in these antiquated systems and they either work for us or we believe that we're invested in them and then we want to break free.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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My parents also had a really good marriage. And like, I think when you come from broken marriages, it's a lot easier to look at how badly it could go. And I think that I'm very lucky to come from a very healthy marriage. And so in my mind, I'm like, oh yeah, it's just gonna go like that. So maybe there's a little naivete in me.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Because life is better with it. Right.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Soul. Akash is getting a prenup. All right.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Who's the worst in divorce? Culturally, ethnically, racially. Wow, wow, wow. Like, who's the most ruthless?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Really?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Give me an example of, like, you don't have to give obviously a person, but something that they might have asked you to do or told you about.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Thank you.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. And today's guest, I just want to point out, was not suggested by any of the people that were sitting here. Okay? All happily married or in great relationships, and none of us would suggest such a guest. Okay? Prolific guest, mind you. Okay, we got Jim Saxon here. The world's most murderous divorce attorney. Wow.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Did you not just go all by one?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Man, that's kind of sad to lose your partner and your faith.

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Why Relationships Die & Which Ethnicity is WORST in Divorce | The Divorce Expert

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Okay, before we leave. Yeah. Is there anything that you've learned through all these divorces about what makes marriages successful? I wrote a whole book on that. Can you give us like, just so we end on a nice positive note, what are some things that you've felt?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Is DOGE Saving America? Matt Damon is a Hero, & Steve Smith Sr. Is a Demon

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This is not safe for work content.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Is DOGE Saving America? Matt Damon is a Hero, & Steve Smith Sr. Is a Demon

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You get on board early anyway.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Is DOGE Saving America? Matt Damon is a Hero, & Steve Smith Sr. Is a Demon

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It's like Red Tomb. Like what?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Is DOGE Saving America? Matt Damon is a Hero, & Steve Smith Sr. Is a Demon

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Do you know how much money they threw at the people going up against Trump?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Is DOGE Saving America? Matt Damon is a Hero, & Steve Smith Sr. Is a Demon

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Because if it bombs, the Democrats are going to win the next four elections.

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Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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About 33%.

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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Give me the money. That's dumb whenever he talks to Anders. Yeah.

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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That was the rest of them.

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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Short story. He's witnessed divine creation. Our other brother, Sam, he lived in Nigeria longer than us. And then he came to join us in New Zealand. And he came with so many stories. Like one time after school, one of the students picked up a rubber band and turned into a yam. And then everyone's like, oh, they've turned into a yam. And they cut the yam open and then there was blood.

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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And I was like, you're capping, you're lying, you're lying. And then I went to our dad and I was like, is this true? And he's like, these things happen, like no cap. And he's not going to bullshit, he's not like a... He doesn't need it for clout. I've seen some stuff in boarding school.

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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going to a witch doctor if you've got problems your husband's cheating on you or something it's like part of a way of life in some parts of nigeria you go the little sacrifice they'll kill the chicken they'll give you something they'll be like i go put it under you under your doormat and then your husband will just stop cheating when it steps on it yeah like if there's one trust me bro that you should take as a fact this is it yeah like this is it

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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I dig this shit. Because he's so little, but he's such a boss. He's just like, I dig this shit.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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Bro, so he lives, they kicked me out of my house.

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Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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But wait, watch this.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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Yeah, I'm still in the race. Me too.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting

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He was only there for a week.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Brock, very nice to see you. Congratulations.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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I'm a lot better now.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Oh, really? Oh, come on. You know what I realized? Hillary still hates me. So much. I know. She'll never forget me.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Really? I was told some of her people, apparently they said she fell off the wagon.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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It increases glutathione, detoxes your liver.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Yeah, glutathione being a master antioxidant. It was used, I think, originally during World War II or after, yeah, I think before World War II for pain management.

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LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Yeah, it's not new.

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LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Why do you have to hide it?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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You definitely don't do it publicly. You do it in the privacy of your own bathroom. Like if you were going to take a shower, you know?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Malt-free coffee. If you want to try it, I can give you all tips.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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Bad Baby.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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What up, fellas? Happy fucking New Year. $20 million. Would you, A, suck a dick to completion, or B, get a Dubai port-a-potty? And take a second and think about it, because it'll reveal a lot of shit about your homies that you thought you knew that you... is news to you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

LA Fires: Why No One Seems to Care & Who’s Really to Blame

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1.5?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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What's up, guys? World's shortest ad read, Baltimore. I'm going to be in the Goobies Joke House February 27th. I cannot wait to see you guys there. Also, New York City. I'm going to be doing my monthly show with Joey Avery on February 25th at Mary Lou. You can get those tickets on my Instagram. I will see you guys there. I cannot wait. Come hang out with me.

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I will say my family in regards to the Super Bowl, they did say this, which I thought was interesting. They didn't know anything that was going on. They're like, who's Drake? Who's Kendrick? But they did say, I like seeing a Super Bowl halftime show that wasn't sexually gratuitous. Which I actually think is an interesting point. Sizzle came out dressed very appropriately. Yeah.

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I liked it. It was a phenomenal show. It was a phenomenal show.

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And, like, you could watch with the whole family. There was no, like, overtones of, like... Her voice is incredible. Unbelievable. She's amazing. That was crazy.

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I'm trying to be objective here. No, you're not.

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I'm okay with it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I wonder if there's a little part of her that's like, wait, I get to be in an NFL halftime show? Like, at the Super Bowl? Yeah. And I don't have to do anything? I just get to show up? You don't like pettiness? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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That's the only way to get Drake back. There's enough of those. There's enough of those. There's none of those, okay? That's an allegedly. That's an allegedly.

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This guy is convinced. I go too far. You do.

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Why are we friends?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Serena also has a perfect cover to be like, no, I didn't do it for the Drake. I did it because I'm from Compton. I was representing LA. Like it was an LA experience. Yeah.

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Big G-L-O. She's walking around our apartment singing that song. I'm like, what happened to you?

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I'm like, yes. What is the song? And then I go, can you C-Walk while she's doing it? And her version of C-Walk. Oh, God. I bet it looks like dubs. I go, C-Walk. She goes, she goes.

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Also, you made a good point. The fact that there's any OnlyFans girls ever that take their clothes off for money when you could put them on and make more.

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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She's one of the best at getting ready I've seen.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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But, like, I just love how she gets ready. Like, I don't know.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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No. Are you being mean again, Mark? I'm not being mean. No, I'm not being mean.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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i got no one to get ready with let's get ready with how's freedom oh yeah yeah yeah it's honestly you got two weeks yeah i got food poisoning on day two so yeah but you're back i heard about this shit i called it you were pre-retarded yeah i fumbled because i was like look i'm just i'm not gonna eat crazy you know what i mean we had extra chicken in the fridge from you didn't pre-retard the oven here's the crazy thing i

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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That's what I did. It was chicken. It was right there. It was from three days ago. I was like, oh, that's fine. I ate the whole thing, called my girl. She was like, what did you eat for dinner? I was like, oh, I had the chicken you ordered. She was like, from a week ago? I was like, yeah. She was like, I ordered that seven days ago. She was like, you definitely should not eat that.

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Okay. When you saw Samuel L. Jackson. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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I was like, babe, I'm not. That's chicken. What are we talking about? And then woke up in the morning, threw up four times, called Dove, threw up on the phone with Dove. Dove starts throwing up, contagious, from across Manhattan. And then, yeah, I couldn't make it to the pod, so my apologies, but...

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other than that things have been great how dare you yeah other than that i've been i've been having a great time dude yeah my apartment is a disaster the cat litter has not been cleaned out and then the cat sitter snitched on me cleaning lady baby that's the move what is the thing what is the thing that you uh why you need a cat sitter if you're home because i left i went to florida for the weekend and the cat sitter put in the group chat like yeah everything's going great the cat's doing awesome the cat litter box had a ton of stuff for me oh she was snitching i was like what the fuck you gotta say that

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I forgot to do it on the last day. Regardless.

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That's my record. That's every hour, dog.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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when i put my mind this is a real thing apparently team masturbates 56 times it dies of a heart attack real story of course it's a real story it's from punch news where i get all of my news but yeah so i only did 55 just to be safe

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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So I didn't, just briefly, were the Eagles just that much better?

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He could have, but I don't think he wanted to.

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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And I'm watching LeBron dunk from the fucking dotted line. That sounds crazy. You went home to your wife. She was like, how was watching LeBron? You're like, babe, my knees hurt so bad. My knees. My knees are killing me.

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Yeah, he's amazing. Jackie Robinson of old, guys. He really is, dude. He broke the age barrier.

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Yeah.

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If he's playing alone without LeBron, boo him. Yeah. But it's bigger than basketball. Yeah. It's a story. New Yorkers love family.

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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It's like Fast and Furious.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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LeBron really is MJ and LeVar Ball put into one guy. You know what I mean? Like perfect dad, perfect player. Just like helping out his family.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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yeah it's uh i didn't even see when it happened no i left yeah because i think the score was like right at the end yeah i couldn't leave yeah i was stuck can we bet on akash's happiness is that is that possible on stake negative i would take the over on him just being miserable forever

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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That was the greatest Super Bowl before it's ours.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Yeah, my family didn't get it. They were like, who is this guy and what is he talking about? Yeah. That's impossible. That's crazy. They thought it was fine. They just have never heard the songs. Like Usher, for my family, for French Canadians, it didn't cross over somehow.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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It was crazy. Because you guys were talking about it. I didn't really know anything about it. And I was sort of like, all right, let's see whatever this is. And then I got into it.

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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I'm like, babe, you got to sit down right now.

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I read all 500 pages of the amended complaint, as well as the important timeline of events that Justin Baldoni released on his website this morning.

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Until recently, it seems like she's distancing herself, according to an inside source, which was released at TMZ this morning. She's smart. Allegedly. Okay, so where does this begin? There's a book. It ends with us.

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I'm a white woman, too. You're a white woman. Finally. Okay. You guys let your wives read?

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I'll check it out, bro.

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Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Freddie Mercury or whatever. Gay bars in Paris? That's a Kanye song. Sounds like a Kanye song.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's a problem. And initially, and I don't know if she reads it later, but according to the text, in the pre-production, she hasn't read the book. She wants to just be living in the script and be married to the character in the script. Actually, I like that. Can I be honest with you? That's an excuse to be lazy, yo.

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I'm just as surprised as you.

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You weren't annoyed when they were like, you're perfect for the role.

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And then there's another thing that happens early on that's a little bit of a red flag. Baldoni's really, really strict on getting an intimacy coordinator. He wants an intimacy coordinator. He wants an intimacy coordinator. This is someone that comes into the production that is able to supervise all the sex scenes.

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I heard about it, yeah. You heard about it? Yeah.

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And also to coordinate the sex scenes so that they play more realistically and that they sort of can tap into the audience that they're trying to reach. Realistic and still safe. That's your whole job. Got it.

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Now, she says specifically, I'll meet with them once we start filming. But she declines it in pre-production. Got it. And so some people look at this and say, oh, she's lazy. She declined. She's also working on other stuff. People say, oh.

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Like, you got to be all in.

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And then other people say, no, she didn't decline the intimacy coordinator. She just postponed it for the scenes that required, like, you know, full-on intimacy, birth, et cetera. Yep. So that's, like, the big no that everyone's pointing at. She declines it. And then slowly addendums and changes to the script start to happen. So April 9th, 2023, she starts having notes on the rooftop scene.

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This is like an infamous scene where the two of them meet for the first time. And she wants to kind of like change the script a little bit. She wants to like revise it. She does her version of the scene. It kind of changes up a bunch of stuff, sends it to Baldoni. and says, hey, I've revised it.

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Before she sends it, she also makes a statement where she goes, a lot of times on these movies, I will rewrite whole scenes. I will add stuff to the movie that gets added in and I never get any credit. And sometimes I add stuff and people don't even want to hear it. I'm intimately involved in the production and no one gives me the time of day.

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And that's really frustrating as an actor and all the stuff that I've done thus far in Hollywood.

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We just kind of put them in there. But you're a little different than Baldoni, turns out.

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Okay, good. So, he's like, yeah, yeah, you can send me over your change.

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Fair trade. Yeah, my bad on that one. My bad on that one. But she makes changes and then sends it over to him, and then he basically responds this. And I also think it's worth noting that it seems like Baldoni is potentially on the spectrum a little. That he says stuff and does things that are so well-intentioned, but that come off weird. Okay.

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And so he basically says, hey, I really appreciate your passion on this. This is awesome. I think realistically the final version of this will probably be like a blend between like the original version and your version. That strikes you as someone on the spectrum?

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A white man is talking. Shut up.

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She interprets it as him going, Blake, hey, we're not going to use this, but I love your passion. I love that you're so into this, but we're not going to really use this. That's the way she interprets it. Oh.

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After that, she invites Baldoni to meet at her apartment in New York City.

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You're a housewife.

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Workshop some wine. He's skinny now.

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Now you made me feel bad.

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That's not a problem. So basically, Baldoni shows up to the residence of Blake Lively and greeted at the door is Ryan Reynolds. He's very excited to see him. He's like, dude, we're so excited to work on this movie. Blake's been super obsessed with the script. This is going to be great. They sit down and they go through the script.

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And then at that same meeting, all of a sudden, a, quote, mega celebrity walks in and is also talking about the rooftop scene that Blake had adjusted. And she's like, oh, my goodness, we love Blake's version of the rooftop scene. Everyone loves the way Blake did the rooftop scene. Oh, so putting a little pressure on Baldonito. Now, this mega superstar is not strictly named.

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I have noticed that in the timeline of events from Baldoni's website, there is actually an uncensored version. I don't know if it's on purpose or on accident, where they do say Taylor, which we can presume is Taylor Swift, who is the godparent to Blake Lively's children. Son, we got to send Mark's wife away more often.

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That's what I was edging to. You pop a couple zins, you're locked in. So basically, there's a little bit of pressure being applied to Baldoni, it seems like. Everyone loves Blake's version of it. And this is actually important to note, because later, Blake will admit that it was actually not her that rewrote the rooftop scene, that it was Ryan Reynolds that rewrote the rooftop scene. Oof.

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To which Sony and the screenwriters are like, well, we have to give Reynolds a credit on this. We're violating our SAG

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like union obligations this is like a huge nightmare you can't say that yeah but she goes on and says anyway but regardless in the moment she says i rewrote it he leaves and is basically like okay this is kind of wild that was on the 12th all right and then one second isn't that so manipulative she goes she goes to the guys like oh no one ever takes me seriously when i you know offer suggestions you're using that by saying i rewrote this scene meanwhile is your husband who rewrote the scene

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And I'm pretty sure it is at this point that he basically says something to the effect of like, hey, I loved your revision, even without the cosign of Taylor and Ryan. Like, you didn't even need to really bring them in. Like, your work stands on its own. And I thought it was great.

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And then she, I believe at this point, is when she sends the Khaleesi text that has now become famous, where she basically says, if you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, you'll appreciate that I'm Khaleesi. And like her, I happen to have a few dragons, for better or for worse, but usually for better, because my dragons also protect those that I fight for.

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So really, we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters of mine. You will, too. I can promise you.

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so I don't know if you really want to say Anne dies at the end horrible metaphor and then I believe it's also around this point that he leaves her a voice note after she's sort of like expressing like yeah I didn't really like the way you responded to my original sort of addendum to the script you kind of brush me off Baldoni feels bad about it they have this whole intervention kind of it's like Taylor and everyone and this is when I believe he leaves this voice note that has now become released to the public

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Pause! Again, why are you breathing loud? And mold it into the goddamn voice note. Just get the information out. Alright? Why am I beating off to this voice memo?

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I didn't even pick up on that one.

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He goes on to say, like, hey, I'm not a perfect person. I'm going to do better going forward, and I'm so sorry for the pain it caused you, and I'm really excited to collaborate on this project further. Way sexier, though.

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She's come out in support of him, but she hasn't really been vocal in the whole saga. But she has obviously come out in support of him. She's a keeper.

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So I think it comes up later that they're actually taking like metadata recordings where they're downloading all the like PDFs and everything. But I think they have all the text correspondence from their entire collaboration.

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Basically, the voice note comes out, and again, we're fast-forwarding, but people are using this. This basically acts as a mirage or an optical illusion. If you think that this guy is a creep and a sexual harasser, and you hear this, and you're like, obviously, if you assume he's just a good, well-intentioned, male feminist type dude, and you're like, yeah, he's being so nice.

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Everything he's saying is good, but the way he's saying it The voice is creepy, but the words are the right one. And everything he says, he's like, dude, I completely understand. Creepy? More like dream. That's true.

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There's an L.A. thing throughout all the text. If you read all the correspondence, the way that all of them talk to each other is sort of insufferable.

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I would give the earth to work with you again, and the moon and the stars. We're destined to make this project.

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but the difference is that we actually like each other and then we argue in front of people whereas these people don't really like each other and they're all so nice 100% so the next phase that happens like escalates things crazy so that happened on April 14th 2023 April 22nd like a week later Baldoni goes in the movie in the script in the original script there's a scene where his character lifts up her character like picks her up and Baldoni has a bad back

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He's had many back surgeries. He has like a bulging disc in his back. He got that Luigi. Yeah, he's just been blown out. He's got his back blown out. And it's like a whole thing, right? So he goes to the personal trainer.

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What did you mean by that? I don't know if actually he's got his backbone.

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That is a red flag. You have such a good back. You have the strongest back. The only good part of me. And basically he goes to the personal trainer and says something to the effect of, hey, I want to avoid injury. So how much would you estimate Blake Lively weighs? ballpark, just as a fruit, as a collection of fruits. If you had to guess, it's like 10 watermelons. What are we talking, right?

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Looking back at a lot of the halftime shows, you kind of need one stadium anthem. Yeah. You need, like, a big orchestral, like, shut down the thing. You don't even need music. Just let everyone sing type song to really win that.

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He goes to the guy and says, how much does she weigh? And it's not really stated what the personal trainer responds with, but basically this comment gets back to Blake Lively. And she's pissed and offended and thinks it's completely inappropriate to be asking about the actress's weight as the director or as an actor, which again, he's playing both.

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120 at 5'10".

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So again, this is like some spectrum thing where it's like, okay, you're asking, you want to do the right thing, you have a bad back, you want to make sure you can do the scene properly, and also you don't want to make her feel bad if he goes to lift her and then his back is fucked up and he's like, oh, it's not you, it's me.

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What if you just attached... A harness?

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There's got to be a way. Exactly, yeah. So apparently, I think they ended up working and rehearsing with like a body double while they're like trying to get the scene worked out. And then three days later...

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according again, this is to Baldoni's, uh, sort of online testimony of like evidence he's putting out, uh, that he's summoned to lively's penthouse in New York, where he's greeted by Reynolds who swore at Baldoni accused him of fat shaming quote, how dare you fucking ask about my wife's weight? What is wrong with you?

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The tone from Reynolds and lively was so aggressive that Baldoni felt he had no choice, but again, to offer complete, uh, offer repeated apologies. And, uh, for what was a good faith, reasonable question to the trainer, not lively and demanded that Baldoni, uh, Reynolds demanded that they remove the lift scene completely. Now, later, Lively claims that the lift scene was never in the movie.

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It's not in the movie currently. I'm pretty sure it's in the book, so it'd be in the movie. But they said that it was never even in the script. There is versions of the script that have it in there. They say it was removed in the edit. Again, yada, yada, yada. So that is, I think, where things really kind of start to turn, okay?

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And that is his brand. It's like, I love, I'm a male feminist. I love women. Yeah. And then I'm fat shaming women on myself.

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He was like asking how much I weighed.

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Now it's worth noting that at this point, Lively had already expressed concern over her body. She's already told him like, hey, I want to be like in shape. I really treat this seriously.

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She had a baby. She had a baby.

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But she's already expressed, hey, I feel sort of insecure with my figure. And he assures her over and over, don't worry, we're going to make you look amazing. Don't even worry about this. This should be the last thing in your mind. You're a great mom. Don't even worry about it.

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He says like, yeah, you're great. Like, don't even worry. I don't know if he says specifically beautiful. He might have.

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But basically he's assuring her it's fine. And then later is asking about her weight to the personal trainer. Yeah. Some people see that as an infringement and some type of- How important is this lifting in the air scene?

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Maybe.

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He believes it adds to the story that he's a strong, powerful guy. And that's the way that he subverts her in order to abuse her later. So he thinks it's integral to the story that shows that he's dominant over her. He's able to move her around.

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Gotcha. In this same meeting, Lively tells Baldoni that if he can't get on board with how she works, she has, quote, two weeks to recast her. He knows it's impossible to recast her at this point. They're already in pre-production. The wardrobe's already getting bought. And he's like, I'll work with however you want to work. You got it. Now, this kind of tips the scales, right? Pun intended.

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Towards the side of her gaining more power over the whole production. And then the wardrobe thing becomes another big issue. Yeah. So basically the first day of principal photography, they capture her wardrobe. Apparently she's doing like all of her own wardrobe. She's like dressing herself.

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And there's like a whole issue with the money. The money thing is crazy. Like they have a budget allocated like half a million dollars or something like that. She's spent like six hundred fifty thousand. Again, some people say that's completely normal and that they return stuff and shrink down the budget later.

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Other people saying that she's being gratuitous with the spending and is not worried about the budget that's getting put up. But again, this becomes another point of contention where they're talking to her about the wardrobe stuff. Also, when the pictures leak of the wardrobe, everyone hates it. All the fans of the book are like, this is not what the girl looks like in the book.

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So, like, this is an actual message that they even put in the group chat to discuss her wardrobe. They're like, this is not how she looks. And this is from two years ago, and all the comments are like, this is atrocious. That's $600? Yeah.

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So that's adding to everything, right?

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So this is now getting backlash. Sony's talking about it. Everyone's like now concerned with the casting and the wardrobe. It's like just causing problems on the set. And then basically right around this time, there's the writer's strike. And so the Writers Guild is basically on strike and now there's like picketing going on at all the production days.

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And then on May 29th, right before they stopped filming officially, Wayfair was made aware that Lively had placed calls to Sony to share grievances. So here are a couple of grievances. One, Baldoni made a comment about her looking sexy on set in regards to her wardrobe that the character Lily was wearing.

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uh apparently she was also shown uh pornography is how it was sort of described in the press but then in this uh complaint to sony that she was shown a birth video and then lastly she shared that one of the assistant directors i wanted to replace her like get her out of there So Baldoni has responses to all of these grievances. Do you want to hear those or this is just where it's at right now?

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Baldoni says that like the birth video thing was like a non-issue. Like there's a birth scene and they asked her like, hey, do you want to see a picture of one of the other producers home birth? And she was like, oh, let me finish eating. And he like had it on his phone, but never showed her. And it was completely consensual. It was not pornography. It was just video of birth.

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Um, the, the sexy comment came because Blake Lively was talking about how she wants the character to be sexy. She says it throughout the text. She's like, I want the character to be sexy. I want the character to be sexy. And then he goes, you look sexy. And then in one of the scenes, she's wearing like a onesie with a coat on and he goes, Oh, take the coat off.

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Cause like, it'll make the character like more sexy. Yeah.

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she interprets that as like what the fuck is this guy doing he's like leaving me voicemails he's like this is like he's such a creep and now he's telling me I should be sexy da da da da and then the directors the ADs that are asking to replace her the ADs end up getting removed and Baldoni's like yeah they were causing trouble on the set they wanted to recast Lively I said you guys gotta go

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And so that's where things stand. And then on the 14th, they go on strike. And so production stops. And then it's in this whole time that, again, power starts to shift.

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And I think it's right around this time that like there's kind of a standoff. No one really knows what's gonna happen. They resume shooting in January and she comes back with a list of non-negotiables. So even more stuff than now she's flagging to everyone. Sony, everyone involved. And the non-negotiables are everything from the stuff we read before, but they're more egregious.

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I can go through them one by one. But basically, he's basically saying, like, these are... I'm not coming back to film unless y'all give me these things. And so we need an all-hands meeting. I need access to the dailies. I need access to script revisions.

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I need people to not be walking into my trailer while I'm breastfeeding because you guys walked in and you were trying to see me breastfeeding, which later she says in text, like, I know you weren't trying to cop a look, but it made me uncomfortable. Right. I think she actually invited him. She said, I'm breastfeeding. Yeah, exactly. He released that text. Yeah, precisely.

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He releases that to show like it wasn't really a problem, that there was one time where multiple people walked in and then they kind of like turned away and it wasn't really an issue. Again, he said, she said.

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Yes.

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Candace is coming. Candace is coming.

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Yes.

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Yes, I'm a man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

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I believe you. Hey, we believe you over here, Candice. Just keep that energy open.

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So she's got all these demands. They kind of capitulate against the advice of some of the other producers. They're like, yo, stop giving her all this power. And so she's just gaining more and more power. I want addendums to the script. Give me the drama. Give me the gossip. Give me the Perez Hilton. I got to pull up one more thing. Let the hair down.

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This is where things go a little wild. January 4th, Baldoni, another one of the executives from Wayfair, a Sony executive, and an A-list producer that was brought in by Lively and Reynolds meet at her apartment. It was January 4th.

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As the team prepared, they have their production binders on hand, and basically Reynolds then starts berating Baldoni, demanding that he apologize to Lively for the actions that either had never occurred or had been grossly mischaracterized. Baldoni resists apologizing for things he had not done, which further enraged Reynolds. Again, this comes from Baldoni's testimony here on his website.

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Everyone, including the new producers, are lively, have requested to join the production and the Sony executives. They quote that they had never seen anything like this happen in their productions or have never seen an executive or director spoken to in such a manner during a meeting.

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Later, the Sony representatives shared that they often reflected on the meeting and regretted not intervening to stop Reynolds' tirade against Baldoni. So... Now Reynolds is involved. He's talking that shit. And tensions are rising. So everyone's pissed off. They somehow complete the filming. And then it's basically in the aftermath of the edit that everything just gets fucked.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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So they're now fighting over the final cut of the film. And they're doing pre-promo where they're like filming all this stuff before the trailer's announced. Baldoni's not involved in any of it. So they hire Reynolds company to do a lot of the production stuff. So now it's like the whole cast. It's Blake Lively. It's everyone else in the movie. It's the book writer, the author.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And Baldoni's not involved in any of it, which is very strange that the director and like the other co-lead is not involved in the film. So film gets released and then they're basically like, okay, who's going to do the final edit? Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Thank you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I thought you said you wasn't going to hate today. That's not hate. That's facts. That's hate. That's data. Look at Spotify.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And then they dropped the clip with audio, which no one knew at that time, at least, that there was audio. We can watch some of it. Again, this is another cultural mirage, where depending on what you believe is what you see.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He don't know. He don't know. He don't know.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Jabberwocky. Jabberwocky. It's like Blue Man Group.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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They don't all look alike. What are you saying? But he don't even wear a mask. If Flo Rida walked in this room. He doesn't wear a mask.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And so she's suggesting, hey, we should be talking. We should be talking right now. And he's like, oh, I think it's more romantic if we just look at each other. Almost Kissing is also good. And she agrees. And she says, but we're still talking.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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But at this point, I'm pretty sure they hate each other.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Oh, that's what they alleged. The allegations are they hate each other. At this point in the film, I don't know the exact date that this scene happens. I'm going to lower the audience.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah. All right. So where are we? They come out with this and say this is proof that no sexual misconduct occurred, that everything's being talked about. Multiple people are there. There is no intimacy coordinator. Yeah. Which they say Lively turned down. Lively said, I didn't turn it down. I just didn't need it for this scene because in the script, there's no intimacy. It's just us dancing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Do they really? So different. It's unbelievable. It's exhibited. Actually, I don't know. That's Flo Rida?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Lively's team says this is absolute proof that this guy was being sexually inappropriate on set, that he was abusing his power as the director and the producer to have a sexual moment with the lead that he's also the co-lead with. Okay. And then that's basically where it stands. And people are like, hey, what does it mean?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He puts out the voice recording at this point where people are like, see, this is more proof. And then there's a trial date that's set.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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That's being serious. I thought that was Dame Dash.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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I'm dead. I said, back it up.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Back it up, doctor. Nah, it's got to be a chicken dance or something. It can't be a cute song.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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People also point out, like, why would he, this guy that has a Hollywood career, sexually harass a woman who comes from, like, a legacy family that's not, like, young in the scene. She's not, like, a fringe character. She's the co-lead and a producer.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Yeah, like if you comment about my feet, that's sexual harassment.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Okay.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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It's close enough.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's been here for a year. Hey, Archer, get your way up. Give him your heart right now. Give him your heart right now. You can lift Archer.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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People also point out that in this scene, she makes comments about his nose, which he's publicly talked about being insecure about. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, yeah, don't be too sideways. What you insecure about?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Noses are very sexual. Noses are.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's true.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He didn't have a big nose. That is true. Why did he hate Jews? Why? Because why? He was ashamed of how small his nose was.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Take your heart back. Take your heart back from him. Take it back from him.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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And then I just hide in the corner. I'm like, damn, I'm not going in there.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Yeah, I believe it. You can tell, right, by my voice? No, I'm just saying.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Halftime Show & How Reynolds/Lively Cancelled Themselves

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Why are you doing that? Do we need an intimacy coordinator?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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The lead is 23 in the book. Yeah. And she's 35, I think. I mean, what are we doing, dude? And then on top of that, she's dressing older, it seems like. So the character's 40. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah. Because you hate someone else more. Yep. You see these people that are like, oh, fake woke, and they want everyone to be happy, and they want equity, and they're donating to brown people in different countries. And then the second someone fucks with their money, they're coming forward, they're slandering him, they're taking his name, they're running him through the dirt. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I thought it was like a little shit. The producer could have brutally. I thought that would work. Now I'm trying to say it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Imagine putting an end to the Super Bowl halftime show. There would be no more Super Bowl halftime shows. I don't think they would let black people even play in the Super Bowl after that. Oh, yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And everyone was very conspiracy theory. And they're like, oh, Taylor's going to be at the Super Bowl and Blake Lab's going to be right next to her. And she's going to show that that's her girl and that they're riding together. And she wasn't there.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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It's the gift and the curse. But a man is not a career alone. A man is a career and a family. And now he's pot committed to his wife. He can't just let his wife drown. Now he got to separate himself.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might have to do that. But he's in a tough spot because if he rides with Blake, it's possible he could tank his career. But if he distances himself, then it's possible he could lose his family. So what do you do?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Can I tell you, Mike? The suit is also levied not only against Baldoni. I'm pretty sure it's levied against the production company and the other billionaire producers. The Blake Lively lawsuit. Yeah, that lawsuit.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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What's tricky is that they already tried to force him to put out an apology. So they wrote an apology for him when they had all the producers there. Who was they? Blake and... When Reynolds was yelling at him. They gave him an apology, and they said, you got to put this out. We wrote it, and it says, there's been problems on the set. I take accountability.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's what it means to be man enough, quoting his podcast name. And, you know, it's my fault, and there's some misunderstandings, but everything's good. So they tried to get him to do an apology, and he said no.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I think Baldoni.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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A thousand percent. Six months from now, let's say nothing changes and it's just a stalemate waiting for court. I think people go and they go, oh, yeah, wasn't Blake Lively a bitch? Who got more to lose? I think that's what the average person thinks.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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But the terms of settlement don't get released, or that could be part of the agreement. That always gets released. Also, Baldoni's lawyer is making their life hell. He's saying like, oh, Taylor Swift was involved in casting, which is what one of the actors said. So now she's a producer. Oh, Taylor Swift was involved with the music, and she was in production. Oh, okay.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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She helped rewrite one of the scenes. We got to depose her. And now he's trying to leverage that, which is why Taylor's now saying, like, I wasn't really involved.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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But Baldoni's in such an advantageous position, which is why also this is such a big story, because all the texts are leaked. It's just feeding the fucking gossip sites for generations, literally. And WWE doesn't back you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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It depends on what they have. It depends what their hand is. You know what I mean? Like, Baldoni just showed it. He's like, yo, I got, you know, two kings. They're playing blackjack. And it's like, maybe they got an ace? Like, you don't know. So you just got to wait. And then if they fold, then it's like, yeah, they were bluffing. And if they go to court, then they're like, no, we think we got it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Call. Do you want to put it in the court of public opinion to let it then get potentially thrown out in court? Or do you just wait to the court date? We're going to sit on it because we know we're going to win in court. I mean, that's fine. That's a year from now. What happens to Ryan Reynolds if they lose?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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And then you fund the minority power. And then you create the need for American imperialism to be present in the country because now there's this culture war that's stoked. Ah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah, I mean, I think they have like legacy acts and stuff. I think it's just like a, it's an event for country lovers.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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We'll figure it out on Patreon.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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No, I said I have no idea. I can't wait to show you more white stuff. That's the best.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Cold ocean.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Y'all bullied me into it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yo, how did this get on us? Yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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That's a great point.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Exactly.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He got a pretzel on my dime. There you go. Andrew gets to raise awareness. Why are all these black guys jumping in the water? Because of make-a-wish.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Look at the nutrition facts, yo.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I do notice a ton of stuff coming around.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I respect it. I respect it. I respect it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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My wife. I want to get her a nice watch.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Ugh. Like, these motherfuckers.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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1296.113

That's too far. I'm trying to beat on you, daddy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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What is he doing? That's crazy. Bringing up trauma. I wouldn't do that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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No, no, no, no.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I would never do that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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If he ain't Indian, what the fuck else could he be?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You hate the Cowboys.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Hey, don't go too far.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Christ, there's so much more annoying MAGA.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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January 6th. He just did that. I'm wishing on me being a cuck, having a nice time. This guy gotta make it political.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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3.1475635798432579.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's like, let me tell you.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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It don't sound good.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Not this year, though.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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This year came out in late November. I got no responsibility for that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yo, you want to share the vacation? Take a picture of the beach. Yeah. What you mean?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Because he's angry. Because I'm still salty. Because he's fucking mad.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's looking in your head. He's in your head right now. He already knows what you're going to say.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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This motherfucker, bro. You unfaithful. I was asking if she was going to say dumpster, if she was going to say over there, if she was going to say... He's like, yo, where you going to go?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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He's too cheap.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You know, barking my fucking mind on my witness. We thought that sounded like a respect thing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Color just fucking is fine.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Absolutely.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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533.424

My mom got it, dude. My mom got it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Look at that. He looks cool as fuck, dude. Look at the fuckboy shirts. He's got the crazy watch collection now.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You posted your mom's feet. I can't help it that my brain caught it and made it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You don't read that cuck-ass publication.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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6540.502

That's crazy. Yeah, you baptized your son, all right? Get the fuck out of here, dude.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You're trying to fuck your kid. No, no, not with me. You can't say that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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You can't say that legally on this program.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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She's covering your mouth.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I'm sure it's not that bad. I haven't worn it in my mouth for 30 seconds. Got diarrhea for three days. It can't be that bad.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Were you looking at my mom's tits platonically? I wasn't looking. I was just talking. But why'd you hug from behind, though?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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I think your mom would be flattered if she heard us talking about her feet.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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1.97

Yeah. Sanchez? Pure ass. What's interesting is Al might not have been the weakest link. Vala wasn't bad. So Vala's still the worst?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Oh, didn't they do the x-ray thing? Yeah, if you got a bit in a pit, it would slow down, show an x-ray, and the leg would fucking snap. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Remember that TV show, Scarred? I couldn't watch that. The whole show was just people breaking their bones. Fuck that show. What's up, guys? Welcome back to Scarred. A guy would hit a 10-step rail grind and snap his leg bone sticks out.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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1043.422

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Yeah. It never changes. Never. There's a gay character in Mortal Kombat, I think. Can you pull a Valdo? I think that was his name. Did you ever play Mortal Kombat? Yeah, but I don't remember this Valdo. Bro, he was like a BDSM guy. I've been homophobic for quite a while. Bro, I swear to God. Make him bleed that way. Bro, me and my dad used to play this and I would pick him.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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108.596

Yeah, he's in chronic pain.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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My dad would be like, why'd you pick him? That's crazy. I don't even remember this guy. I never saw that. I remember being embarrassed because I picked him and my dad was like, why? And I was like, I don't know. I thought his hands are cool. He's got good attack. Valdo. No.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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1117.737

Siegfried was one of them. No.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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What? No.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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With the giant sword. Bro, some dude crushed me in the meeting room. I still kind of want to know what that one is. I'm not going to ask.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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113.638

He's an idiot. That's his fault. Insurance companies denying, defending, deposing him. Insurance companies. He's about to sue Brian Thompson again. Yeah. Again.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Some guy was like, bro, on the pod, y'all guys are about Putin. I was like, what? Putin? Yeah. So I got Charlemagne with the Justin Theroux one. Because that's a real guy. That's a great one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, who's this? Oh, these are all the guys?

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You just asked, who's this? Oh, no, no, no. Soul Calibur. I was playing Soul Calibur, too. No, Mark, stop it. I've been on fighting games more than y'all, is what I'm saying. No, you haven't. Yes, I have, dude. You did, like, pillow fights since you were a kid.

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You saw me do that one-handed, right? I know.

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But if I move his belt, if I move his gay, that means I'm scared. You know what I mean? Let me pull your underwear to the side, son.

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My name's Mark. I'm coming to America. We got Raleigh, North Carolina, Poughkeepsie, Portland, Fort Worth, Austin, Stanford, Philly, Leavittown, Chandler, and San Diego. More dates to come. You can get it at my website, markgagnonlive.com. Anyway, Last of Us, best show on fucking TV.

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Yo, HBO's on a run. Let's go.

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He does have a Luigi vibe, doesn't he? Shifty's got super Luigi-coated energy. Oh, shit, I see it. He does kind of look like it.

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Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

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And in this one, I hit double X for belt. I was spamming X to get the belt off. I got nothing.

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She had gay energy the whole time, though. It's not shocking that she's gay. Which one, Ellie or Dina? I don't know about Dina. I haven't seen the show. Dina, shut up.

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They need a video game about that. That shit is crazy.

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He's sending people to Auschwitz, bro. True. Of all the times you go, now is probably the better time.

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Oh, yeah. I saw a girl on some TikTok. She's from Poland. I've seen the same one.

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Can I put it on there? I'm trying to act. What is Poland? There's white women in Poland? Shit, bro.

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You were mean. This guy's a mean guy. He just called you dumb. You just called him dumb. Yeah, because he's pretending he doesn't. What?

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I called you handsome and he went, what? No, I'm reacting because we're not doing this right now. Okay. I was making fun of him for being dumb. You made fun of Vala for having no legs. You made fun of Al for not being good looking. I'm the nicest guy and everyone's trying to make me a bully. No, you're a piece of shit. What happened this weekend, bro?

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Yeah, he's bitter. Something happened. Something happened. Where was the show? Charleston and Atlanta. Charleston, South Carolina. Charleston, South Carolina. And then Atlanta.

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Nope. Where is he from? Pakistan.

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So what happened? Shows were wonderful. No issues at all. What black guy hurt you? Did a black guy hurt you? You got heckled or something? No, they were wonderful. It was technically an alpharetta, which is not Atlanta, apparently. I told many people Atlanta and it was just, I lied. Yeah.

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Imagine what we're feeling like. We're getting blasted by the AC. He does it sometimes. We went to a nice dinner. It had steaks in it. He just had a hoodie on the whole time.

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I don't know why.

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Okay. Do you think other people would agree?

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If you vet them based on looks, then you go, okay, this is great. And so there's an app where everyone can just vet, and if you're above a 7.2, then you get to come in. But if you mix that with a little melanin?

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Hold on. Look at the bottom, though. It says, you can watch this video and learn more about a Navy SEAL who joined the French Foreign Legion. What does that have to do with SEAL? Also, Al might be right. Okay, so... I might be right.

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Vala always starts it. I don't like this idea that I'm bullying Vala. No, Vala...

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You should. I feel... I think he's a nice guy. He's a good father. You've got an insane life. You, like, fled his country or some shit? Now? Now? Now? I think... Now... Let's find out.

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mixing up with francis and ganu it's gonna be very he was born in london but where does he live now in america fled his country mark take the l mark no he fled england mark take the l he left mark if you don't take the l we'll never learn well banger of a performance man he killed me

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Yeah.

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It looked painful.

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I was saying it.

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The cars don't look fancy. They got fake headlights on them.

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That's so funny. Is it during the race or just parking? Yeah.

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Yeah. I think there's also something about it that, like, you can't just try it. You know what I mean? Like, basketball, you watch a game and then go try basketball. And virtually every sport has that. Whereas F1, like, you'll just never try it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Love 40, bro. That's me and Vala's whole relationship. What? You had him love for me? Yeah, just in life. It's just love for you. I'm just a point away from decimating you. It's just Love 40.

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Where they're like, yeah, you just get to watch the most expensive thing, money that I don't have, to do a crazy sport that I'll never try. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, I don't know, it's impossible. Yeah.

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I want to go to another one. Who was the coolest person you talked to?

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Any interesting people you're like, oh shit, this person's here?

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And who are these guys? Are they like quants, kind of like socially awkward genius types?

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Oh, that's interesting. Apparently with NASCAR, it's that way. It's like all like D2 football players. The guy that got drafted and then came out, and now he's just like pit guy. Yeah. Moving, you know, gasoline around. Yeah. Which, like, it's kind of sick if you're a former pro athlete to go fuck around some cars.

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That's what I want. Like horse racing, you know the horse's name. You know what I mean? You don't know the jockey, but you know Seabiscuit.

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What happened? The tire you changed flew off?

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I definitely didn't. He's like a bully.

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It looks like not your hand. It looks like someone else.

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Sort of in a weird way. You see like a crazy outfit, you're like, oh, that's kind of interesting. I still barely understand what it is. Me neither.

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But this is a fundraiser.

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I think it's one of those fundraisers. Right, but that's the thing that I don't get. So does it start as a gala?

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It's both.

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I get why people go. I get why brands do it. That part all makes sense. I'm so curious about the fascination. Like, the amount that it grips people. People love fashion. Yeah. They love famous people.

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He's also not doing it, right? Like, it's the designer being like, this is what you're going to wear. I think you can say no. Yeah, you have an idea of what... How does it work? Like, do the designers be like, this is what we're thinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Dude, I wish I could be in your head for a day and just see the world, you know what I mean? You wouldn't see much. You would love it.

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This is such a big penis. How did you know Seal's daughter wasn't real, but the piano was?

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Have you heard the whole controversy with this outfit? Tell me right now. So Rosa Parks is in her vagina. I've saw a bunch of people on Twitter getting pissed off. Wait, what? So again, the theme is black dandyism. So on the outfit, there's different historical black civil rights leaders. And one of them... Are we serious right now? Google it, bro.

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I mean, I might have got fucking got, but I'm 99% sure. Did you see this? No, but I do have a joke, so keep going. Okay. So apparently there's many different civil rights leaders and Rosa Parks is over her crotch right there. Oh, but there's many of them. Yes. Not just Rosa Parks. But to my understanding, that was the one that people were mad about.

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Because then maybe they put her in the color section. Oh, we're going to hell.

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But all these people on Twitter are mad about it, being like, you shouldn't have put it there.

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They're trying to tell Rosa to leave.

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Yeah. Personally, I think she ate and left no crumbs. Personally, her body is tea. My honest opinion.

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The zempi, maybe? I don't know. But even though zempic, I don't know if it can actually restructure your jaw. But I think it just, like, depletes so much of the fat and muscle in your face that it kind of, like, brings all the bones out.

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This is a regular outfit. Yeah, but black dandyism is the theme. It's just a little bit of a, you know, got to be delicate. Camp of Rosa on your pubes and, you know, think everything's going to be just fine. Wait, did Kamala go?

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Jenny, another girl.

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We got to do more Povich for Schultz versus Asians.

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What is it with a smirk? That was the hand on the shoulder. Yeah, it was.

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I can't. He's too smooth. He's too smooth. Pharrell, he could have went harder. I'm surprised. But he designed all the shits, right? Well, he just designed the Louis, right? Yeah, just Louis. But, I mean, there were mad people in Louis. He did Sabrina Carpenter. He did Dochi. He did a bunch of people.

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Yeah. Are they married? I don't know. Let's look it up.

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You're plotting on something. I'm not plotting.

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You're scaring me a lot.

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That's bad. Too much power. We owe it to the audience, bro. We gotta step it up. How do we do better than that? Just try to, you know, influence elections. Here, have you ever flicked a Zim? No, I haven't. You said it's nasty.

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Can I have a fresh session?

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I got you, my boy. Any other funny outfits? Like, oh, what did they put Stevie Wonder in? Oh, no. Come on. I mean, every day is a Met Gala for him, dude.

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What am I wearing now?

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What?

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Stevie's lying. Yeah, he's lying, bro. Stevie's lying.

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Bro, I was talking to Dune Atlanta about this. White people and black people conspiracies are so different. Okay. White people are like 9-11, the moon. And black people are like, Stevie Wonder's lying.

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Have you seen this? There's a god in the nation of Islam that created white people. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I was looking into this. The devil? Yacoub? Yacoub, bro. Pull up Yacoub. Pull up a picture of Yacoub, dude. Oh, this shit is awesome. You got that up quick as fuck. So this is Yacoub, all right? Yeah.

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Like there's like a battle against black people, something like that. Really? Yeah. I don't know what to do. Someone should fact check this. I don't want to be disrespectful to the nation. You better watch out. I know. They don't play. They gonna curse your wife out while you pass by. I mean, of all the Islam's to piss off, the nation of, I think is the least dangerous.

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Really?

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Yo, poor one out for the dead, dude. Shit. We put him on a t-shirt. I believe that. That's what white people do, bro. We took out your crew. Got him airbrushed on a talty. Let's go. Have you heard that Elmo's black? No, I thought he was gay. Oh, what? He's like a New Yorker, they're saying. Wait, what? Some girl at the show is like, no, Elmo's a black man.

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Like, there's a whole movement about Elmo being a black dude. Why does the character have to be black? It's Muppet.

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Hell yeah.

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Yeah, Bert and Ernie. Are they? Hunter P. No way. A weekend in Switzerland, just Bert and Ernie? You're telling me they're not gay? I'm sorry.

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Yes.

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Didn't even say hi to any of us as we walked into the studio. I was just, I was fucking. You were locked in. Face deep in my Mac, just getting hyped up, I'll be honest. Okay. Because Ibrahim Traore. Yep. That guy. Here, come on, come on. Come sit here. Oh, hell yeah.

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It was amazing. I love fasting. I feel so great when I fast. I feel clear. I feel more sharp. You don't have to believe any of that stuff, but it works out.

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It does work out. Okay. And I did the kettle on fire, and I was like, oh, this is amazing. See? Delicious. My wife makes bone broth, and then she was like, which one's better? And I was like, yours, I'll be honest.

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let's let's learn but first of all where is it west africa it's near like mali okay and uh for years they were colonized by the french okay and the french basically colonized them and started taking all the resources yep as they do as they do only them well they apparently have their history of colonization is different so like the british sometimes would like come in and like nanny state

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But the French were just coming to be like, we're taking everything. Taking it all. So then they get independence in the 60s, but the French leave, but then prop up a bunch of their backed politicians that then run the country and just kind of siphon off all the resources to the French. Right. Also, the U.S. kind of comes in, starts siphoning off resources.

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They had a presence, and then the president was, you know, backed by the French. And then they get, this guy Sankara, back in the day, he gets assassinated, and he was trying to, like, liberate the country and nationalize the resources. And then he gets assassinated.

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And then basically from then until, like, 2016, they've just been under, like, kind of, like, French, you know, colonization, stealing all their shit. And then in 2022, this dude comes in and says, nah, fuck that. What's his name? Ibrahim Traore or Traore or something. And yeah, basically just takes back the country and starts nationalizing all the resources.

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So does a coup, creates a government, and he's now the leader of it. He's 37 years old. Fire. And is just running the country.

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Yeah, formerly military. And then, so how did he get the loyalty of the military? Basically, he was just like, yo, this is fucked up what they're doing. All these presidents are, like, Manchurian candidates, siphoning off of resources, leaving our country in squalor. Burkina Faso has, like, historically the lowest GDP, or, like, of the lowest GDPs. 40% of the country lives below the poverty line.

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Everyone's struggling. But they have the fourth most gold of any African country. Just getting crushed. And they're like, what is happening? Why does this keep happening to us? And so then they do a military coup. And then the guy that leads the military coup ends up getting ousted by him. So it's like a coup of a coup. Oh, shit. Of another coup. There's just all these different coups.

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And so he eventually gets appointed by the coup board. And they're basically like, yeah, Ibrahim's going to run it. Why did the first guy get kicked out? Do you know? They were unsure of his loyalty. And then also he wasn't going hard enough on the jihadists. So there's two problems happening in Burkina Faso, where the one is, like, the French occupation.

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And then the other thing is you have jihadists coming in from, like, Mali that are now displacing all these people in Burkina Faso. So they're coming through. Like, two million people have been displaced. Thousands of people have been killed by this, like, militant Islamist regime trying to create, like, an Islamic state. What's their name? They're connected to al-Qaeda and ISIS.

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They have, like, super specific, like, you know— Like, I don't know what the clique specific name is, but yeah, basically he's come through and be like, yo, we're nationalizing the gold. We're kicking all the jihadists out and we're going to make Burkina Faso great again.

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Oh yeah. So far like that we know. And they've tried to like coup him. So he got super popular recently in April because they tried to do a coup on him and he was like, nah, fuck that. And taken. So now what happens internally is that you have people within like your own regime trying to take you out.

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So there's other people vying for power, like people that helped you get to your position now trying to take you out. Yeah. So now he's creating a system. I don't even understand how they're doing it. There's not even a ton of coverage on this. It's like hard to find. And he's basically like quelling internal coups and basically appointed himself as like the leader of the country. Holy shit.

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Kind of did away with like the democracy hit a quote where he was like, democracy's never progressed a country. No country's ever developed under democracy. We need like a strong king to like rule the shit. And it seems like he's doing it. So the people of Burkina Faso are like pretty stoked on it.

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That's not true. He played with Al and they got bageled. No, no, no. He lost.

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And now this like authoritarian kind of thing is like spreading through Africa where people are like, we need this. And every former colonist state, because all of Africa has been now like beholden to their colonial ancestors, their parents rather.

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I mean, UAE is, in my opinion, the best example of this. Okay, give me, give me. So their British mandate, the English control the whole area. And it's not even UAE, it's just all the separate emirates. And then they find oil in the 50s. And then Sheikh Zayed brokers a deal with the British and is like, hey, we're going to give you the oil.

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At first, they started just taking the raw oil, not refining it in the country, not helping the people... Just getting all the oil out of there. And he goes, no, no, no. We're going to come together, unite all the Emirates, and then nationalize the oil, and refine it all here, and then partner with BP so you guys get rights. And then partner with the US, Exxon, all them.

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You guys get rights to the oil. And then that's where the petrodollar comes from.

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Hmm.

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So like, hey, we're all going to trade our oil. We're going to give you guys good deals. We're going to partner with you guys. We're down to play ball, but we're going to help our people first. And was diplomatic enough to make it work like he didn't get ousted or, you know, replaced.

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Historically, the cheapest thing was let's just put our guy in who's going to give us everything. Yes. And now we'll make him a millionaire and we'll just take everything.

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it's over there and we can just it's like out of sight out of mind you just fund a sort of separate military group and you fund five of them and whichever one wins you're like oh great we got a guy back but there's a cost too for that it's like what the mafia bosses will always say it's like when we're all at war we're not making money brings way too much attention

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Which, like, they kind of do. So, like, some of the colonists are like, no, no, we have, like, aid programs. Yeah. And we're giving you guys aid and we're helping out.

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Exactly.

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Yeah. Burkina Faso is in a tough spot because they're landlocked. So they require and rely on all their neighboring countries for transportation.

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Ah, interesting.

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Yep. You're so dependent on the people around you. Can you check to see if it is that guy? And then what's interesting is that a lot of people in Burkina Faso, now Ibrahim is kind of, like, partnering with the Russians a little. Oh, boy. Like, trying to, you know, get some infrastructure, trying to, like, cozy up with them. Because you kind of do need... You need a daddy.

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You need a little bit of a partner. Yep. And so now Russia's like, hey, you know, you've been screwed over by the French, the Americans, da-da-da. And the American diplomats are like, hey, this coup thing is crazy. And the Russians are kind of helping them out. Yes.

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Siretse Kama?

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Mm-hmm.

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Wow.

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That's fascinating. Yeah, because that's the hedge against currency. Yeah. And he's hooking up the farmers too. He's like giving farmers free tractors. Like he's like, so far it seems like everyone likes him.

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This is since 2022. Yeah. What he does with this sort of unchecked power, we shall see. That's the thing.

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And that's hard, bro. You get a seat at the table, and they're like, bro. Yeah, no, that's rough. Let's just give you everything you've ever wanted. Like, he grew up in a town of 2,000 people in the middle of Burkina Faso, one of the most poor countries ever. And now people are going to him, being like, yo, let's do a deal. Let's work this out. You'll be a millionaire, da-da-da, billionaire.

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And you've got to be able to be like, no, I'm good. I'm going to help my people. What if you're that guy—you got something, Joey?

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Oh, that's right.

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No? Okay. Don't do that. Definitely don't do that. We love beans. We love beans. BlackRifleCoffee.com.

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Yeah. Well, everyone likes a good king. You know what I mean? Like, if you've got a good king that's running shit well and everyone's cool, like, most people are down with that. They trust him.

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Yeah.

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Like, the wise king, you know what I mean?

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Yeah, he was one of the most brutal dudes ever. The stuff he did, it was insane. There's old documentaries on his atrocities, where he's just pulling people off the street, fucking murdering them.

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But the tricky thing now with Ibrahim is that all these other countries want authoritarian leaders. There's a push towards authoritarianism because he's been so great so far that now are you going to have other countries in the region being like, where's our Ibrahim? And then are you going to get bad actors that are like, I'll do it? I actually think he's right, though.

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I don't think democracy is the quickest way to progress. Like, democracy led us to civil war. Maybe not the quickest. In fairness, he said no democracy has led to prosperity or something like that. Oh, well, that's bullshit. He has a quote about democracy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah, no country is developed under democracy.

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Okay. Thoughts? Yeah, I mean, Bezos has a quote where he, it went viral on Twitter recently, where he was like, in order to get outsized gains, you have to bat against conventional wisdom. Yes. So, like, if you go against the grain, you're going to strike out nine times. But if you hit it, you have potentially a thousand X reward. And so I think that happens in the film industry.

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Yeah, it's so crazy. Even like Vietnam time, how they convince people that communism was like an existential threat. I do think that is true. But like, how do they get people to be like, yo, we got to stop it?

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Yeah.

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We're going against conventional wisdom. Let's make a gay cowboy movie. It goes crazy. And then, of course, everyone chases. I think that happens in every industry.

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Is it possible that there's a cartel that's like, yo, we're going to ship this stuff, we own the shipping, and we're going to throw our own product in there, and then it'll get sorted out when it lands?

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But again, these cartels make crazy money. Like, $31 million, it's almost tricky because it's like... It is a lot of money, objectively, of course. But if you're a cartel with hundreds of millions, billions, it's like, oh, we can use this for political leverage. Or, yo, we're just going to throw this in our shipment. And maybe that's the only one that got caught. You know what I mean?

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Yeah, yeah. And then gatekeeping. A different country doing the shit that a bunch of first world countries do.

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A bunch of first world countries do a bunch of fuck shit to get rich, and then other countries try to do it. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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So we got to treat it like a race. I wouldn't say I'm okay, but I do recognize the game. Maybe okay isn't the right word. I recognize game. I'm like, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what we're willing to do. And I'm not pearl clutching. Like, oh, these guys are the mafia. I'm like, everyone's the mafia. Everyone's the mafia.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, that's kind of the accelerationist thing where it's like, there's people that don't like Trump. They're like, it's good what he's doing because he's airing it all out. And then hopefully people will see how corrupt everything is and then we can fix it. But let him air it all out. Let him do all these things where they expose how corrupt everything is and what he's doing is wrong.

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But the next thing will be better because we can stop it. Hmm.

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That's ugly. I hope we either fix it or put us more curtains.

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Yeah, I don't know if you can have a society function that way, though. Probably not. I have no idea. I don't know if any country's really done that, where, like, all the curtains are off. Actually, this is the Vietnam thing. I'm watching that documentary on Netflix right now. I want to hear about that rat thing, too. Oh, my God. That shit is fire. Did you get into that?

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But also the dudes.

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Did you do the episode on it already? Okay.

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No, not at all. But the Vietnam thing, they made an interesting point in the doc where they're like, that is the moment where America, the curtains started to tear. Like, that was the moment.

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And then through the 50s, you got some Pacific theater stuff. But it's like, oh, they're just patching up World War II. No one even really knows what's going on. And then Vietnam is the first moment where it's like, yes, we're going to do it again. We're going back out. And then they get out there and they're like, what are we doing? Why are we here? Like, what is the point of all this? Yeah.

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And then you start to see like the, the tears come in, like all the conspiracy stuff comes in around that time. Like JFK, obviously the Gulf of Tonkin stuff. Yeah. Like what is, what is America actually? Yes. And is it good or bad? I don't know. You get like a rise in conspiratorial thinking. I imagine. Or bad. I don't know.

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Yeah.

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I don't know. I mean, no. I think the cracks are still there, but as long as everything's fine, you don't really notice.

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I mean, in World War II, but then the second the war ended. And now. He was the threat of communism.

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Yeah. And then kind of like the movie studio thing, you probably have real people that have, like, real honest opinions that we need to do this. And then you have the, you know, people at the top maybe that are like, yeah, we just need to keep the money coming in, keep everything moving economically.

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And then they kind of team up, push an ideology, and they're like, yeah, we can become number one with this.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Here's the shortest version. Universe 25. You ever heard of this? No. This is an experiment that this guy did in the United States, this guy John Calhoun. And he was a researcher at the National Institute of Health. And basically he was doing these rat experiments where he was trying to see basically the effects of urbanization.

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So like post-World War II, you have these cities propping up all over the country. They're like expanding. You got New York, Chicago, L.A. They're becoming these massive hubs where people are living in these small, tiny little apartments.

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And basically he was doing these rat experiments to see if you had all your resources met, you had food, you had housing, all that stuff, just by overpopulation, would it lead to social decay? And so he takes... So real quick...

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because i think it's really important there's enough food yeah there's enough shelter okay so there you are met with everything you need or we thought that you needed to thrive okay yeah so he creates a what he calls the rat utopia or the mouse utopia where it's 10 square feet and they have all the food possible they have all these compartments it has a holding capacity of 3 000 mice he drops eight of them in there with like robust dna that they can procreate effectively

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And for 100 days, they just start banging, just mouth sex everywhere. They have a bunch of kids. And then slowly, things start to decline. So around like two years in, it's like a 600-day, it's like a five-year experiment.

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And everyone's cooperating. So the mothers take care of the kids. The males are protecting their families, da-da-da. And then at a certain point, out of like 1,000 rats or 1,000 mice, it starts to fall apart. where now there's conflict around these high traffic zones. So whenever the mice are coming into contact to each other, they're hyper-aggressive.

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And then the female mice are not protecting their young. And then they start getting into cannibalism. And the mice are actually eating each other.

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There's enough food for every mouse. So every time a new mouse is born, they inject more food, more food, more food. So everyone has enough food. But they're still fighting. And they're still fighting. And then they're creating. Tribalizing, right? Yeah, yeah. And they have all their different compartments. They can all spread out.

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And then at these food centers, these high traffic zones, they start to get aggressive. And then it goes even further. Once they get to like 2,000, the birth rate starts to drop. They stop procreating. Mothers stop protecting their kids. At certain parts of it, there's a 90% mortality rate of young because mothers are not protecting their kids.

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And so then you have hyper-aggression from the males, lack of maternalism from the females. And then the most interesting part is that you get some of the mice that become socially detached. So he calls it in the experiment the beautiful ones. And there's an interesting parallel with Japan. So the beautiful ones in the experiment are these mice that basically just checked out.

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they had food they would go in their little compartments and they would just groom themselves like neurotically and they were pristine they were like the most beautiful mice of the whole thing some of them were like you know chewed up and eaten up in battles and stuff these ones were just fully detached they're like they had nothing to do with the society now there's a thing happening in japan right now the hoki the hoki mori if you can look it up and basically it's a group of people in japan that have kind of like dubbed themselves these like detached people of society that don't really participate

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They get, like, some assistance from the government, and they just kind of, like, live in their houses, and they don't really go out, and they're completely isolated from any type of community. And as a result, yeah, the haikikomori. Yeah, haikikomori. And they just live in extreme isolation. And people have pointed to this, be like, this is basically the beautiful ones of the experiment.

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They just kind of detach fully from society. Yeah.

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Right. What people have said.

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Yeah. And so the eventual conclusion of the experiment, it didn't even get to the holding capacity. It got to like... 2,300, 2,400. And then the numbers started going down. They stopped reproducing until eventually the whole society just fell out. They call it behavioral sync. Behavioral sync is just the whole thing basically just like crashed down.

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And the interesting part is they took some of the mice out and put them into normal enclosures. And even the mice that they took out never adapted. to the new enclosures. They continue to have aggressive tendencies or non-maternalistic tendencies. And so they still had the maladaptive behavior from the original experiment.

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And then the kids of the mice with maladaptive behaviors continued to have hyper-aggressive tendencies. And so there was like an epigenetic problem within the mice where they could prolong the effects.

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Yeah.

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Mm hmm.

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I think it happens, like you mentioned the medical industry. I think they also sometimes couch stuff in flowery language to make it seem like, oh, our mission is someone in my family had cancer, and so we're doing cancer research, da-da-da-da. And it's like, okay, it might be that also. Again, it's hard to judge people's internal intentions, but there's also the financial component, obviously.

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I've even read some stuff like epigenetics. Again, this might be pseudoscience. Epigenetics is environment, right? It's just like... Genetics, as I understood it, is like basically passing on genes and having traits in your young that are environmental from the parents. Right. So it's basically like if the parents experience something, it's possible to genetically pass it on.

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That's just what I want to clarify. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like through like emotional shit or like high-stress environments or like high-anxiety parents, having children in high-anxiety times could create high-anxiety children. Yep. Even if they're no longer anxious or raised in a non-anxious environment. Yep.

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I don't know necessarily what the data is on the current science, but I've heard these things. This is a cool shit to learn about, though. Yeah, we should talk to Atiyah about it.

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So critics of the experiment would be like a few things. One, humans aren't mice. That's the obvious one. Like they don't have the consciousness or like the ability to like discern threat or not. They're just kind of acting on it. Probably have lower capacity to change intellectualized situations. And then additionally, people said that this is not a utopia. He called it a rat utopia.

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They're like, there's high density poisons

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channels where people are bumping into each other there's intentional conflict on these frequency corridors yeah where one if you can build an urban design well enough you can decrease that and two in the wild mice when they're experiencing a threat are going to run they're not going to fight and if you have no place to run exactly they're fighting because they're in an enclosure gotcha that's that's a good that's a very like you can leave a city you know like you can run away from a conflict things like that to wrap this up so go go jail

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exactly more so nicely ranging but as a result policymakers have taken the experiment and applied it to like theme park design jails all that kind of stuff smart where they're like okay in the experiment there's only four zones where like they can get food something like that and now they're like disperse it put it all over so like now theme parks will have food like tiny little like 50 person stands all over rather than one giant spot where everyone can get food because they're trying to lower uh contact and

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Yes. So I think every industry, like their motivation is ultimately financial, but they will kind of frame stuff and like, oh, our brand statement is, you know, make people fit or make people smarter. But it's like, OK, it's that plus money.

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Well, then you look at Japan and you're like, okay, very low immigration, very low emigration. And what's happening? And now are you experiencing societal collapse? Are they having the super low birth rate? Are they having this social detachment? And they are, right? That's what people would say. Yeah. And what is the eventual fallout of that? What is the conclusion of that?

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According to these experiments, not great. Yeah. Just send some Mexicans, man.

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I also don't think that these studios are ideologically consolidated. Well, there's one ideology. I think they're bringing in different people. So you'll have the executives and the finance people and the number people that are obviously, okay, we want to make money, make sure it's profitable.

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But then they're like, okay, let's bring in some creatives that are living in a car, that are just making these beautiful movies. And they probably don't give a shit. And then they're amalgamating this group of people that all have different strengths.

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So I think that, you know, obviously stratifying it, you have people that just care about the money, but then you have people that are like, no, I care about only the mission. And then they butt heads and then hopefully they make a good product. Yeah.

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Exactly. They're not, I guess, you know, lying when they're out there being like, no, we need to make this story because this is important to me in my life. Yeah. They were just picked because that is what their mission is. Right. Yeah. And then the studio brings them in and says, okay, let's make a film.

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Doesn't it? Yeah, these round-eyed motherfuckers.

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924.203

Oh, that's possible. Hold on.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Roasting Met Gala, Last of Us goes Gay, & F1 is IS America

969.585

I was playing Mortal Kombat. I was playing Mortal Kombat. So that's the thing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Roasting Met Gala, Last of Us goes Gay, & F1 is IS America

997.853

If you drop mitts, you could fight?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

1090.729

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

1204.425

Shut up, man.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

1659.096

It's Wicked.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

1786.009

I loved it. I love you, bud. That's the most American.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

3696.658

I'd rather think I've got it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

3877.34

Different disease.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

395.017

I used to say, wait a minute.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

4176.31

How to...

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

4848.335

Legend.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

4995.228

Nah, but you did that shit, right?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

5026.472

No.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

5048.876

I'm so embarrassed.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

5183.654

Gerrard.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

525.534

I'm going to do Adam.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

5392.583

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

6077.272

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

6335.771

He's great on it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

664.12

And then Adam comes in, 10 kilos deep, like, what the fuck is this?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

7316.604

And they're like, fucking...

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

OnlyFans Girl Takes on 1000 Dudes & How to Fix British Grooming Gangs w/ Adam Rowe

899.614

Oh, they told you?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

111.325

So I dapped him up, and I was like, dude, I love you. I think I said I love him to Zlatan, and he was like, okay. And then I took a selfie, and then I never saw him again. He just walked away. It was awful. It was terrible.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1241.167

Oh, dude, I took a bath recently. That's tough, dude. Last week.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1283.172

You're pissed. My wife drew me up a bath because my legs were sore, so she was like, yeah, I'll get you Epsom salts, but then also put bubbles in it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1296.045

I just haven't taken a bubble bath.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1298.728

I was a kid. I was like a child. I took a full-on bubble bath as an adult. You take baths? No. Well, why were you like that?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1316.805

No. You ever catch a bath jerk-off? No. No, that's crazy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1384.372

Dude, if you're brushing your teeth in the hotel shower and you drop your toothbrush, do you just leave it or do you pick it up real fast? It's over. It's a wreck.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1392.979

I always. I'm all exclusively in the shower. Really? I definitely will do it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1397.742

Yeah, it's a time saver. A hotel would warm. Until you drop your toothbrush and then it goes towards the drain and you pick it up real fast and you just look at it. It's just over. And you're like, do I dare try this out? Yeah, I do. Mark.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1413.017

You don't have to worry about clogging that drain. I did have to snake my drain recently. Ew. Dude. Somebody's supposed to be quiet going, ew.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1429.246

Dude, the upstairs shower got so clogged up that the water filled up the shower and then started leaking into the bathroom downstairs. Oh, jeez. Because the drain was so jammed. Yeah, you got all that hair. Yeah, me plus my wife, plus now our new baby. Oh, congratulations. Tiny little baby hair. He's got no hair. It's all going to the drain.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1447.411

And then I had to snake it and it was just one giant glob. And then I was sitting in the shower just covered in muck. And then I had to shower in the same shower that I just cleaned. It was awful. Yeah, it was terrible. Why are you doing it? Who else is going to do it? You ran into a place, right? Yeah, I texted the maintenance guy, the super. And he was like, you should do it? Left me on read.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1468.744

Wow. I respect that.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1500.461

You just got to get the towel. You just get the bathroom towel. That's the responsible move. That's like a professional. I've been at a hotel before. Preemptively. Yeah. And you got to just see it through.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

1822.797

What's your favorite grunt?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

2171.408

Take it to the next level. And this was a while ago?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

2468.16

That's great. I was like, he's eventually going to send me something. I don't want to see me be a loser. Smart move, dude.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

2951.183

I mean, you got to see Shane throw a first pitch at a baseball game. You must have been so excited for him.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

2956.966

Of course I was excited for him.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3303.323

You think Pacers taking the final?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3418.069

He drops it every once in a while.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3459.062

That's a banger. Unfortunately, that's a banger.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3551.477

It was unbelievable. Indianapolis is slept on as a city. I love Indianapolis. Truly slept on.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3556.241

Isn't that what they call it? That's what they call it. It's all small town people that go to a place. So it's kind of got a city, but everyone's got no ego. I've been there once or twice in both times.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3796.147

I'm not sure if it was him. Got covered in tattoos. I've seen it a million times. I know him in every occupation.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3835.154

You. What? Like an open call. Absolutely not. No way? No, no, no.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3899.511

Once you get a triple dish... 1,000 is a lot. Fucking 50 is crazy. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3960.591

The inverse Bonnie blue, I think is more impressive. Oh, way more impressive. Oh, absolutely. A thousand women in one day. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3968.995

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3970.156

Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

3971.476

That's what we say. Yeah, men can't fly. You know what I mean? How are we going to fly around?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4070.99

Did you clock it? Do you know what you came up with? That must have been 50.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4075.074

We got it. We got it. We got it. We got it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4298.756

Dude, New Year's, it was like me, my brother-in-law, he's in the Navy, like my other brother, like it was just a bunch of guys and we were doing Ligma jokes. And so I just threw out like a Ligma something. And then my dad just chirps up and goes, Ligma?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4318.457

I mean, if you crushed it, that would have been all time. I just threw up a Ligma, and then my dad just kind of pipes in randomly and goes, what is Ligma? And all of us just go, oof. Just kind of put our heads down like, fuck. And then I kind of had to walk him into it and be like, Ligma balls. And my dad was like, I don't like this. What's funny about this?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4337.332

My dad's actually like, I don't like these jokes. And so we had to explain the whole thing to him. And by the end of it, he goes, don't do this around me.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4412.36

Just ruined my whole night. That's nice. I mean, it's cool to see, you know.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4488.809

Just like, no, no, no. You just kind of distract me and be like, dude, have you seen the skylight up here? And you just go, whoop. And just one time, you just stroke him as fast as you can without them noticing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4544.529

There's been a whole pro-LGBTQ movement in New Delhi. Can you pull that shit down? This has been all time.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4631.408

Everybody's got weapons. Hey, hey. Dude, the life of Pi is more impressive now. When you see this. He's on a boat with them chilling.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4683.103

Dude, the over the head smash.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

471.387

That was season one.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4729.029

Really?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4777.93

I just said Miles the gay Indians. It's awesome. All right. They turn those sticks into signs. And now the signs just say, like, we're gay. And then they're doing these protests. And it's just all time, dude. Oh, it's awesome.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4793.582

That's okay.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4796.104

That's okay.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4798.562

That's okay. What was that one? I'm Hitler. I said Hitler.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

481.355

We were.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4847.26

Well, they kind of need it over there. Those boys get a little wild. You go to Italy, you see some of those Italian guys. Oh, yeah, they're throwing the bananas or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. It's a little too much. It's crazy. Like putting that in the metal detector.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

4983.728

Oh. So it really is Italy. That's Scotland or any of these places. Like, yeah. Oh, that's great.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5106.288

That's a tough moment. You ever been kicked out?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5165.387

Unless he gets his commentating gig.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5336.514

Clyde Tilsley was like this a little bit. He was great.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5342.099

Kathy Bates with the sledgehammer.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5347.552

You ever hear Americans try to commentate soccer? I hate it. I hate it so much. Wait, why? It just sucks.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5358.038

Oh, they're trying to be too professional about it. They're trying to be English. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5366.544

Wait, why?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5368.665

Oh, they're, like, doing the British chants?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5394.762

No. Banner. All right. You meet a dude in a polyamorous relationship. He loves like the Portland Timbers. He loves the Portland Timbers. He's a diehard Portland Timbers fan. He's got an Xbox jersey. Seattle Sounders jersey.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5415.293

All fashion. Yeah, yeah. Bananas in the game, finally. Yeah. But everyone else is very gay. I don't know why.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5424.906

Yeah, it's a weird thing.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5472.028

I mean, it's kind of funny. If they leaned into the gay vibes, like if they had gay chants and everything, then the games would be worth going to.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5496.458

They're trying to get in the other team's head, I think. That would fuck me up. They see Mo Salah coming down. They're like...

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5536.049

Jews. Yeah. Chelsea had the Russians for a while.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5539.131

Yeah. It's kind of tight. But then they forced them to sell it. Yeah. That's right. It's kind of wild. It's crazy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5558.962

Yeah, they forced him to make billions of dollars and he was like flying.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5573.189

Yeah. But I think there's like sponsorships versus like the owner of the team being like a guy.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5595.16

That's fucking cool.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5597.962

Burger King did a genius one. What'd they do? So Burger King found a loophole in the FIFA games. And so they sponsored, like, the worst team in the third division in the English Premier League. Like, the worst. Literally, like, they were 0-20.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5614.991

And then in FIFA, you can put Ronaldo in that jersey in Ultimate Team. And so now they are just reposting, like, Ronaldo wearing the Burger King jersey. And for, like, $20,000, they got Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, everyone wearing the Burger King jersey. Kind of genius.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5630.502

Yeah, in FIFA. In FIFA. Interesting.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5651.364

Photoshop Burger King on tomorrow. What the fuck are we talking about? I'm sorry, you guys are all business. I'm sorry, you guys don't understand marketing and branding. It's a video game. It's a video game.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5679.333

I'm going to find that video.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5681.995

I'm going to find your jerk-off video immediately.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

5708.295

He's a real Ellen.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

6123.917

Leading man.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

624.26

I'm editing. I haven't left.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

6407.57

I feel like there's only one way to end this podcast right now. Are we going to do it? No, I don't want to do it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

6417.094

Do you want to be Jasmine?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

6422.036

No, no, no. This will be fun.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

838.752

Hey, guys, it's Mark Yagdon, World's Fastest Ads Read. Ready? Buffalo, New York, Raleigh, North Carolina, Poughkeepsie, New York, Portland, Oregon, Fort Worth, Austin, Stanford, Levittown, Washington, D.C., Chandler, Arizona, San Diego. And, of course, the last week of every month I do a show in New York City at Mary Lou. I would love to see you guys come on out. A bunch of other dates.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

857.143

You can check out my website, Mark Agnon Live.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

863.106

Please don't do that. See you guys there.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

865.448

Bye. How has life changed?

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Shane Gillis & Steve Gerben get Catfished, Gay Jokes with the Boys, & Tires 2

93.709

I did this with Zlatan. Zlatan Ibrahimović. Oh, yeah. We met him in Abu Dhabi. He's a soccer player, all-time legend, one of the greats. And I just saw him, and it was one of the few times I spazzed out seeing a famous person. Normally I just avoid it, and then it just goes away. But I couldn't help it. I was like, I have to get a picture with Zlatan.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

2338.584

Fair.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

3321.595

I just want to point out.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

373.393

You killed it.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Kendrick Response, Drake Lawsuit, & Netflix Special Taping

4314.173

Can we talk about Wicked for one moment? That shit was so fire, dude. Can we talk about Wicked for one single moment? Yeah, that shit was so fire.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

NYC Mayor Adams on Bribery Charges, Corruption, & Which Borough Has The Baddest Shawtys

1015.381

If any guys named Chandler want to suck his dick.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

NYC Mayor Adams on Bribery Charges, Corruption, & Which Borough Has The Baddest Shawtys

1020.644

I'll see you guys on the show.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

NYC Mayor Adams on Bribery Charges, Corruption, & Which Borough Has The Baddest Shawtys

1177.746

Fuck you. Right, right. And I get some pushback on above ground. I walk around New York City a lot. I moved here in 08. And I will say it feels less safe like just seeing... I was walking here one day from 59th. It was a long walk, but I was like, let's do it. On one block, I see like four guys shooting heroin.

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

NYC Mayor Adams on Bribery Charges, Corruption, & Which Borough Has The Baddest Shawtys

1195.573

I see another guy, literal piece of his intestine sticking out of his stomach, covered in what looks like shit. That's not...

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

NYC Mayor Adams on Bribery Charges, Corruption, & Which Borough Has The Baddest Shawtys

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when i go to penn station i used to live in jersey i'll take it every day i see people shooting up hair on right outside these are not things that make me feel safe and that is a crime you know even then it might not be aggravated but like i i'm not even saying this to like dunk on you or whatever but i will say as someone who's lived here 17 years it does feel less safe when i'm walking through and i see stuff that makes me feel like this doesn't feel better and i would tell him i was like for a person who grew up here my entire life it's

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That's why it's just so weird hearing that because I'm like, yo, if you sold Times Square back in the day... It might be safer than it was in 1998, but I don't think it was safer personally than it was in 2009.

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Right.

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You started stealing because you're dyslexic. Right. Like, you know what I mean? That's how New York was. They were like, I mix up letters, let me just start running numbers.

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You raised the city's credit score. Take that, racists.

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So what would your solution be? Because three strikes doesn't seem that fair either. So like, what would your solution be?

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No, Brownville, Texas. Right. Right. No, I think growing up in Texas, they feel like New Yorkers, L.A., whatever. They judge you a lot, especially in New York. But y'all don't deal with what we deal with. Now, see how you like it.

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Thank you.

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Exactly.

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Okay.

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crime vocal like when you were in the police force which i thought was admirable you were vocal against amadou diallo i think is right exactly which is a brave thing to do because what happened to him was fucked right but to the same end if you think what ice is doing right now deporting guys with green cards and all that i assume that would be ice you would also speak up against ed ice right well our city you know this is such this is some good stuff for your your your listeners

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So what do you what what do you think of what we're reading? I don't know what's real. It seems like students leading protests with green cards getting deported in your city. Yeah. How do you feel about that?

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No, no, no. Too hard pushback.

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This is a resident of your city. Yes. He's at Columbia. So temporarily he's a resident of your city. Right. Wouldn't it be wouldn't the onus be on you to look into what happened? Was it lawful? Was he breaking laws? No.

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If he's saying all that, cool.

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It is awesome.

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It's legal cheating, which is what we all do. That's everybody. Why didn't they change the bats before? Yeah, why are they the only team that looked into this? Smart. So Miles probably knows what they did to the bats. I don't know if we care, but they changed the bats. And they're knocking them out of the fucking park. We're not going to tell other people what happens.

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Right, right.

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That's right.

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Absolutely.

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When you look at it and when you have dyslexia. It was like, put that to him.

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Sorry, did I hear, I think Joy was telling me, right before they said they're seeking the death penalty for Luigi?

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I would think the highest paid profession should be cops, teachers, doctors. These are positions you want the best people going to. And if I'm a cop making great money, the idea that I might mess around and do some corrupt stuff or treat somebody badly and it might cost me this job that pays me well, I don't think it's worth it. Good point. You can weed a lot of them out.

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I just want a rent-controlled apartment. I just want a rent-controlled apartment. forget the key but this man deserves a key nobody rides for new york harder than this guy okay okay quick uh quick quick couple quick new york questions okay which borough has the most attractive women oh um i think um all of them have great shorties

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All right, guys, let's do some tour dates. Side splitters. We're at like eight shows right now. I think a few of them have like three tickets left, but we added another show Saturday at 4 p.m. on April 12th. So hurry up and get tickets to that. Also, April 18th through the 20th, I'm going to be in Denver and in the Denver area, April 18th and 19th.

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I'm going to be at Comedy Works South in Greenwood Village, April 20th, my traditional 420 show at the Comedy Works downtown. These are my favorite clubs in America, so make sure you come to that. Also, May 9th and 10th, Virginia Beach, June 19th and 20th, Salt Lake City, and June 21st, and August 1st and 2nd, Kansas City, Missouri. Get your tickets to those dates and more at AlkaSync.com.

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So I'm curious, even in the book of James, the epistle of straw, as Luther would call it. Yeah, by some pious Jew. Yeah, perhaps. That in this book, God says without works, faith is dead. Yeah. Faith without works is dead, rather. Yeah. So how do you reconcile that with this idea?

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Have you heard the claim that Jesus just took up the teachings of John the Baptist and basically co-opted it to then create his own cult, so to speak? Yeah.

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No, no. What are you talking about? No.

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But like even that idea of like, you'll know my followers by their fruits. It's like if you see a Hindu or like a Sikh that's feeding people at their temple or a Muslim that's living like a very pious life, perhaps they're living a Christian life. Is it possible that that is the fruit that you can know them by? A Christless Christian life isn't a Christian life.

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What's up, guys? Really quick, I'm on the road. That's right. I'm going to Indianapolis, and then I'm going to Buffalo, Raleigh, Poughkeepsie, Portland, Fort Worth, Austin, Stanford, Philadelphia, Levittown, Washington, D.C., San Diego, Burlington, Montreal, Toronto, and a bunch of other dates. You can check them out on my website, Mark Yagnon Live, and we can have a great time. See me.

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Come hang out after the show. I'm not asking because he's asking. I'm not asking for anything. I'll be honest. A few people after the show were like, hey. What is this? A few people after the show were like, hey, I'm not going to do what Akash told me to do, but I just wanted to say hey. And that's great. That's all I need, okay? See me at the show.

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See you there.

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I feel like the funniest thing of Jesus going to Jerusalem is that— No one thought that a guy like the Messiah could come from Nazareth or Galilee. And then there's a reference and they go, what good has ever come out of that? Like they talk shit about it. Yeah, it's the boonies.

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It's like the middle of nowhere. Yeah, yeah.

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Actually, on the topic of India and Hinduism.

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Um... I have a quick question on some of the discrepancies that occur in the Bible. That's something that I struggle with sometimes. Sure. As a Catholic, we have a little broader papal authority. I'm curious, how should Christians deal with discrepancies in the Bible, whether it's the birth story or the death of Judas or things like that?

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What do you mean by discrepancies? Can you explain some of those?

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Apparently there's all these issues with biblical translations as they're trying to translate it in the 20th century to all these different cultures. And when they're putting it in their native tongue, there's one specific that I remember. I did this field trip to Wyclef, and it's a Bible translator in Florida. Have you heard of it?

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And one of the things, this one specific tribal culture in Africa... And there's this idea of Jesus knocking on the heart. But in that culture, thieves knock. And so they're like, okay, we can't make it knocking because then they're going to think Jesus is a thief. And so what they did is like they would cough or something like that.

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They would like clear their throat to indicate that there was someone on the other side of their hut. And so they had to translate it to Jesus coughs at the door of the heart or something to that effect. And that when you're translating things, you have to be super specific to the culture that you're translating to.

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You need your PC to look like that. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I get you, I get you. We need to get dove in here, dude.

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No, this guy is like a diehard orthodox Christian.

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Wow. That's awesome. Hell yeah. Thank you, Muslims.

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What do you think about Martin Luther's removal of the Apocrypha from that original canon?

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Nice.

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Yeah, yeah.

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The great one is that before Lincoln died, he was in Monroe, Maryland. And before JFK died, he was in Maryland, Monroe. Yeah.

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Why did he want the foreskins? What did that symbolize?

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Some denominations say no, but then a lot of them are like, yeah, it's fine.

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What do you mean before that? No, no, after. What's happening after? Like the time of the early church after the resurrection of Christ.

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This is the sayings gospel? Yeah.

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Gospel of Thomas is fascinating.

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Yeah.

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As obviously a non-canonical text, but something that the people of the region might've been consuming.

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Okay. In that regard, something I've seen sprout up on the Internet, a debate that I never really considered as a kid that I find fascinating. There are debates on the Internet? Oh, my goodness. Okay. Is the murder of the Canaanites. And this is something that gets brought up a lot, that basically you have this command by God to go into this land and murder all the people, men, women, children.

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Mm-hmm. And ostensibly some of them are innocent, but yet all of them need to be killed. Right. And people have kind of taken a bunch of different sides. It's like, oh, it's God justifying genocide. Right.

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What would you say in the case of children that die on the first day of life or someone with a cognitive disability where they're not able to function in society or have any type of intellectual understanding of Christ? What happens to them?

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One thing scripturally that hung me up when I was a kid is the idea of the Pharaoh of Egypt having his heart hardened by God. That God hardened his heart so that he couldn't see the truth of what was being revealed. And I'm curious why, in your opinion, God would step in to, I guess, orient him in a way that was against what God wanted.

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Oh, Roosevelt, yeah. Yeah.

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Yes.

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That's everything. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's very key. But that's what I'm saying. My worry about Trump is this distraction. And look, America, something's going to happen. Like every presidency, 9-11, right? Nine months into the Bush administration, 9-11. All of a sudden, the whole narrative is different. Under Biden, Afghanistan, it wasn't planned. It just fucking happened. The Ukraine. Trump won.

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COVID literally changed everything. You know, something.

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will happen katrina or whatever and those are the clarifying moments when the magnifying glass comes on to you and when if the magnifying glass if america doesn't like what it sees they will turn on your ass so quick george hw bush went 91 to losing the election in a span of 18 months like you can just get blown the fuck out it's your reaction to that cataclysmic it's usually when you say george hw bush lost you mean he went down the republicans lost in 2008

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No, in 1992, George H.W. Bush. George H.W. Bush had a 90% approval rating in 1991. Blown the fuck out in the 92 election. Again, 04. Was that something happened or was it Ross Perot splitting? Dude, it was just like there was an economic modest depression at the time. People felt 12 years of trickle down economics. Like, I don't fucking trust you anymore.

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Yeah. Remember Clinton ran on that like, hey, we're going to...

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cold war whatever they thought it was too yeah my point is just that america's very fickle they will turn on your ass very quickly almost every president the biggest danger don't you don't uh you read too much into your mandate and you do something that didn't people quite voted for and then you also under deliver on what you did and if you fall into that trap even in a feelings level you lose that's that's the great worry yeah that's with uh canada and

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Look, I'm very supportive of tariffs because I believe in American manufacturing. But the problem is, is that it cannot be something that's ad hoc and haphazard. It has to have a plan. We need to feel as if, yes, the washing machine will cost more. It's because my cousin is going to get a job at this factory that's going to be coming back to here.

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And when we feel as if it's like it's coming in and it's off and it's all capricious, as in like it's up to Trump's like however he feels that day coming back and forth and the markets are swinging like this. And I'm still don't have the plan yet. That's when people start to. And again, he's still got a lot of runway. He's got runway, but you need to be careful. Okay. I'm worried about Doge.

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I'm worried about the tariff stuff too. We need plans.

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Okay, so the opinion part of a newspaper is old school tradition, and it's when guys like William Randolph Hearst and similar oligarchs owned these, and they wanted to use their paper to express an opinion.

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Oh, sorry. But they actually wore oligarchs. No, I know.

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Just say he was a filthy, rich, politically connected person. Magnate. He was a journalism magnate. Perfect. OK, that's who William Randolph Hearst was. Yeah. OK, so Bezos, what he has done is he wants the Washington Post. And it's also let me explain this about newspaper economics. The op ed section is always the most popular. Like, the most read thing in the Washington Post is not the news.

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The news in and of itself has always been subsidized by something else.

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Yeah, that's right. Exactly. So, for example, the news itself, people don't want to pay for it. They want to pay for opinion. They want to pay for classified ads. The news has always been a secondary thing funded by something else.

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The problem is here is that Bezos is showing us he doesn't actually care about his business because the Washington Post subscription base are people who, what, their democracy dies in the darkness. That's why 200,000 of them canceled their subscription whenever they didn't endorse Kamala. They just lost 75,000 more by saying we're only going to – Support free markets and liberties or whatever.

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So what did they say?

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great point if you got an issue with the muslim migrants keep that same energy that's right now what we can say on this pot is that's an american struggling abroad that needs our help and we gotta go protect those americans though he's a dual citizen he's an american yeah he's happy he's american he's also romanian so it's like well which law triumphs american what's your american you're always american yeah all right yeah that's like in rome it's like he if when you have the row when you're a roman citizen nobody fucks with you that's that that was the rule yeah

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What he really means is let's fire all the woke people and let's get rid of the people who are Russiagators, which is what the Washington Post op-ed page has been for the last basically eight years. And let's promote— Bezos is a jet.

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Which is free, free market, free market, but not antitrust. You know, it's like that. That's a little not too free enough.

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It might be the truest interpretation. Well, I think let's take Bezos out of it. Let's look at all of the biggest news companies. That's what they are. For example, do you know, like, look at Bloomberg News. That's one of the most important things. Its job is to do what? It's to protect the Bloomberg terminal and the integrity of the U.S. market.

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Yeah. Which you have to take a bridge apart for. Exactly.

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And I see you walking down the street.

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Please, please, please. This is actually a return to normal, and I appreciate this. Can you explain how that— So, back in the old days, newspapers were partisan vehicles.

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No. Alexander Hamilton was a founding father. But anyway.

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All right. Let me give you an example. During the Civil War, you would have papers that are like the Kansas City Democrat and the Kansas City Republican. And it was in the name. They were party paper. And what they did is they ran news and op-eds that was like, we're fucking Democrats and fuck the other side. That is the history of the American newspaper industry. Wow.

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Now, what happened is basically you had— Founded in 1801 by Alexander Hamilton.

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I think it was the Washington Post.

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So in the past, newspapers were explicitly partisan. So I mentioned William Randolph Hearst. William Randolph Hearst was like, I want to go into the Spanish-American War. That's something I want. And so he used his op-ed and his newsmen to push that agenda. But he was very open. about it. He was like, this is my agenda. This is what I want. Later on, he wanted to keep America out of World War II.

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He would run a lot of Lindbergh stuff. That's what his agenda was. What happened is after World War II, we had this very weird moment where you had nonpartisan media, which was still partisan. But the problem is the distribution. So you had the big papers and the big networks, the big three channels, which all Americans were watching. They had to appear nonpartisan.

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And so corporations could sponsor them and reach as many people as possible.

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This idea of unbiased journalism. No, biased journalism is the most authentic journalism that has always existed. It's called the yellow journalism industry. And it was born on the streets of a great American city here in New York. You had the New York Herald. You had the New York Post. You had the New York Star. And they were all different competing both ideologies.

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And it was one not only just for attention, but it was about pushing agendas. These people were People would love, for example, the guy who loved The Herald. I'm blanking on his name. They liked him. He was not just an oligarch. He was a society figure, a Gilded Age person. People would support him. And it was about picking teams, and I think that's a good thing.

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I think it's healthy because it removes the veneer. The news was just as fake and partisan in 1960 as it was today. It's actually worse today. in my opinion. And if you think about Vietnam, James Gordon Bennett, that's right. An amazing figure. But my point is like when Walter Cronkite was seen as nonpartisan, it was easier for us to push into war in Vietnam.

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And it shouldn't take Cronkite being like, the trust has been broken. America cannot lose here or win here in Vietnam. It's like, no, we needed the grand debate instead of the manufactured consent of Which is what pushed us into all of these Bay of Pigs. I mean, this is what—they were very conscious about it.

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There was this controlled op-ed page in the Washington Post, which was nonpartisan, even though, yeah, okay. The guy who was running it, Catherine Graham's husband, is best friends with John F. Kennedy. And it just turns out that Kennedy, one of the very first stops he makes on his inauguration night—

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It's to a bunch of Washington Post columnists who later become the chief proponents and defenders of Vietnam policy, which was Kennedy's policy to keep America in Vietnam. But they were seen as nonpartisan. It's like, no, we need to remove the nonpartisanship. Partisanship is good, actually. You just need to trust—

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The illusion is so dangerous.

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Because, like I said, I mean, when all of America's news was telling us that the war in Vietnam was good and that we needed to go and find it, Americans believed that, and they signed up to send their sons and daughters. Dude, Iraq is the perfect example in 03. I mean, we did not have—if we had what we had today—

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Just based on the information, somebody like me, Glenn Greenwald, who was actually fighting this fight at the time, I'd be like, yo, yellow cake, uranium, complete bullshit. This is wrong. The outcome of this would be a disaster. America didn't even have an option on cable television.

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of course they support the roger ailes saying this is the real the real news yeah did you read that book i recommend a dude can't recommend enough the loudest voice in the room yeah roger ailes and how he understood he has a great quote which is people don't want to be informed they want to feel informed yeah that's he understood america he created fox news he created fox news that's right but then don't you have way more echo chambers and yes i think you know what though at the end

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It's like the printing press. The printing press led to 30 years of war on the European continent and mass death. It was still a good thing. We have more information. Because, yes, it led to the Protestantism. It led to civil war. It led to all of these debates. But at the end of the day, it was like the Catholic Church no longer controlling the minds of the serfdom. It led to the Renaissance.

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It led to ideas. So, look, the Internet is the printing press. We're returning to the mean. We have a new form of distribution. We can debate. How long have we been going here? Like three hours?

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we're sitting here we're fucking talking and all this would never air 45 years ago this america was locked the fuck in to bullshit the echo chamber is already staunch and again the thing is that echo chamber is 10 times worse than any echo chamber today even the most echo chambered republican is still has access to liberal media even the most echo chambered liberal still has access and can go at any time they want to ben shapir or whatever uh somebody's out there 45 years ago

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a ceasefire ukrainians can support exactly yes okay so you were saying okay so in this meeting also been to russian strippers too okay i didn't do anything didn't touch them at all right just want to let you know yeah well you probably should you should i wouldn't

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There was no option. Nothing. So you got to get a train soon. Yes.

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Like actual left-wing? Jacobin, sure. The socialist newspaper. The socialist newspaper. It's called Jacobin.

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But no, but my point is how when I was talking about Ukraine, I was like, hey, I have a real bias because I cannot tell you. I'm honestly Ukraine is probably one of my top issues like foreign policy. I cannot give you the real pro Ukraine side with the same enthusiasm that I do. I tried. I tried to do the whole steel man thing. Yeah. But I'm just not going to do it.

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If you want to hear that, go to David Ignatius. Go to Max Boot. Go to Anne-Marie Slaughter. Any of these people. These real neocons. They believe in this shit. Please go read them. Don't just listen to me. Because you need all your information. This is how you get. I agree with you. That's what I'm saying. Trust the institutions. Yes.

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So what we have in this meeting is not only all of this beef around conscription, but really what happened is that Vance started to get very frustrated. He was like, you come here to the Oval Office of the United States. You disrespect this office. The worst mistake Zelensky made is that as Trump is getting furious, Zelensky... This is the line. This was the line. He's like, you have no cards.

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Dude, it's only a 50 year old idea. It's an aberration in America. America is always been. Do we have the California Democrat, the California Republican? They're at war with their own state. How should we govern gold policy? Should we be in the Civil War? Even in the Confederacy, they had different papers being like, we need to do this. No, we don't need to do that.

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Like it's the bias and the dueling perspective. That's how it's always been. The 1950s was an asterisk in an otherwise like a country that has always been. We've always recognized that news and information in and of itself is not actually all that valuable as in X, Y and Z happened. People don't want to know that they want to go X, Y and Z happened. And what did it mean?

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And that is what the newspaper and the information industry is all about. So I'm still very optimistic because in the Internet age, it's not just about declining trust in mainstream media. It's about an explosion of a new possibility. And there'll be a lot of bullshit out there, just like the. of the printing press was mostly what? Pornography, conspiracy theory, whatever. It was starting wars.

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It was chaotic. But the net benefit was lack of control by singular institutions with their own agendas. And I think the decentralization of this will be very chaotic and it will not necessarily be comfortable, but I think we'll end up in a better place.

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Oh, the ocean.

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Yeah, that's right. He was like, don't tell us what to be afraid of. I mean, this is Trump. Trump is not only transaction. It's about respect. Apparently, they told Zelensky to wear a suit before he came. And he didn't wear it. Zelensky decided not to. Trump called him out. Did you see Trump call him out? Yeah, he goes, oh, you're dressed up. What did he say?

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You're dressed up.

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He's basically acting. He's been acting this way for three years. That's the shocking part of it is he has this false. Look, I mean, this is where I'm going to put my own bias on the table. Let's look at all of the arguments for supporting Ukraine. Number one is that we need to defend NATO. And you're like, OK, well, Ukrainians are or Ukraine's not in NATO. Yeah, I got it.

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Two, we need to defend democracy. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's a democracy in the way that any corrupt Eastern European country is. Zelensky's canceled elections. Their parliament or their constitution says they can't even hold an election during wartime. He has banned opposition parties, censored the media. I mean, it doesn't look that democratic to me.

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And actually, one of the core demands of the United States is like, hey, you need to hold an election. And he's like, no, we can't do that. We can't possibly do that. Yeah. Until even in his even in his interview on Fox News afterwards, they're like, would you resign? He's like, that is up to Ukrainians. I'm like, how? They can't. How does that work? Yeah. Three was OK.

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And this is the most sinister and the disgusting one is, well, we need to support Ukraine because we're weakening Russia, which means what? Which is that we are. forcing the Russians to pour millions of men into Ukraine and kill as many Russians as possible. And somehow that's in the national interest of the United States, is that we're weakening Russia and we're making their economy poorer.

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Here's the thing. Russia's not like here. It's also not a democracy in a sense. They don't give a shit about a million guys who get killed. Go look at their history. What always happens? The war is a disaster. It's a total shithole.

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shit show they make up for it with the vast you know population that they have they pour as many people in there very inefficiently they kill a shit ton and for some reason the population i mean they don't love it but they're not rioting in the streets in the way that i mean in america it's like dude it's part of their lore like in the soviet union they lost almost 20 percent of their population that's a foundational myth we went to their country we went to uh russia as well we did comedy and we did comedy in russia not what actually must be hard what we did in ukraine and uh

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And the advantage of that is there's like a suffering built into the culture. It's in their story. Yeah. Like their story going back to the 1600s is just invasion, is projection. All of Russian national security policy all the way back to the time of the Tsars is what? Defense through depth is vastness. Our population, we conquer as much as we can, force the population to come through.

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Do you guys ever watch the HBO's Rome? Do you know what I'm talking about?

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I mean, they've had horrible episodes. They were conquered by the Mongols that went through and devastated all the way up to Kiev. I mean, obviously invaded by the Nazis, invaded by Napoleon. Their strength is their vastness, is their population and their just capacity for suffering. Capacity for suffering is huge.

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There's a great, spoiler alert, sorry, I came up 20 fucking years ago. Where I think it was Pompeii got his head cut off by, I think it was Cleopatra or the Egyptians. Okay. And Caesar arrived and they're like, we cut his head off and they're expecting him to be happy and they're like, nobody. Yeah. executes a Roman citizen, except for another Roman citizen. That's fire. I fucking love that scene.

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And I'm talking about actual war since the Civil War. Oh, yeah. That's the closest we ever came. And what was that? Two percent of the U.S. population was killed. Remember, they got 20 percent of their population. That was. They had general orders during Stalin, the not one step back policy.

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Stalin's son was captured and he threw his daughter-in-law in prison because they said any person who gets captured, your whole family is going to the gulag. That is the DNA. Now, I don't know.

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Only men, right? They just lived through the worst conflict. I actually read a book about what Moscow was like when they thought the Nazis were about to come. And it was the most debaucherous like party that the Moscow apparently had ever seen. Like people were just housing vodka, like having sex in stairwells. And they were right. They were excited. They were there was just like, this is it.

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They're about to die. We're all about to die. And so they just it was crazy, man. It's the same way. If you read about how our guys behaved in London, the airmen in World War Two, you're like. yo, dude, this is disgusting. You're like, this is bad, man. The U.S. Army's trying to find prophylactic kits that will actually work. The entire Piccadilly Circus was a literal whorehouse for U.S. soldiers.

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Dude, this is part of the World War II. My grandma was there. My grandma was there.

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She had nice stockings. Apparently that's what they really like. Don't you dare. U.S. soldiers were paid five times the wage of a British soldier at the time. The guys had no chance. The Brits were furious about it. They're like, our invasion is here of these Yanks. They're oversexed, overpaid, and over here. That was like a huge thing.

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I like that. Yeah.

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Well, that's actually an interesting thing. So first, I think the North Koreans want battle experience because they have one of the world's largest militaries. But two is the North Koreans have tons of ammunition. They have a stockpile. And actually, this is a useful thing for geopolitics. I saw a tweet today. They're like, why- is the world take Russia seriously?

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Like smaller GDP than Texas, you know, all of this. And I was like, oh, the answer is like 9,000 nuclear weapons. It's like the same thing with North Korea. I don't even know what the North Korean GDP is. Like probably a county in Joplin, Mississippi.

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There you go. Okay. All right.

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Yeah, of course.

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No, it's total bullshit. painted over the side of the ships and then Russian oil became no name oil. Well, this is a very useful exercise in like how power works. So America, like our economy doesn't do, we don't produce anything. We're a service-based economy. We consume. And so we were like, oh, well, we'll cut the Russians off from here and we're going to fuck them over.

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And it's like, oh, Russian GDP is exploding. Their war production is incredible. They've increased year over year. Their GDP is expanding or their economy is expanding because of war production. We tried to Karen them. We canceled. No. Yeah. We literally tried to do business with Russia.

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Yeah, and they made a shitload of money. And actually, the European Union has spent more in year three just on Russian oil than they have given to Ukraine. So there's a lot of talking out of all sides of their mouth. But this is a very useful lesson for America. Guns, bullets, oil, that's the only shit that matters. That's all that matters. Oh, NVIDIA stock or what? It's bullshit. It means nothing.

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Chill, chill, chill. In a war, it means not to hold. We need this market to hold.

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We need this market to hold. There's some bad signs on the horizon. Stop it. Oh, yeah, that's interesting. What's happening? Oh, goodness. I mean, check the, what's the S&P 500? Oh, God. I don't think it's good. It's been dropping like 1.5%. Yeah, but Nvidia shows big earnings and they have a new chip that's going to do really well.

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Yeah, the S&P is flat on the month, which is not great, but it's been dropping a little bit from some of the early highs. Yeah, there's some signs that it looks like there might be a lot. Yes, I mean, don't get me wrong. It's like, we're still doing fine. I hit up my guy and I was like, are we selling?

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Crypto's in the tank. Yeah, crypto's the next guy. Okay, not really, though. It's like when Bitcoin crashes from 100 to 80, you're like, come on, bro. You know what I mean? Two months, that's kind of crazy. Okay, sure, but I'm not saying, okay, it's like, what does crash mean?

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I'm taking America. I mean, I don't even believe in dual citizenship, to be clear. I don't even think it should be allowed. Can I go one further? Yeah, go ahead. I don't even believe we need passports. Okay, why not? Oh, as Americans. We're coming home. Yeah, you're right.

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And this is also where we should be honest about the S&P, where it's like, look, it's still up 20% on the year or something like that. Don't even talk about S&P. It's fucking fine.

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What is NVIDIA right now? But you got to speak about it in the same way as Bitcoin then. Sure. Yeah, absolutely.

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Listen, I'm saying in terms of national character. For example, I've been thinking a lot about this with cars. Look, American cars, if we're being honest and if we had a totally free market, I'm buying a Chinese EV yesterday. Wait, what? Are you kidding me? They're incredible. There's this guy, Forrest Auto Reviews. He's so good. He does all these videos showing BYD, the Xiaomi cars.

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The BYD just rolled out full self-driving for even their car that costs fucking $10,000. If you buy a Tesla, FSD will cost you- No, no, no, no. I don't want these to be sold here. I don't want them to be sold here. But that's my point, is that we have to recognize our cars, even though they suck. This car industry, it's not only jobs. During World War II, what did we do?

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The Ford factory, that's rolling tanks off of there, right? That's what the Russians have. The Russians don't prioritize economic growth. They prioritize guns, bullets, and strategic autonomy. So this is also the problem with Ukraine. Ukraine does not have any of that. They're totally reliant on the United States and on Europe.

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So you're giving us the facts.

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I think he's been huffing European glue. So the thing is, is that if you look right now, so right now, literally as you and I are speaking, they're in London crafting a peace agreement, which they're going to propose to us. But this is where it's all bullshit. So France and Germany came up with a peacekeeping plan. We're like, We'll have 30,000 troops there. You don't have to do anything. No U.S.

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troops on the ground. I'm like, okay, good. They're like, but you have to pay for it. You have to provide ISR, which is intelligence support, you know, and all that. You have to do your ISR. You have to provide all the bullets. You have to pay for it. And so what are you revealing to us?

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is that France and Germany don't even have the capacity to forward deploy 30,000 peacekeeping troops in a tiny country like Ukraine. I'm saying compared to the rest of the globe. What should that tell you? These militaries are nothing. NATO's own chief says that the Russians produce more ammo in three months than all of NATO combined in an entire year. That's with the United States.

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It's like when you go to Thailand and they're like, you got to get 45 days. I'm like, what do you think I'm fucking seeing?

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United States. Zelensky is acting as if there's another option. Yes, he thinks that he can't be so naive. He is. Oh, man, I think he is. The rhetoric that's coming. Is he trying to do a deal? He wants the UK and France and Germany and all the other NATO countries to give him a security guarantee before he will provide or he will sign any ceasefire or any deal.

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But again, as I just told you guys, any peacekeeping deal signed by France or Germany is bullshit because they don't have anything. So here's the thing. Why? They're paper tigers. I heard what he said.

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No, he's actually correct about that.

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Well, it matters because Uncle Sam is the person who is signing underneath it. That's the fundamental difference.

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Okay, so let's talk about that too. I hear this a lot from the pro-Ukraine.

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You're not wrong at all. And that's why you should have shut your fucking mouth. And you should sign that minerals deal, because in that minerals deal, it was a strategic interest for the United States to have a free, a sovereign Ukraine, a business relation. For example, why do we care about Europe or Taiwan or any of these places? You think we care about fucking democracy?

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We care about the TSMC chip. in Taiwan, okay? Why do we care about Vietnam? Because they make all of our clothing. Why do we care about Germany? How many German cars are on the road? All relations between states come down to trade. That is a fundamental insight.

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The problem of the post-World War II order is what's led to this, is that we have decided, oh, it's democracy and feelings and all this other bullshit. It's like, no, the purpose of a Navy is not to- So you're saying the trade deal- Yeah.

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Bingo. The United States economy, yes.

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Yeah. Well, this is a well, that's a bigger question of whether we should even have NATO membership for a lot of these. Look, it's settled. It doesn't matter. The U.S. Senate has ratified the treaty. But there were a lot of people in the 90s when they were talking about NATO expansion into Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.

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We're like, guys, this is in the traditional not only sphere of influence, but what compelling interests does the United States have in these three countries? Like bilateral trade of those three probably does not even equal bilateral trade between us in a single province or a single state in Mexico. And see, this is the thing. We don't want to talk in balance sheet terms, and it's important.

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But coming back to your point, you're right. But here's the problem. You have no leverage. And at the end of the day, you do not matter to the United States. And this is my bias, again, but. At the end of the day, the United States has no compelling interest over who compels the Donetsk region of Ukraine. They just don't.

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In fact, all of Ukraine, even before the invasion, ranked like 50 some billion bilateral trade with the United States. That's one fourth of what we do with Brazil. If Brazil was invaded by Argentina and be like. See you. I was like, good luck. Work it out. I'll buy my coffee from Columbia.

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You're in the 51st state now. That's right.

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Well, because on that plane. Can you explain that?

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Which they did.

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They were like, hey, we have rare earths too, by the way, in Russia, which they do.

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You want Greenland. No, no, no.

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Sure.

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He's played his cards incredibly.

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No, not this. Up until this, you will study Zelensky. And I do not like Zelensky. I think he's taking advantage of the United States. He's an arrogant prick. All of this.

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The way he handled himself immediately after with the media, by convincing the West and others that there is this compelling interest, he was managed to get $100 billion from the world's superpower, more than we spent on 20 years of the Afghan National Security Forces we have sent to Ukraine in three years. Think about that. That's fucking insane.

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The greatest transfer of military aid in modern U.S. history. On top of that, he convinces all of these European nations, Germany, France, the great powers, not only to come to his defense, but to tie his borders to their own and say it is the strategic interest of the French, of the German, of the U.K. people to make sure that we're compelling.

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And, you know, in the beginning, a lot of them did support that. But, and this is where it all starts to fall apart, now we're watching... what will actually happen with a Europe led by Europeans. So when we look at the polling that's in the UK and France and in Germany, they're like support for Ukraine was sky high. Now they're like, should we continue or should we have a deal?

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In almost every country, it's flipped. So the Europeans are now in a position where they would probably have to increase military aid to their maximum capacity, give them everything not stripped down to the ground, and they would still maybe... I don't know, maybe one sixth or something like that. And it wouldn't matter to Russia because Russia just keeps drawing bodies.

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I mean, already the United States, we have given Ukraine $67 billion in military aid. That's more than every other country in the world combined, right? The Europeans are like, oh, we've given Ukraine a bunch of aid. It's like, bro, you're being a fucking refugee. Yeah, but I'm saying you could throw- You can throw $10 trillion at Ukraine and Russia will just match it with dead bodies.

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Why not? I mean, they wore their MAGA hats for Trump Jr. Did they really? Well, I mean, there's controversy around it. Why not? Well, because they're saying that they rounded up a bunch of homeless Greenlanders and gave them MAGA hats. I don't know if that's true. They say that it's not true. I don't think there's homeless Greenlanders. That's what I was thinking.

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Yeah, almost certainly. I mean, it's a little more complicated than that. I think the only thing that would really change is nuclear weapons on the ground, which is not happening. But that's actually, let's return to that. Because one of the ways that the Ukrainians often bring up why America has to support them, and not just should, is the Budapest Agreements.

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And back in the Budapest Memorandum, which was in the 90s, where they agreed to give up their nuclear weapons. And in exchange, the United States was like, yeah, we'll think about protecting it. Oh, it's not. We're going to protect. No, no. And even if we had said that, it was never ratified by the U.S. Senate.

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And this is where you have to flip it and think about the Russian justification for invasion, where they said your secretary of state said we will not expand NATO. That's true. Our secretary of state burns under George H.W. Bush. He was like, look. We're not going to expand NATO. Don't worry about it. They were like, OK, that's the position of the U.S. government. Well, what changed? They lost.

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They lost the election. Bill Clinton came into office. George W. Bush came into office. They changed the policy. But the thing is, is that the Russians are like, but you said it. And what we would say is, yeah, what you just said, the administration at the time said it.

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That didn't make it the treaty binding obligation of the United States where two thirds of the United States Senate ratified we will never expand NATO. So, no, it's not fair to say that America guaranteed. That's not how our system works, nor should it. Right. The word of the president is not a king who sets foreign policy for all time. Exactly.

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And so the Budapest memorandum, yes, it was a policy document, but it provides no obligation from the United States to lift one finger for Ukraine. And if we think about, again, where the Russians are coming in, they're like, OK, so in the post-Cold War era, you guys bombed Kosovo. Is that in NATO? Why was that a NATO operation? You guys, NATO, literally took out Gaddafi.

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You know, one of the things that the North Koreans always tell us, because we're like, hey, give up your nukes. They're like, I'm not giving up my nukes. Gaddafi gave up his nukes. You've shoved a rod up his ass and blew the shit out of his own country. What a dumb idea to give up your nukes. Don't give up your nukes. Kim Jong-un will never give up his nukes.

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I was like, there's only 50,000 of you. It's not big.

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You're absolutely right. And Libya proves that. Iraq proves that. The North Korean regime surviving to this day proves that. And Russia, its ability to invade Ukraine and, frankly, get away with most of it is what? Nuclear weapons. I don't love that reality, but it's just true.

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So then you're just going to fall apart without us. Don't fall apart. Say, we will, say, give us nukes. Okay. Yeah. You can say that. We'll just say, no. No. Next question, right? Give us nukes. You know what I would say? Develop it yourself then. If you're so great, you have all these great scientists, all this, go ahead. Nothing stops You can do whatever you want.

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Usually we do stop them. But if well, I mean, if they're trying to. I'll tell him this. If you guys want to go for it, go for it. I mean, you literally will. First of all, you're being invaded. Second, I mean, your country, their own analysts tell us that they'll fall apart in three months after the cutoff of USAID.

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This is, again, just where we have a small nation that thinks it's a great power and can dictate terms. Why do they think that? That's what I don't understand. I think it's the Europeans. I really do.

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I can't fathom. How do you not read a spreadsheet? That's what I do. I'm like, bro, look at the number of bullets coming in. I'm just a moron. I'm not even talking about the spreadsheet.

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Well, here's the thing. Does he have an interest? Yeah. In tradition, like, you know, Russia controlled vast swaths of all that territory, Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia. All of these parts were a traditional part of the Soviet or Russian Empire. But here's the thing. Three of those countries I just named are in NATO. So the interest you have to not do it is to avoid nuclear war.

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Also, Russia is a Christian nation.

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He actually does use a lot of that, though.

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Yeah, he talks a lot about the Orthodox Church and about how Ukraine is attacking the Russian Orthodox, which is true. It actually has been happening. That's my boy. They're attacking the Russian Orthodox and how it's like a defense of Russian, whatever. I don't like that stuff.

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50,000, $1 million each. How much is that? I mean, what is that? Like five, either what? Five... We're not paying anybody to be American.

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Does he tuck his tail? He refused to. He had a Fox interview immediately afterwards. He had hours to think about it. He did it live. It was four hours in between to apologize. He didn't apologize. He just said no. He's like, we had to have honest dialogue. He's huffing the Europeans. He believes that Europeans... can't protect him. He's in London, literally, as I said, as we speak.

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And the near future is they're going to propose some peacekeeping plan. America's going to say, no, why should we pay for that? Why should we continue to do it? And it'll be look, it's up to Trump, too. I mean, if I were Trump to continue weapons flowing into Ukraine when they're actively working against your policy is ridiculous. Like, oh, I think that Zelensky needs to find out

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tomorrow what reality, and again, this is my personal opinion moving from analyst, this country, its greatest victory is survival. You get to live.

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Would I accept that? No, but I'm an American citizen. We have nukes. We have the greatest military the world has ever seen. I don't get it because

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That's right. Spears of influence theory. That's what you're talking about. Exactly.

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U.K., Germany. I don't know if they're real. I mean, they have nuclear weapons, so like, you know. It buys you something, okay? And they have the, what, G7 economies. Like, they're not ridiculous and low, but they are definitely going downhill. If you can't bang on your own, you're not a real country. Okay, I agree with you, by the way. I'm totally with you. Yeah.

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But I think when you have a nuke, you can do something.

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That's right.

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You are a vassal state. Yes, you are a vassal state if we think about the old... This is the issue with the way that we talk about this stuff is that Americans, and unfortunately a lot of people, don't want to speak in reality. Is America... The rules breaks international order. Is that for the benefit of everybody else or is it the benefit of the United States consumer? Let's all be honest.

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here like let's be that's one of the things i actually love about trump trump is a mercantilist he says shit where he's like yeah we'll protect you you have to give us 500 million in minerals yeah or billion in minerals what no democracy also it's like guys oh we protect democracy but one of our greatest allies is saudi arabia we don't care we don't give a fuck we don't like

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It's like, oh, you have oil? Okay, let's go. They don't kill gay people anymore. They're promoting a lot of boxing matches. You're doing great work over there. I apologize, Sheikh Mohammed. Sheikh Saeed, please.

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And it comes down to I feel bad for the I feel bad for the people who really believe that and are now watching how geopolitics works in real time. Like the idea that the United States, who invaded Iraq for literally no reason, is going around dictating, you know, legal and illegal. That's one of my favorite things, by the way, is Russia illegally invaded Ukraine.

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I was like, what's a legal invasion? I was like, there's just an invasion. There's just an invasion. There's like, there's just a successful invasion or an unsuccessful invasion. But to return to your point, that goes to the religion. That's what I was talking about. The Atlantic religion, this idea that all borders are sovereign, that they do not change from post-World War II.

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Countries don't just invade each other. And I don't think they're wrong. The real politic answer for that would be invasion. All that is bad for business. But the point that comes down to it is what compelling interest does the United States have in continuing this war?

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not only for our economy, you know, the United States consumer probably paid an extra buck 50 for gas for two straight years because of Russian sanctions. It was a disaster for our economy. I actually think it's a huge reason Biden lost the election.

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Apparently. Yeah, yeah. You're the doge guy.

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If you think about a lot of the inflation where that came from, but even more so what we, what we know at the end of the day is that we cannot change the reality of this war without direct United States intervention. But shouldn't it be the interest of the world to not let

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but that's countries do that there's no such thing as an interest in the world that's just keep doing this well that's what stops russia well nato actually is that we have nato membership around all these other countries and they're not going to invade because we're going to nuke them but i think every other i think country in the world is like we first of all we have no obligation to do it but second what is the impact on america some deals i think buy some russian oil yeah

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And the U.S. is kind of a victim of its own propaganda. It doesn't need to be our enemy. There's no reason. Since 1991, there's literally no reason.

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It's kind of stupid.

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Well, actually, I disagree with that theory. It's called democratic peace theory is the idea that democracies don't go to war with each other. But there's also beyond that is like countries that trade and become more westernized. It's like, well, China has got a lot of McDonald's and they've actually become more authoritarian. Like the more we're not going to war with. No, I agree.

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But my point is that it's it doesn't lead to democratic outcomes per se. care if they have to. I'm done. I'm done with everybody else in democracy. Democracy's hard.

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What did I say? That I'm going viral. Oh, that you are going viral. Yes. You and Charlemagne's back and forth on Doge has been good. I've seen it everywhere. That also could be my algorithm. We're the top political analysts in the world. No offense. No, no, no. None taken. But when people want to know what's happening in America. You're the top MMA journalist. You're the top political commentator.

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We wanted

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Yes, but that's a very good example. That was when ideology trumped national interests. Ukraine, Vietnam, Iraq all have three things in common. They are wars not of national interest. They are wars of ideology. That's where the American people see through it clearly. We're good. We're nice. We want to protect and stop bad things from happening.

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That's exactly right.

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When you look at liberals and their main concern right now, they're like, America did not vote with the rest of the United Nations. I'm like, so who gives a fuck? For what? Oh, so the U.N. had a resolution condemning the invasion of Russia. I'm over all that. And they're like, oh, America did not vote. And I was like, okay, so Montenegro voted for it?

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I'm like, why should I give a fuck what Montenegro thinks? Guys, guys, guys.

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But what is that? You say un-American, where it's like, well, for example, what is un-American about Russia invading a territory which has been disputed by their own population? Because we say so. We say no, so don't do it. Really? I mean, we don't have a treaty saying that we care about Ukraine. If we did, I'd say, look, let's go for it. We have to honor our word.

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It depends. right? It depends on our relationship with Russia and how what we want out of it. I want us to reduce our nuclear weapons pointed at each other and actually focus on where the real economic growth of the world is happening in Asia. So this is a very Obama like idea. They pivot to Asia. Is that Europe is a declining continent? Empirically true.

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If you look at their economic growth versus ours, 50 percent of global GDP will be in Asia by 2030. Now, not that long ago, only five years.

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If you look at the concern that American foreign policy elite has for Germany, for France, for frankly, these countries where, you know, they're basically have chosen their social welfare state fine, but they have not backed up their defense or ability to protect themselves.

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You're the top comedian. You're the top everything. It's just too much. Now it feels like I've been bragging.

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We pay for French health care, you know, whether people like it or not, like we protect them so they can have their nice socialist beliefs or Germany or any of these economies. You said if they had to pay for their own military, they wouldn't be able to have this. Impossible. Look, Look at the way it's done. I mean, look at their militaries and their inability.

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They say this is such a compelling interest. I'm like, well, fucking fight for it then. Go ahead. You won't do it. And you think the average Frenchman will give up his health care to protect Ukraine? No. That's another reason why it's all complete bullshit. But my point is just rebalance for what's important for us.

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Right.

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They can do it in a in like a very dire situation. But I'm saying in a situation like Ukraine, it's like they're not going to one billion euro to Ukraine. It's like piss off. bro. You have nothing. What military do you have? It's a joke.

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I actually think it's kind of chauvinistic to say that we have the ability to conduct all of the affairs of the world. Like, really, what's happened? That might have been true in 1991.

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in what's called the unipolar moment when the united states was the sole superpower that's just not the case like we have a total return to multi-polarity where you have the rise of china of india of you know even russia continues to punch above its weight uh japan south korea north korea all of these countries this this idea that i think is actually un-american is that we should be conducting all of the affairs of the world instead what we should return to is a huge is to

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lose some of our hubris and actually say, OK, what's actually important to us? What are we going to do? This is the line right here. And this is traditional American foreign policy. Going back to the Monroe Doctrine, the Monroe Doctrine was you guys do whatever the fuck you want. Just don't come over here to the Western Hemisphere. This is ours. Right over here.

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And we acknowledge the great powers of Europe. And from that point forward, even in the Cold War, we're like, look, it sucks that Hungary is communist, but what the fuck are we going to do about it? Hold on, hold on.

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And that's what I care the most about. But that's I think the problem is that right now we piss all this money and influence away. For example, the United States, the blue.

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First of all, you're nailing it. I'll give you a perfect one on this. Our ambassador under Biden to Japan was Rahm Emanuel. Rahm Emanuel inserts himself into a gay marriage debate in Japan because Japan was having a debate about gay marriage. The Japanese conservative party is furious. I go, oh, the U.S. ambassador to Japan has one fucking job. How many Toyotas are we making? That's it.

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Exactly.

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Right. It's just my point. It's like Japan, third largest economy in the world. They're all gay. Our concern is. Which Japan is one thing. How do you find a gay guy? Toyota, Panasonic, any of these other guys. That's it. That's all we should be fucking caring about. Are they coming over here and saying, oh, you guys do this? No, they don't give a shit.

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My point is just let them do whatever the fuck they want to do. All right. So like I've lived in Qatar or whatever. It's like, yeah, it's a literal monarchy, an actual religious monarchy. It works for them. It's like, OK, I wouldn't want to live there. I didn't like it there, to be honest. But do whatever you want. I don't care. That's all I really think.

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That's how I feel about Japan, about any of these other countries is it's all just about us coming together. And this is the world order. This was the point of the construction. When do you have to leave, by the way? Probably like 2.30. Okay, we got some time. We have other topics.

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I watched the whole thing.

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Okay, so that's a list.

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Sure. I mean, I, well, let me disclose my bias. I've been very, I've been very against more aid to Ukraine for a settled, you know, a settlement of the conflict now for quite some time. So my bias, like totally upfront. And so seeing that all happen was very, like very pleasing to me, but I'll try and be just like neutral. So it was a 53 minute interaction.

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It was during something called a pool spray, which is so I used to cover the White House. The way that these things usually work is you have the king chairs where Trump was in that chair and you have Zelensky here. It's like the head of state chair. We usually the cameras. So like if you and I were sitting, the people who are watching, there'd just be a wall of cameras right here.

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I think it is about wars of credibility, of institutions, and of process. So something I think is- What does that mean?

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And speak to me emotionally.

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For them, it's about Elon's complete and total judgment over this. They don't trust Elon. I would say that's it. And is that fair? Yeah, I do think it's fair. I do think it's fair. Let's make that argument. What's the steel man against?

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The steel man against Doge is that you have a person who is unelected by the United States, who is a sole power over what gets cut, which violates the Constitution because the Constitution, the power of the purse is within Congress. Congress gets to decide what programs get cut or not.

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He is, according to them, illegally shutting off and doing these things and also at times has conflicts, major conflicts of interest. any of the decisions that he has made.

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The perfect example is right now. State Department was, my friend Ryan Grimm, he works with us at Breaking Points, broke a story about there was originally going to be some State Department contract awarded to Tesla for, I forget the number, it was like maybe $4 million or something.

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After Trump got elected, that contract went up to $400 million for Teslas, armed up Cybertrucks, and then they actually took the word Tesla off the website and changed it to electric vehicle. Now, Okay. It's not great, right?

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And it's supposed to just be diplomatic fineries. It's supposed to just be like, yes, Mr. President, we welcome you to our country, blah, blah, blah. For about 40 minutes, it mostly was totally chill. Even Trump was like, you guys have been very brave. If you watch a lot of this, he was very much trying to keep things under control. But there was this moment.

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Yeah, like the Charlemagne thing. I heard your argument about this. What was that? Well, I thought it was interesting where you were like, hey, if you're a cop and you come to me and I'm like, yo, don't look in the basement. You're like, there's some shit in the basement.

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Yeah. So that's what we feel like when we see this. Yes, yes, you're right. And I think it is important to talk about it in that way. And that's where it comes back to process. So like you said, we've got Doge, which is kind of unilaterally deciding what and what is not gets to be spent according to them.

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And so one of the interesting things I took away from your thing with Charlemagne, and if I were Charlemagne, what I would have said is, Andrew, it's fine to look, but they're not looking, they're actually acting. And the acting is the part where I think a lot of the liberals are, I think, correctly upset. I mean, let's be honest, like if George Soros or whatever was deciding what is what and not

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is getting spent.

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Yeah. They're like, we need January 6th again. You know what I mean? Like, it would be watched.

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Congress to make the cuts. If you want to do this, like, and this Remember when I said process? That is actually a huge part of it because the real problem that they have is the unilateral decision making, the conflict of interest possibly being over. I mean, there have been a ton of shit like that, like the NLRB and other things. I sound like Crystal right now.

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She's got a list like 15 pages long of all this conflict of interest. And you know what I have to say? I go, yeah, you're right. I was like, you know, empirically, this is not good. Like when you look at it in that way. And now if he had sold all of his Tesla stock, if he had actually offloaded all of this and he was still doing it now, I would have a lot more trust in that.

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And what happened is that is that Zelensky hates J.D. Vance for a variety of reasons. Well, Back when J.D. was a Senate candidate, so 2022, he had a viral moment where he was like, I don't care about Ukraine at all. He said that on camera, became a huge controversy, obviously became a villain inside Ukraine.

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And I think most people would do. And I think, I don't think that members of Congress and others should be allowed, anybody in the government should be allowed to be able to even have the appearance of corruption because of the way that corruption is now so in bedrock into,

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I think that's the part where maybe you guys can help me understand it because I don't – first of all, it drives me fucking crazy when Elon's in the cabinet room wearing a fucking T-shirt and hat and everybody else is in a suit. It's so corny. And he's standing in a room where – if you guys have ever been in the cabinet room, the president's chair is bigger than everybody else's chair.

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No person ever is supposed to be higher than the president. There's a rule. There's a famous scene in the West Wing. It's like when the president stands, nobody sits. And in my opinion, when the president sits, nobody should stand. Why is Elon standing? Why is he? It just to me, it's like this is where the libs are correct, dude. Like there's some weird shit going on here. I don't really get it.

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I don't like it. I can tell you. It's my fault.

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You have it.

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You see this all the time. When he's in the barbershop or whatever, he's a genius because what he does is he'll take your problem and he'll turn it around into the campaign. And he's like, that's what the greats always do this, is that they take the question. Listen to what people are struggling with.

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He's a genius. But then... What they do is they take you seriously, but not literally. So my favorite moment in a debate is when some lady in the 92 campaign asked Bill Clinton about the national debt. And it's like she didn't really know what she was talking about. And he's like, she's talking about the economy. He's like, we've had four years of trickle down economics. It hasn't worked.

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You know, all this. He didn't ask her the same question about the national debt. But the point is, is that he's like, she's talking about the economy. Like he can see the truth, the truth behind it. Exactly. And that's what Trump, I think, is very good at. That's what all the greats are very good at. And yeah, I mean, continue like the Elon thing to me. I and this will make me very unpopular.

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But he's also been kind of a chief opponent of more military aid to Ukraine or what I would call is like the Atlantic religion, like this idea that the United States and Europe are inextricably linked, that the invasion of Ukraine is not only an attack on democracy, it's an attack on America. So that's kind of the Eurocentric Atlantic mindset. Got it. Got it. Pretty reasonable.

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I think it's becoming a problem. I think that this liberal – no, because right now there's a narrative online, which is, in my opinion, cope, is that a lot of these liberals – What does cope mean? Like cope as in like they're coping that – they're coping – Living in denial. They're getting an excuse. Yeah, they're living in denial.

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There's a cope right now from the right that all of these liberal gatherings are astroturfed. And you know what? You're right. But the thing is that you actually – There's a lot of terms that some people might not know. Okay. So an astroturf is essentially a fake – Yeah. Fake grass. Right. So like what it means is that a large is people are being paid to protest. I do not think that's true.

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I think this has happened in the past. This has happened in the past and is an integral thing. But that's actually what a lot of liberals said about the Tea Party back in 2010. They're like the Koch brothers are paying for it. I'm like, yeah, bro, but you can't just pay people to show up and be angry. And you still got blown the fuck out in the 2010 election. Elections.

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What I'm worried about is the perception, perhaps correctly, that Trump is not completely in control of his own presidency. And we do see some of that, like in terms of the priority. The priority right now is not only with Doge, it's like the media capture around. around this Elon as the force, where I think it should be on Trump.

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And Trump has, in my opinion, a 10 times better political understanding of America. Like, I think if his narrative of the election was about immigration and it was about the economy, what I worry about right now for Trump is he's absorbing all of this pressure where Elon is, you know, slap shot, cutting this, bringing people back. By his own admission, I'm not making this up.

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Like, he's like, we fired people who were doing Ebola. We brought them back. Right now, they just fired a bunch of people from NOAA, the National Oceanic Administration, which those are guys who fly into the hurricane and be like, it's a category four or whatever. And it's like, dude, I've seen politics in the past. Like the most dangerous thing a politician can do is misinterpret their mandate.

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So the most recent example we have is 2004. George W. Bush, the last Republican to win the popular vote. Republican. He wins that popular vote for one reason. Keep us safe. Iraq, 9-11. You know what he does? Let's privatize Social Security. He's like, yeah, the American people voted for me. I want to privatize Social Security. Blown the fuck out in the 2006 midterm election.

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Not only that, Katrina. And what I'm worried about for Trump is, dude, even if it's not your fault, if there's a natural disaster and the Dems can point to Noah getting, you're about to get fucking crucified, dude. Yeah. Same with, you know how lucky they are that crash happened in the first week of the Trump administration?

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Can you imagine if that happened a year from now after some doge cuts or whatever with the FAA? They would be destroyed. So they will be responsible. I am very worried for them that they're hitching their entire political reputation and the most critical part of your presidency, the first hundred days.

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If all history of a presidency is almost certainly the first 18 months, and of those 18 months, always the first 100 days. We're about 37 days or whatever when you're talking right now. It's not that much longer to go. And in that first 100 days, Elon has been the number one story.

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If I were Donald Trump or whatever, I would want my number one story to be historic or whatever executive action on inflation. I'd be having inflation press conferences every single day and Tom Homan and mass deportation. That's all I'm doing. I'm just talking about Mexico. I'm talking about shutting down the border. I'm having Tom Homan on television every single day.

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Not to say he isn't, but he's drawing away. He's taking control of the narrative. Elon has taken control of the narrative.

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So I thought that for a time. Tell me why you think that.

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very true i actually thought that for a while i was like maybe elon is the whipping boy to like sit there and absorb but i'm very worried that trump and lose this is why you were asking about steve bannon there's a reason dude i think bannon is the smartest person in the mega movement and wow he's a person oh absolutely i mean talk that shit absolutely 100 he was mega before real quick before i get off this if if i felt like these were trump's ideas to cut these things

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And that's why I don't agree. Can I double click on that quickly? Because there's a very important... I like that. I love that. Indians, we talk tech. We're talking tech. You said that earlier. I did say that earlier.

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Well, I meant like expand. You might be too young.

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This is why I was talking about Bannon. There are multiple theories which intersect. What am I thinking? Venn diagram. The Venn diagram is that Elon is part of libertarian right. Cut the government to the end of cut the government.

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Now, Bannon would say attack the administrative state to replace the administrative state, as in the government itself should be the power, the determination of the path of the country, of business, of breaking up the centers of gravity that are non-governmental powers, Facebook, Google, etc., Elon is somebody who's very against something like that, much more like an anarcho-capitalist.

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And on top of that is traditional conservatism, which agrees a little bit with this, but is also obsessed with the religious right, constitution, etc. So right now, my fear is that MAGA— While it definitely agrees with the administrative state here is that they are losing the capacity to make their argument that no, actually.

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And this is what Trump and J.D., I think, believe is that the government itself should have power over the direction of the country, should have the ability to tell social media companies don't censor as opposed to having a billionaire buy it. Like, that's a nice workaround. But look, I mean, Zuck went on Rogan and said, oh, we're not going to fact check anymore. I did a post about Lyme disease.

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It got fact checked the next fucking day.

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Right. Yeah. And, you know, there's no enforcing mechanism within that. Only the government can fix that problem for me or for all Americans. So that's where I would say it's like there's important theories of government, which are very at odds.

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I would say it's quite reasonable, but, you know, that's that they would say otherwise. And that's fine. It's a democracy. But anyway, so put that all together. J.D., I think, was making a statement about bringing peace. And it was at that moment that Zelensky really you could see him lean forward the way I am right now. And he's like, let me ask you a question, J.D.

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It don't matter how many fucking, which is not even going to happen, which is of course, but neither is anything that Bannon says. Oh, well, I don't think that's true. I mean, like what? Like, what does he say that's not going to happen? What's going to be executed? Well, what about mass deportation, dude? Like, what about, like, Trump literally ran on that. He could do it if he wanted to.

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Yeah, of course. No, no, no.

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She outran Biden in her district. I interviewed or on our show, not me, but our team, we interviewed a ton of AOC Trump voters and they were like, yeah, I trust them both to fight for the working class. I thought it was actually fascinating. So

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And that's when I was like, oh, shit, because, well, first of all, J.D. was calling him Mr. President. He's calling him J.D. He's got a lot of hatred there.

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I agree with you.

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Look, they say a lot. There are political realities that are huge problems for Democrats. Number one, rich white people are now Dems, right?

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don't forget either zelensky came to uh pennsylvania and as jd called for josh chapiro yeah not only that he gave an interview here on u.s soil attacking jd vance saying i forget you might be able to find it mark he either said he was too radical or something like that so zelensky's had it out for jd for a long time i love your comfort telling mark to go look some shit last time you know soccer's making money we

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Absolutely. It's pretentious. What I was going to get to is when I say rich white people, I mean a very specific class where one of the number one determiners of how you vote and party ID is for your college degree. So if you attend a four year college degree institution, which also correlates very much with income, then you are much more likely to be a Democrat.

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And that's why, you know, even rich white is not exactly the right term because we all know blue collar trucker millionaires down in Florida. They're They're fucking Republican as shit, right? But these guys did not go to college necessarily, and they have very different cultural attitudes. I think I talked about this the last time I was here.

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Charles Murray, one of my favorite books of all time, is called Coming Apart. And it's exactly about how Americans with college degrees have concentrated themselves in something called super zip codes. You know, the Whole Foods Index. It's like if you have a Whole Foods, you're much more likely to vote for a Democrat. If you have whatever, generic or Aldi, right?

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You're much more likely to vote Republican. What's happened is that America is culturally separated probably more than ever before. Are we all watching White Lotus? I am. I love White Lotus. That's actually a signifier of like you're out of touch, right? The most popular show in the country is ACIS, all right? Or Landman. Landman. Oh, my God.

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Okay, I love parts of Landman, but dude, what a fucking disaster. We could talk about that. But there's a perfect example. It's like some people... It's elitist. Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't think women act that way. Maybe that's just me. I genuinely... Why?

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It's like... They're like... It's like a... Billy Bob, you need your...

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Yeah, right. Most popular show in the country. So what the fuck do I know? But like my point is exactly about the cultural separation is why it's hard for Democrats. And I think even for AOC, AOC and them may speak in the language of the identity politics and also hold class politics. And what I really have come to believe is that we live in a cultural moment. So there is a... So previously...

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2020, what I'm fascinated by that election, the highest turnout in modern history. Equivalent turnout not seen since like decades. And if we read about other high turnout elections in American history, it was in something called the Age of Acrimony. That's a book I really recommend. What does that word mean? Acrimony. Acrimony is, acrimonious would mean like tension, fighting.

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It's a very, it's a- Lacrimizing means crying in Latin, so it comes from Latin. An acrimonious place would be, it's all about, it would be all of us yelling at each other.

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Age of Acrimony is the 1890s, and unfortunately, that was also when? The Gilded Age. Now, why was America all up in arms at that time? Bro, it wasn't really about class. That's when all the rich people really took advantage. It was basically like, should black people have civil rights or not? That was like the number one animating issue of the South.

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There's an entire thing called Southern Populism, which is basically just like whipping up poor white people against blacks so that you can prop up a new plantation class Massive, rich people from the post-Civil War. And even in the Northeast, like where we are here, that's how the robber barons and all of them came to power. And they funded a lot of this culture warfare and benefited from it.

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And it wasn't until Teddy Roosevelt and the progressive era started that we said, no, the real problem here is combination, is all of these standard oil trusts taking advantage of us. And that was a complete reverse of the way things work.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Right.

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These guys came in. That's what I'm saying the Dems should do. I agree, but it's very difficult because the problem is- They're in the fucking pockets. That's what is difficult. Well, not only pockets. It's not only they're controlled, but they speak in the language of exactly the type of people. Gay people. They speak-

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Everyone should go watch AOC's 2020 DNC speech. She was like, for black, indigenous, for land acknowledgement, BIPOC.

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I'm calling Tupac BIPOC from now on. If you see him in a ballet recital, that is BIPOC. What is BIPOC? Oh, Black Indigenous People of Color. Have you not heard of this, man? Come on. This is old school. This is old school acronym. I have never heard about that. Black Indigenous People of Color. That's right. It keeps people like Akash and I out. Fair enough. And Mexicans.

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oh yeah i thought it's not about us huh i thought we were people of color it's black indigenous people only we're not yet it's only no it's only by pox it's not what's a black indigenous person of color no it's saying black and indigenous people of color as in like it's a specific it's a way to keep people like us out like the asians and the mexicans it's a divisional of it it's like a division yeah so yeah

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As Indians, our natural state is to tell you what to do.

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Yeah.

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And they need credibility. Now, where do you get the cred from? That's the problem is that I think that AOC and a lot of these other people are so, you know, these statements in the past, this is what fucked Kamala. Kamala has been so fucked from those 2019- That's a good point. We need a healthcare for all illegal immigrants. I'm like, yo, why don't we just start with healthcare for Americans?

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You need Luigi. Why don't we just start here?

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That's why I think the next Democrat has to come from fucking no. I want to know what you guys think. Stephen A.

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Oh, man. Zelensky calls Vance too radical, suggests that he needs to study World War Two. Yeah. So that was September. That was right before the election. And they start bickering basically over the terms of the 2014 ceasefire. And it was then that this all starts to get very, very contentious.

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100%.

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Well, there's no ceasefire yet. So it's called the minerals deal. So over the last, let's say, couple of weeks or so, the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besson, went to Kiev basically to negotiate this long-term minerals deal. The terms of the deal are, it's kind of complicated, but like basically it would give the United States rights to Ukrainian rare earth minerals and U.S.

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Stephen A., do you think he has a chance? No. I think he has a chance. He wants it. He's real. He's coming on the show. He wants it bad. He's coming on the show. He wants it bad, but no chance. Okay.

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I just don't think that... He doesn't have the same baggage, dude. Whoever comes next, it has to... Obama came out of nowhere because he didn't vote for Iraq. You have to have somebody who has got credibility. Or you have to have somebody who doesn't give a fuck. Look at the amount of baggage Trump has. Let me take away no chance. Yeah, he has a chance. He has a chance.

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I need to see some credibility.

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That's a good point. All politicians need this. You need a love of the game, dude. And Steven has the love of the game. I mean, think about it. You want to give up your wife and your children's future to be in a Secret Service bubble. Do you know how narcissistic you have to be to actually pursue this? You have to be kind of fucking crazy. I won't do another podcast a week.

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companies would effectively have a monopoly over that. In exchange, there would be a interest from the United States in a free and a sovereign Ukraine that would not be attacked. Now, Zelensky wants something called an explicit security guarantee. So if you attack us, we start we start bombing you. Exactly. So he wants his full blown NATO membership. That's not going to happen.

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That's what I'm saying.

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And that's normal. That's what normal people do. I wouldn't do it. But having spent some time around these people, like the burning need for attention. You need a black hole inside your chest. Yeah. That can never be filled. And when you read all these guys, Clinton, you're like, oh, he had four stepfathers. They used to beat the shit out of his mom. And what did he need?

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He needed affirmation from women, from people. So he's always running. Freshman year, he runs for president. JFK, same thing. He's like, watch all this insanity at home and all this. He needs women the way that his father needed women. He needed the love of the people as the second son to the first son. His dad wanted him to be president, right? His dad wanted the older brother to be president.

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say that? No, that was JFK.

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And then you moved to Kennedy. I was still on Clinton.

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If we're being honest with Trump too, like Trump's entire desire is what? Please his father and his mother, right? It's like that is that Oedipal like need is like deep.

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deep yeah yeah what about i think steven has that what about john stewart oh i wouldn't do it but i i would love it i think he's brilliant and i think he's a great critic i don't know if he has that i don't know if he has that same love of the game and i mean again we have to think about what are you giving up you're giving up everything you will give up everything forever john is a great communicator but i don't think that he has that same desire to play i mean the politics is all

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also a coalitional sport you have to say something and then meet with somebody who totally disagrees with you and then go on a stage and be like we're the best friends ever right like that requires kind of some self-hatred and like some weird shit to do like and absorb all of that and i think john is almost too honest and like too good of a guy and that's why that's why he has our trust he has i love john trust that we need but you're right he might not have that deep black hole yes

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He might not want it enough. Maybe either. I mean, and actually- No, he could win.

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I think he wins. The Democratic nom, yes. Yeah, that's different. Actually, even then, I'm still not quite sure. You need a fighter. Look at the liberal energy right now. Frankly, I kind of make fun of them because they're like, these guys are going viral from town halls. They're like, get up there and get yourself arrested in the Department of Education.

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I'm like, bro, what the fuck is that going to do? What are we doing here, man?

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because it would mean Article 5 get triggered. That would obviously bring the United States into a nuclear war. He's willing to settle, of course, settle for an explicit U.S. guarantee over what I think Ukraine controls now, although he's never even said that. That would be a concession for him. So this was supposed to be a meeting of fineries where we're like, yep, we're here.

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done i do that's the shit trump does when trump is in a debate and he just gets you oh john by occupation yes we'll do that a lot of these guys when john wants to when when remember when he destroyed was it jim kramer that would yeah oh my god that is the most like devastating takedown was like uncomfortable yeah he was like almost crying yeah he became the joke after yeah he is i mean well yeah it's a joke but still like

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It was like the moment where everyone realized, oh, wow, this guy. Exactly. I mean, look, I like John. I think he could do well. Stephen, to me, reads what the liberal base wants. Another. Oh, by the way, when I said the Democratic base, I didn't get to finish. It's also old black people like elderly black people are the absolute like most loyal people to the Democratic Party.

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Remember, they showed up for Jim Clyburn and Joe Biden. They saved Joe Biden's ass in South Carolina. They They're the people who gave Obama the presidency after he won in the Iowa caucuses, basically put him on the path to victory. So I think Stephen embodies their like want to fight. And like the fight is the same thing for Trump.

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Like Trump animated the Republican base and all of these working class whites were like he's standing up for us against these corrupt Ivy League fucks who I fucking hate. Yeah. So his mere existence, his occupation of the Oval Office is enough for me to see these people scream, to tire, to go out to the streets.

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You know, it's the Eric Cartman licking Scott Peterson's tears, you know, from South Park where he's like, oh, Scott, I'm licking your tears. He's like licking his tears. I forget. Scott Tederman must die. It's a great South Park episode. I don't watch it. They make fun of black women. Bro, bro.

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i just that's that's what trump is to me and like yeah this is part of the problem for the democrats is when you have a group that is explicitly hatred of your leaders of your call of the cultural elite of which you are one no matter what you think you have a huge messaging problem that's part of the reason why i think that steven could be powerful though because he's not connected to that in the same way and he gets some of the sports fans from the other side dude

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We're here to work together. We're here to work towards peace. Zelensky just loses it over a couple of things. One was Trump being like, this guy can't even say anything about peace with Putin. Which, you know, I mean, let's give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt and all this. His country's been invaded. He's been at war. His people are being killed. So that's probably a lot to swallow.

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Like stupid shit.

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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wow wow and and he does want it he wants it he said something he has the fire yeah more than when i see his eyes twinkle when he's going at sean hannity i'm like this fucker he loves the game and like he's just like trump all the greats that they live for those moments like clinton said the most depressed he ever was when he had to leave the white house like that's who they are yeah we need to stop at a red light for the first time like that's that's

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That's what it takes.

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I had to get my dick sucked by the intern. That was fun. I gave him a peach. That's fine. He's like, I'd walk in a room. They wouldn't play Hail to the Chief. I didn't know what was going on.

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That's what they, that's who they are. And listen, they're great. You know, that's why we need them. We need somebody else to absorb all this bullshit. The rest of us want to go to our daughter's gymnastics class.

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Yeah, that is. Wow. I think Steven has that. And that's why when I look at – and Kamala, of course, never had. No. She had the narcissism and all of that to pursue it, but she didn't have – She wasn't a star. She just was – she couldn't convey that. She couldn't combine that, I guess, for greatness.

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She'll never make it and rip in. Who else? Is there anybody else, any other outsider that's interesting? I would have made a case for Dean Phillips, the guy who ran against Biden in the primary, only because he has the same thing Obama had in 2002. So in 2002, Obama, fucking nobody, literally gives a speech outside the state Senate against the Iraq war.

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Dean is the only establishment Democrat who can credibly say, I called out Biden's age before it was obvious to the world. Because he ran against Biden in the New Hampshire primary. He's made some weird moves since then. The other thing is, Dean is filthy rich, so that helps, right? You can self-fund a campaign. You can get your name ID out there.

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But again, he's the same Obama thing of, I told the truth when it was uncomfortable. He didn't even run for Congress again. He lost his political future and got blown out in the primary on a single message of, we cannot win with Biden. And he was empirically correct. So I think Dean, I mean, I don't know if the Democrats will reward him in the same way. But Buttigieg, I mean, he wants it.

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But the thing is, is that from a pure diplomatic point of view, there's a template for all of this. The King of Jordan was here two weeks ago. Yeah. him and Trump are huge differences over Gaza, right? Trump controlling Gaza. And Trump says all this, oh, we're going to control Gaza. Yeah, Jordan, they're going to give in. I mean, that Trump-Gaza IG post was nuts. I mean, it was wild.

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He's desperate. He has the need. He has the black. I like Buttigieg. But his problem is he's he's got the baggage, dude. He's got that 2020 primary stage. I do. Raising my hands for illegal health care and all this. It's like that stuff is just cancer.

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Well, you have the appearance of a gift. Have the appearance of. On Fox News. You know what? You're right. He loves the game too. He loves to go on Fox. He likes to combat with Sandra Smith or whatever. He's smart. He has the appearance of smart, but yes. And that's important. That's important. Okay.

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the mayor okay stop derailing the real point because you got to defend new york go to the real point he forgot it he forgot his real point the appearance of intelligence i actually do think it would be nice to have like shit libs stand up for their city because there is like this weird because i mean you guys notice this i'm sure what's a shit like just like somebody who's uh you just call him a shit

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No, not him. I guess what shit lit to me is like the classic, the pink hair, the pussy hat, like that. But for me, it's like there is something annoying.

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I mean, doesn't it annoy you when some guy in like Alabama is like, man, crime in New York is out of control. And you're like, dude, shut the fuck up. Every time I go on Rogan, I have to tell him, hey, New York is still dangerous. It's always been dangerous. Yeah. I mean, it's also not that dangerous. Empirically, it's just like not that dangerous.

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Yeah. Fair enough. If you live in a suburb, sure. But any city is dangerous for anybody who lives in a suburb. But that's what I'm saying. Like the Delta is minimal. Yeah, absolutely. I totally agree. My point is just, I do think there would be something people need to stand up for America cities.

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Cause I think what's unfortunate right now is that a lot of Republicans have like PSYOP themselves, especially younger guys. Like they don't want to come move to a city anymore. And I'm like, no, like the city is the greatest place that you should move to. That's where commerce connection. That's where you're going to meet everybody. You're young. You can meet your wife, whatever.

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Like that's where you can get shit done. You can go out, you can have a good time. This is where shit happens. This is where you can. Yeah. This is where you compete against the best of the best. That's why I moved here. You guys all did the right thing. I want somebody to stand up, and this is almost a liberal, but I want someone to stand up for fucking America's cities. Like Chicago.

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What the fuck? Even the guys with the women with beards, you didn't see that? Yes, those women with beards, I think, were great. I mean, it's a very progressive Gaza. That's right.

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I'm doing it right now. You just called me a cop. No, no, no. I'm saying it's a good thing.

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Instead of being like, actually, crime statistics is like, no, bitch. Don't be a pussy.

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Exactly. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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All right. So what happened? But the king sits there, you know, it's all diplomatic fun. And then afterwards, he releases a statement. We had great discussions, but and he just lays out his terms. So that's an idea of contentious meeting U.S. ally. But Jordan, you know, at the end of the day, we're seeing a show. shit ton of USAID. We're a major guarantor of their security.

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when you're like your whole existence appears to be shit on everything that is of my existence i also think it might be education like there's this guilt that is like in ingrained in you in the college system right like america's bad you know it's like the existence of the country's bad like the things that we do are awful and there's like this thing that gets embedded in within you whereas like a working class kids or whatever built with much more patriotism both in the home and probably just around like the way that they think about things like yeah we do bad stuff but it's a great

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Well, a lot of it is also about this need for control. That's where I think – you were talking about how the right wasn't cool in the mid-2000s because they were trying to tell people what to do. The modern right has basically become a socially libertarian right.

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I mean, I don't think he likes when I say this, but for years I've been like, I think Dave Portnoy is one of the most important political figures in the country. He would love this. Go on. No, he would not.

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I don't think he likes it because I think what I always say is like barstool republicanism is the new basically wave of conservatism in America, which is you do what you want to do, but don't fucking tell me how to speak. Right. Because I think Dave would love that. And I don't know. I'm not sure. Republican and Democrat. He doesn't want it to. say Republican, but they are Republicans.

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I think you're right. That guy could be president. The thing about Portnoy, Barstool, whatever, is it's about saying, fuck you to the man. And in the 2000s, the man was George W. Bush in the church trying to tell us, or gay people or whatever, not to get married. Now it's, oh, you don't know BIPOC? You fucking racist. You're not just racist. You can't just not be racist. You have to be anti-racist.

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You can read this stupid fucking book by this grifter, Ibrahim Kendi, and all this other nonsense, right? And America is very socially libertarian because we're not really religious anymore. And so now we're like, oh, I'm going to live my life like all the grill dad conservatism. There's a lot of different words for it.

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But it's like just fuck off and don't tell my kids about transgenderism or whatever at age seven. And I think that like barstool kind of – the brand exemplifies what I'm saying, which is saying fuck you to the cultural elite and their success –

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Zelensky just can't take it, and he breaks down. So you can even see his posture. He starts going at J.D. both over a ceasefire, and he starts questioning basic facts. So the fact that really set Zelensky off is when J.D. said, you are pressing your own male population into forced conscription and Because you don't have enough manpower on the front lines. That is an objective fact.

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That's literally who we are.

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Okay, so I want to talk to this guy. You should have him on. I would love to have him on. I'd love to go on his show. His co-author is named Derek Thompson. Fuck that dude. Fuck him. No, no, no. He's got a great podcast. No, no, no. Shout out.

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That's who we are.

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You got to do some of it.

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I wouldn't say that, man. I actually am not like the real. That's my problem with Doge is I feel like the whole Doge thing is not really how it was sold.

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There's no wall. Health care. But the problem is, I go, OK, what about illegal immigrants? And I go, is it going to cover transgender? Is it going to cover abortion?

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I think tax the rich. Call this man. I think tax the rich would be. See, I actually think his is better because it's tangible. His eggs are a dollar. As opposed to tax the rich. It's been too coded. They've been crying about it for years.

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Get out of it. That's what you just said.

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It's that simple.

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The average age of the Ukrainian military is somewhere between 40 and 50 years old, which is insane. That's like late stage Nazi Germany fighting in World War II. That's the Civil War, the Confederate military, the Confederate armed forces at the siege of Petersburg. Who's left? Yeah, exactly. That's actually a key point.

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Well, I would say housing is number one. I actually think what you were saying, mortgages or something like that. I'd be like, all mortgages are 2% from now on. J.P. Morgan, fuck you. Done. Yeah, exactly. People would be like, what? Figure it out. Figure it out. No, that's not possible. And Jamie Dimon's going to be on CNBC and be like, well, actually. Hey, why don't you shut your ass up?

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He was a celebrity. Well, he lost. Yeah, he lost. Well, he was part of that fringe party. He became nationally famous. He had nothing else. I didn't even live in New York. I know about this guy. He was a homeless guy.

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I think you're absolutely right.

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Yeah. Wait, which one? I mean, not exactly. Andrew Yang? Andrew Yang.

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Wait, are you going to get Cuomo? You got to get Cuomo. Oh, is he running again? Dude, he just announced yesterday. You got to get him on. Oh yeah. I would love that. That would be fucking incredible.

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Andrew Cuomo.

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Remember, the Ukrainians refused to drop their draft age from I think it's 25 or 27. I'm not exactly sure. There's a whole generation of 18 to 25 year olds or 27 that are not currently eligible for the Ukrainian draft. And it's because it's massively unpopular in Ukraine. So out of both sides of their mouth, they're like, we're total war. We're throwing everything we got this.

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I have no idea. Come on, man. Just hit backspace. The best term.

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Yep. Tate brothers coming back to the West. Yes. Shout out the West.

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On the other side, they're like, well, we're also preserving our prime age male population to repopulate the Ukrainian state in the future. So they're not really throwing everything that they do have here. And in fact, previously, one of the U.S. demands was, hey, you guys got to drop your fucking draft age down to 18.

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The reason they don't want to do that is, A, the guys don't want to fight because they've watched probably a million or so people die.

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I think so. Yeah, I honestly think a lot of Democrats should listen to this. And if you're a Democrat or whatever out there, you should send it to people. Oh, Pat Ryan. You know what's also funny?

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And here's the thing.

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get killed is b they're just gonna flee i mean uh if you guys go so i was in hungary and in budapest my guide we walked past the four seasons hotel and he's like you see all these license plates it was like ukraine ukraine ukraine ukraine ukraine these are all filthy rich ukrainians who've been living in the four seasons gresham palace in hungary until i go to vienna and same thing uh my guide is like our strip clubs have never had better business they've been just through

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Bro, think about how much content is out there. Exactly.

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That's interesting. I think he's got too much baggage. French laundry is just so fucked.

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He's got the same problem. Can you explain that to everybody who doesn't know? Oh, sorry. He dined at the French, which is like one of the three-star Michelin restaurants. I think it's Thomas Keller, right? Yeah, he dined at the French Laundry. He was indoor dining when all of the rest of California had non-indoor dining. During COVID, it was a huge scandal, rightfully.

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Welcome home. They're like the new Bernie Griner.

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It was ridiculous to shut down all these businesses. I think shit like that, he reads to me as too elitist. He's got too much of the baggage, and he's also trying too hard. He just started his new podcast. I'm like, ugh. He gives me the fucking ick, dude. Like, you know, with the I agree with with how desperate he's contorting himself. It's just too much.

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That's why, again, I come back to my it has to be an outsider. So it's not the way Trump broke the Republican Party has to come from outside. It's Obama.

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They're afraid. And that's the funny thing about it. People have done Rogan. I'm like, dude, he's not going to attack you. He's going to fucking talk to you and try to understand. He let Fetterman talk, and that guy can barely fucking talk. Like, what?

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Maybe.

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I don't know. To me, he's like the costume of the working class.

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I'm glad you felt that way.

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Here's what happened is a bunch of conservative influencers or whatever were at the White House. They were given binders that said the Epstein files on them. They come out of the White House. They're photographed, and tweets start going around of them holding up binders that say the Epstein files. People are like, hey, hold on a second. Why are you giving this to some conservative journalist?

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He's like, these Ukrainians have been throwing money around. They don't want to fight. I mean, a huge portion of their population is gone. So there's all of that came to head when J.D. was like, you're forcibly conscripting people. Empirically true. There are videos of people, dude, sadly, even people who are mentally retarded, who have been pressed into service. Probably the strongest.

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This is supposed to be just posted online for everybody, right? So then they were defending it. The other thing is it starts to leak out that everything in there is already publicly available information. The only new thing that came out of the Epstein files was a claim by the attorney general that the FBI is currently covering things up. But, like, that's just a claim. That's not a file, right?

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So there's redacted info. They actually redacted some stuff which is publicly available already, which is less fucking hilarious. So, like, in some ways, there's actually less information. Wow. In this – and they also – the House Judiciary Committee, GOP, posted a link being like, here's the Epstein files. And it was a literal rickroll, like a link to rickrolling.

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And it was like, dude, we're talking about children who were sex trafficked, like a dangerous pedophile. Like you're turning this into a meme. And the whole point is it's not a meme. It's actually like a sick – If you're a professional comedian, you can joke about it. If you're the House Judiciary Committee, you're like, this is actually serious. This is real shit. So what does all this shit mean?

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First of all, I'm starting to doubt whether the Epstein file is real, whether it even exists. At this point, why would the FBI... I mean, they burned all the JFK stuff. They burned a lot of the UFO stuff where they've covered it up. Is it even in physical format? Can it be released? But also, do we also... I think we need a lot of... Oh, we already know a lot of what we need to know.

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That the Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak, was, like, sleeping in this house multiple times. That Bill Clinton's flying on this guy's jet. That Bill Gates is asking this dude for marriage advice or whatever. Why did Epstein have the connection to get Bill Gates a Nobel Prize? I'm like, I think we know.

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The only thing that needs to be declassified is some of the intelligence connection, which they admitted was part of the reason that they pushed through the 2007 plea deal with Epstein. And so... Anyway, my Epstein files is get Alex Acosta, who was the DOJ, the U.S. attorney, and then the Secretary of Labor, who resigned over this. Let's sit him down. We give him immunity.

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And we're like, what actually happened? Who called you from the CIA? Because he gave a quote back at that time where he said, intelligence called me and told me. Mossad or CIA? Nobody knows. It could be CIA, RBI, Mossad. Nobody knows. What is the quote?

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Oh, shit. With Epstein. That's what he said that on the record. So we give Alex Acosta immunity. We go, look, you have total immunity. Just tell us what happened. And Ghislaine, we need to get. Ghislaine, same thing. We're like, look, you're already locked up for life, whatever. And all of that, you have immunity at this point from prosecution. Tell us everything.

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Is this possibility even being discussed? No, I mean, I haven't heard it. I'm saying this is my solution.

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Dude, he's got to carry this shit on his chest for 20 years. It cost him the Secretary of Labor.

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It's horrible. It's horrible. No, dude, but you can also look at the amputation. They don't even need a gun. You just send them out there.

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Dude, I sat next to him on a plane. I'm still ashamed of myself. And you didn't ask? Dude, it was like a 11, 15 p.m. flight from Miami, and it was dead silent. And I was just like...

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i'm like sitting there like itching and all right i was like right next to you dude right gotta get him some drinks i didn't want to be the guy that was like uh excuse me i'm like so uh and all the fan it's one of the great regrets of my life you don't want to know who's on the list no i don't i'm not sure the list as we understand it exists like i think a lot of the list let's say if it does bro the list

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Yes, he wants to know. The list, of course. But I'm saying the list, we already know. Leon Black, the head of Apollo Group, who had to resign. The most powerful private equity firm in the world. Fucking Dershowitz. Like, who else? Ehud Barak, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Ghislaine Maxwell. Every person who was ever at the... Reid Hoffman. All of these folks. It's like, it's out there.

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It's public record. And they all give us this... Or Les Wexner. Actually, that's another one. He needs to get immunity, too. We'll be like, how old is he? Fucking 90 years old or something? We'll be like, just saying. Say it, dude. Tell us what happened. Tell us what the fuck happened. You bankrolled it. What were you bankrolling? Why? Why?

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We need to get him. But that's my thing is I don't even know if cash could – people say this. I'm sure you're a UFO guy too. People are always like, oh, does the government have the truth about UFOs? I'm like, yes, but not in the way that you think, man. There's no smoking gun.

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It's just like it's all within layers. The radar blip here. Bro, if you're into JFK stuff too, like you know this already. You're like, look, we already have it. What is it? What happened? We already know that the CIA was complicit in an assassination plot against John F. Kennedy. That's all on the record. All of the official evidence, it doesn't matter.

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We know about the Bay of Pigs, about the elements within the CIA were upset about getting caught up. Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby. All of it. This is like, it's been proven. It's been decades, right? Where we can lay out all of the holes in the official narrative. Magic bullet, right? It's all bullshit. But is there a file in the CIA that's like, we killed John F. Kennedy?

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Is you will find a file talking about these Cuban elements or whatever who had access to stockpiles. And maybe just like 9-11 where the FBI had knowledge or the CIA had knowledge of these people being in the country but didn't do anything about it. That it was more like, yeah, we were aware. We didn't think they were going to do anything serious or whatever.

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And then we're like, oh, my God, we're going to cover this shit up immediately. Like that's kind of how it all went down. So the information is there. Like on Charlie Manson, read the chaos book. It's there. It's there. Like, we know. What's the Charlie Manson thing? Oh, dude, that'll take me hours to explain. But the Charles Manson chaos, highly recommend the book.

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Tom O'Neill spent 20 years on it. Charlie Manson was a CIA asset. He was part of mind control experiments by the same guy who wiped Jack Ruby's mind. Charlie Swift. Jolly Swift. Yeah, that's right. He was the LSD CIA advisor on all of those like brothel plans. Jolly West. Jolly West.

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Jolly West. Jolly West was the person feeding LSD to Charlie. The Manson family and all that was part in an FBI plot to instigate like a race war. That's one of the things that they wrote on the on Roman Polanski's wall was trying to instigate this. And it was all part. of this crazy shit that was going on inside of the FBI at that time. We know this.

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We know all of this, even from the church committee onward. But it's like people think that there's smoking guns. It's just like that's not how it works. Like with MLK, with Manson, with JFK, UFO, et cetera. Like it's all covered up. And the real smoking gun stuff, those people are dead.

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And I think the crazy part about the Manson stuff is that even on their deathbeds, they still won't tell the truth. Who is that? Who is that? The cops involved, the FBI. Why do you think? I don't know, man. I don't know. I genuinely don't know. I think either the information, it's not that it would be too shocking.

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It's just that don't let it ever be confirmed because only weirdos like me ever read the book and come on a show here and tell you about it, right? It's like most people just move on with their lives. Like, yeah, whatever. Manson, is he still alive? You know, what's going on there? Watch the Tarantino movie, you know? It's like, that's it.

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The guy who's only on the job for one week on 9-11? Oh, weird. He's like, why would he have any incentive to cover that up, right?

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That's exactly what happened. It's pure ineptitude. That's what 9-11 was. It was complete clusterfuck. Dude, we've had the information since 05, Lawrence Wright, The Looming Tower. Everybody should read that book. That book lays out exactly how the FBI and the CIA had everything they needed to stop 9-11 and it didn't happen because of a bureaucratic clusterfuck.

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So you need a lot of first-hand knowledge about this. I was just making hypotheticals, guys.

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Honey mustard. Honey mustard. What are you thinking?

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Oh, konnichiwa. No, no, no. It wouldn't even be that. Because that would be a good day. I was just there. Fucking love Japan, by the way. Really? That's where I got this watch. It's a beautiful watch. Vintage watch. I like it. Gotta go vintage. It is. Oh, yeah. Ohai go saimasu. That means good morning.

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I'll be honest. It's one of those. I intentionally, I never did the deep dive. I don't care. Into the fucking human trafficking shit. Because when you get into, they're like, well, actually. Oh, I don't care. That I don't care about.

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The U.S. justice system is fucking nice now. That is pretty cool, isn't it? Not your Sharia law or whatever the fuck your bullshit is. Oh, the West has fallen.

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It seems like we're up with open arms. Well, stop using the West. America, I will say.

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It gets back to our Europe conversation.

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Yeah, it's a nice place. Amazing food. It's great to visit.

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You're wrong about the coffee. Bro, we are here in Soho. This is one of the greatest places in the world for coffee, maybe outside of Tokyo. And you think that the better coffee is in some shithole cafe with a dopio espresso in Milan or something? What are you talking about?

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What I will say is... Yeah, it does, because it's bitter. They don't even do drip. Like, America is built on the man drinking his fucking, you know, what is it, motor oil at 7-Eleven on his way to work. Talk that shit. These fuckers are sitting there with their goddamn wafer and their little ceramic drinking wine at like 10-30. I love that. To be honest, that sounds awesome.

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Yeah, because you don't fucking... They don't do anything. Does that sound awesome? Yeah, but that's the point, is that America's built on 7-Eleven fucking coffee, man.

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Those are the men who built this country. I agree with you. Everything around that is better.

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It's a vacation. It's not the same thing. First of all, again, we're in Soho. I literally was walking with my wife today.

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Yeah. Definitely made it American. That's if you're drinking espresso. I'm drinking fucking drip coffee, which is an American and a South American thing. Because what we want is like the pour over culture. Oh. All of third wave. Some people call it a French press. All of that comes from here. Yeah. No, no, they don't call it French for that. I'm not drinking any fucking French press. Yeah.

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You guys literally live in the capital of one of the best coffee neighborhoods in the world.

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I would say median food in Europe is better, but the high-end food in America, if you want the non-GMO food, our shit is better. If you want the pasture-raised beef, our stuff is better. If you want the really good stuff, but you're right. The median food of ingredients in Europe for the European is better.

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Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not talking about organic. You're saying if you want high quality ingredients in America, in America, the best restaurants in the world are here. Yeah, of course. And by here, stop with the Los Angeles. It's New York only.

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Unless it's a taco truck.

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Unless it's a taco truck. I think the Asian food in Los Angeles might be better. In San Francisco, in LA.

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Yeah, yo, it's from New York? Yeah. Nah, bro. Someone needs to start the fucking train. Is there a Burmese restaurant in New York yet?

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Shout it out, actually. Because I'd like to go. I don't know if it's still- Because Burma Superstar, shout out, San Francisco, some of the best fucking food in the world.

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Yeah.

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And Los Angeles too, if we're being honest.

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I wouldn't say it's on the plain of New York. They're good.

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This is a perfect example of what we're saying. No, I would defend Austin for the Tex-Mex alone. Just because you and I are from Texas. Tex-Mex is fucking great. Tex-Mex is a distinct thing. It's our thing. That's why I would recommend for Austin. I'm not putting it on a New York or LA plane. It's not the same.

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I don't know. Vegas gets all of America's best restaurants. Were you actually impressed by the food scene in Paris? I wasn't at all.

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i did not think the food this is the thing i hate about european cities is that if you want just french food fine in new york like you just said burmese i can go to curry hill and have fucking south indian food north indian food i was i had sushi last night or whatever here in new york i can eat anything same in l.a it's like in manhattan not that good there's there's bungalow was good semi even though i don't really like the chef was pretty good okay

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I mean, America, Vietnam, right? It was probably divided. Well, even in an invasion, you have to remember, this is a country which as a polity, like, was very torn apart. Like, it had a significant portion of their population which spoke Russian, had affinity for Russia. That's largely the part that Russia kind of controls. Yeah.

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I don't know, man.

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The thing about Tokyo is not only is the median experience incredible all the time, their food, like if you look, best pizza is going to be in Tokyo. I know this is, okay, good. I made this argument. I probably went to the place you went to. Best French food in the world, Tokyo. Best Italian food in the world, Tokyo.

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Like, you take a boat over here? And I'm like, no, it's a U.S. passport, actually. I'm like, I fucking own your restaurant.

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Why? Because it's about decorum, man. It's about we all act a certain way. When you're on the subway in New York... That's the most conservative shit you've ever done. I thought you were a libertarian. Get out of my business. No, I didn't say I'm a libertarian. I said I appreciate it.

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But then you also have the Donbass region. You're right. The Donetsk. But also you have this new Ukrainian identity, which has really emerged very distinct from how it used to be in the Soviet times and others. So anyway, it's fascinating. No, I've never been to Ukraine. I've been to all around Ukraine, but never actually. Ukraine is awesome. Like Kiev is awesome. Yeah. Where did you go?

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I like third world loosey-goosey. I get it. I get it. Look, it would never work here. I'm just saying I appreciate it when I'm there. And when you're on the subway and you're rammed up against somebody and nobody's saying a fucking word, you can hear a pin drop. When people are polite to one another. No, I don't like that. Dude, hold on. When I get on the subway.

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D-U-N-E.

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Yeah, it all makes sense. Yeah, it's true. It all makes sense.

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i gotta go to india if you can get past the smell you'll love it it's dynamic it's dynamic and that's what america has too we're a dynamic country i love it it's a great thing what to do we don't want restrictions we don't want yeah but when they all tell each other what to do it's so pleasant to visit when it's so clean and it's orderly and they all stop at their walk how long were you there stop sign

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It was two weeks. Two weeks. I loved it there. I loved it for like the first week. I could have stayed forever. No. I could have stayed forever.

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No need. They don't allow Sudafed in that country. You know what? No Sudafed. You are. They will confiscate your Sudafed at the airport if you bring it into the airport. But what about the declining birth rates? Yeah, no, it's a huge problem. It's a disaster. Why? They don't fuck. I don't know. And this is one of those things, too. They have the greatest place.

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It's the greatest place in the world to have children. Like, they have daycare. They have the incentives. They have everything going for them. Nobody's having kids. Why do you think? I have no idea. I think what it is is vitality. Come on. It's vitality. Come on. And it's like in America. Actually, there's only one Western.

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And the culture restricts it. To back up your point, there's only one Western country in the world with an above replacement birth rate. Israel. Even among secular Jews. Yeah. Really? Yeah, I don't know why. Nobody knows why. I think it's because they're at war and it's about national survival and, like, all of this. America, we're low. Korea, Japan, Sweden, Finland.

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They all have... We all have, except America, like, pretty generous social welfare. We've got a year of paternity leave. Doesn't make a fucking dent. When does the birth rate in America start declining? In Hungary, probably... It's been a while. Probably 1960. I think it was the sexual revolution, contraceptive. But in terms of the current birth, what are we at right now?

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Now we're coming back. But what's Korea at? Korea's like 0.9 or 0.8. It's so bad. South Korea, 0.78. Disaster. That's for people who don't know, that's the total, it's the TFR is the total fertility rate, which means the replacement needs to be about 2.2 to grow as a civilization. Japan loses 0.5% of its population every single year. So it's a disaster. And no immigration.

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Well, yeah, and they have zero immigration. That's the thing. When you go there, it makes sense. They police each other. It's part of their culture.

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As you describe it, you like that? You want to be policed? There's something about it which is so comforting. Would you raise kids like that, though? No, I probably wouldn't. Are you curious?

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oh dude i'm american right i've got this frontier shit inside of me and as much as i love the rules and all of that when somebody tries to tell me what to do or i you know i started my own business just like you you know it's one of those where i'm like fuck yeah and you see those salary men walking around japan but it's nice it's a nice place and they're going to do karaoke alone it's one of the saddest things i don't get that well they they need outlets for their passion

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It is actually the most sexist developed country in the world.

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What about waifus and shit like that? No, it's bifurcated. It's like a barbell culture, where it's like you either are extremely sexual or you're very conservative. And they exist in the same plane.

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I would never give any of it up. Would I ever want that culture here? But there's something I love about it for you. Yeah, go dip in. Just to come in there and just be like, man, I'm so safe. Dude, when you watch little six-year-olds go to walk by themselves to school in Tokyo with their backpacks on at night, you're like,

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This would never happen.

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Yeah.

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Everything is about respect. It's all about respecting. There's a huge cost to it. The cost is high.

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ah it's just it's magnificent yeah it's amazing but the emotion of volatility is also bipolar that is true i mean like yeah that's the cost bro there's trade-offs for everything that's that's it that's all i i do think more americans should experience japan i agree that agreed because there's elements of it that we should yeah we're like hey it's actually pretty nice to live in a city that's pretty fucking safe amazing things can happen

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Commerce. You can walk around. You can send your kid there. Now a wife can work if she wants to. She doesn't have to worry about her kid not coming home at night. We don't deal with that over there.

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It's either violence or eating. Like, that's all you worry about. Your base instinct. That's what most of the animal kingdom is.

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Too soon to say, obviously. There is a problem. There's something called thermostatic public opinion where the idea is it's like a thermostat. You can push it up or push it down. So the day, for example, that Trump took office, Democrats flipped from saying the economy was good to bad and Republicans flicked from the economy is bad to good. Because Biden's economy was a billion. Exactly.

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So it's like, is it really about the economy or was it about something else? Right. It's like, this is why it's hard to say. We have some data points. We were talking about the S&P or whatever before. The problem right now is consumer sentiment is going down. People are a little worried about tariffs. We have issues. Can you explain what consumer sentiment really means?

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Consumer sentiment is the confidence in the ability to purchase things. Consumer sentiment is to purchase things either cheaply or the want to consume in the future. It's actually an index that people measure.

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Yes, exactly.

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That's another part.

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What is that? Just the number of Ukrainian women who apparently are being human trafficked all over Europe. Apparently, it's a disaster. Like, all over Hungary, Vienna, in terms of prostitution. They're being totally taken. We're trying to figure it out.

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America is a consumer-based economy. We don't build anything. 70% of the GDP is literally just consumption. That's all we do here. We're very good at it. There's that. Home prices sky high in January. That was a big reason we had a correction in the market. Mortgage rates remain around 6%, 7% disaster.

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average home price is still like 400 000 in america roughly a million in the metro area that's really bad credit card data is an all-time high the gambling thing doesn't fucking help like there's a lot of indicators there where this is why i think trump won the election a big reason and if people here's the thing about the economy americans can deal with the economy being bad they understand that there's no magic fix but they need to feel as if you're doing everything about it and

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this is a key point one of my favorite books is called freedom from fear and it's a history of the roosevelt administration here's what no conservatives even said this at the time empirically the new deal didn't work like it did not work in terms of its immediate goals of making the economy better but you know what people felt roosevelt is fighting for us and that was enough and that was it then he was a god for that he was a king the last king of america so real quick the new

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Yes, the WPA, the CCC, these were all the work projects administration. The most extreme example is like digging holes and then other people filling them. But the idea is get people working. Yeah, get people working. Keynesianism, injecting money into the economy. But the point was, is they were like, Roosevelt is fighting for us. He's doing everything.

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When the Supreme Court tells him, no, he does something else. He's an ideas man. He's telling Congress to do this, the rural electrification. America did not fight

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physically economically get all that much better but it was about vigor that was another thing about jfk they used to say he had vigor like he would constantly be flying around the country and even though he wasn't particularly good president in terms of getting anything done or passing any legislation they were like this breath of fresh confidence that's what america needs that's where biden's ultimate failure was if you think about his slide it was about nobody said you have a magic egg button or a gas button yeah you're just like you're not doing we don't think you're doing anything

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You're not doing anything. Okay, one thing to that. That's the danger that Trump has, is with this Doge stuff, is if we don't get to vigor, dealing with things on a daily basis. America gives you about a nine-month runway. If we look at Biden, he sank in October with Afghanistan. It was really about a lot of other stuff. Trump's got about eight more months to go.

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I wouldn't know. I make a lot of effort with my wife. So it's like, it's one of those things where I can't relate.

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That's efficient. That's efficient.

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No, but I had to create a game to show effort. So me and my fiance do Christmas every month. So on the 25th of every month, we give each other a gift. So we have to listen to one another throughout the month and see if you pick up on something that that person needs.

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A funeral. We added that into the mix. But some of us like hearing from our partners.

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You didn't actually like hanging out. You just didn't want to be alone.

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She didn't think it was weird that your handwriting was so nice all of a sudden?

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I got that. Who shit on the floor? Me. That was me.

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Yeah. We will ship in and freeze your eggs, though, right?

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Yeah, actually.

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Is there a plan B fund? Should we put them in the studio, though? Is that allowed? Oh, can we store them? Yeah. Can we be the one that stores them? Tom just froze the eggs like an aggro crag, just like in the corner.

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That touched his soul, bro.

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Yeah. Yeah. I even saw a random TikTok recently after this conversation.

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Most people don't have 20 mil when they get divorced.

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We were talking about it. And some girl was like, I can't even go on a date with a guy if he's not going to put in a reservation at a restaurant. Yes. She said, that's a red flag. If you're not going to make a reservation, we're not going on a date.

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Yeah. They're tolerating low standards across the board. Yeah. That, like, oh, she nags, duh. And she's like, oh, yeah, well, he doesn't put in any effort, duh. Yeah. And they're both just accepting mediocrity.

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We're speaking- We're talking relationships.

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Somehow it turned into a hose, and she was like, whoa, I can't even- We try, we try.

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Oh, I'm with that.

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I can see that. Tanya? Supporting pe- I was loving it. I'm so glad. I knew you were. You Jew-esque. Yeah.

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I also feel like this is New York contingent. Like, I feel like dating in New York, guys in New York just kind of suck. Like, I hear my friends tell me stories about, like, dating guys in New York. It's just, like, no guy ever wants to settle down. Your female friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, no guy wants to date.

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Yeah. I mean, I don't know, but this is my feeling is that like the more like small town, like Christian vibes, more guys are like, yeah, I'll get married. And you have less options out there.

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We need the four women in here. Yeah.

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The honesty, I think, right?

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What if a guy has a picture with like three of his boys and he's the least attractive one in the group?

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Like an old guy, 31. That's my wife and me.

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okay because i want the house to be that way so nice and she's like i didn't touch it today i go who cares that's good right yeah but at least it wasn't around mark didn't have a toothbrush for three days two days okay we're shooting a thing i got one son that's crazy that's disgusting

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None of that means anything to them. And peace at home. They're simple. Peace and quiet.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah. I figure they just have too many donors that have special interests. And it's like, ooh, if I see this one thing, I'm going to piss off this donor.

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He's also in an easier spot. Like right wing people in general are able to just be like, hey, let's just go back. We're conservative. Let's not change it. Whereas liberal people have to be like, all right, what are we changing? What are we pushing forward as policy?

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They're literally trying to find new lines, so they don't really have a sort of cognizant view of what the lines are.

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Like that's a tough, it's the class issue that they're like tiptoeing around. Like they don't want to acknowledge the class issue and like try to go with like billionaires the way Bernie did.

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Democrats. I mean, kind of everyone.

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Democrats in America are kind of right in comparison to the rest of the world. So they're tiptoeing around the class issue and going at all the pop culture shit.

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I mean, frankly, it's a bigger issue that affects more people. It is. And Republicans are the party of the rich, and a lot of them think, oh, I'm going to be rich too one day.

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It's also fascinating how native freedom of speech is and expression is in America. Even seeing the response from Indian Twitter users being like, oh, this is disgusting. This dude, this guy is a creep. He's issuing this apology. It was a deliberate act in full consciousness.

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That's illegal. What is this word, sanskar? Sanskar is, I think, traditions. So decency, culture, and traditions are not his forte. Yeah. So basically people are saying you're violating what it means to be Indian, which is like decency and respect.

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Yeah. But then you've got to wonder, like, is the way America does shit, like freedom of expression in America, is that applicable to all people? Is that inalienable and human, or is that just a cultural thing?

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You know what I mean? Like, so at a certain point as Americans, do you look at this and go, oh, if that's what works for them. Or should we stand up for freedom of speech?

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That's what happens.

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We're very thoughtful for one another.

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The effort you made today was phenomenal. Come on, bro.

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Interracial effort is my big thing, okay? Not intergender. I don't believe in that.

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We'll be fine without it. And we're also like taken off guard by this because we're like, there's no way that could happen here. But there you almost have to wonder like, did they know, right? Like, I don't think that's what happened in this case, but like, let's say there's a comedian that's warned two times. Like, hey, the jokes you're saying, you're going to get put in jail.

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And then he says it a third time. Is all of a sudden is our empathy for their, you know, restriction of freedom of speech the same?

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Yeah, fuck, yeah. It's a scary thing, man. But every institution has a version of that, because it's like, there's words we don't say on here, because we know the platform we put it on. Even though we want to say the joke, we won't do it, because we know we can potentially get killed.

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That's true, but... And Google, you know, government has their hand. Sure. Like, you know, what's allowed. And we don't like these words being said. I can see that happening.

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Yeah, you're not worried about that? Like, your tweets are getting picked up in the Times over there. You have family back there.

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That's true. I mean... That's true. And they all probably think I'm Punjabi. They can tell me apart.

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Yeah. The family thing is crazy. I mean, this is like what North Korea has on all their people. It's like, yo, you can try to run, but we know where your dad works. We know where your cousin is. So you can be a martyr, but you want your whole family to be a martyr.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah.

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Yeah, it was like the OGs, so the older All-Stars, then the younger All-Stars, then the Rising Stars, and then there's like the foreigner team. So they put like all the Djokovic's and all that type of shit on it. And then it was just first to 40. And then they put in the H-1B Visa team.

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Yeah, I don't think they were getting paid enough money. I mean, now you're getting paid so much money, you're like, I'm not going to risk getting injured for nothing.

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Yeah. Whereas back then, you're like, I'm playing for honor. I'm Kobe. I'm going to show everyone I'm Mamba. And so he would go off.

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And they would really showboat for the first three quarters and then the last one they're playing. And now it feels like they don't even care? Yeah, it's like no defense, it's slow lobs. It's just like horrendous. It's like shit.

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LeBron fucked up the dunk contest because the years that we wanted him in it, he's like, nah, it's too risky for my body. So then all superstars stopped doing the dunk contest.

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Mack with clunks fire, though.

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Yeah, but he wants that little byline.

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This is a 20-time All-Star. Yeah. Yeah, so how do they... Russell, what would you do if you're advising like Wemby or you're advising? Don't play hard. Yeah.

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Exactly.

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You're not allowed to go skiing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to let you play basketball hard. Like nothing. It's crazy.

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I liked the celebrity game.

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Celebrity game more than anything because I'm like, oh, I got to see Kevin Hart play. Because you're trying. Yeah. They're trying. They have a little ego about it.

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Yeah.

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Like, what if you had, like, Jordan versus Steph? Like, golf tournament.

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You guys are going to get injured on. Like, you can play golf. No one's really going to get hurt, but I'm going to see two people go at it.

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The dunk contest, they should just fuck it. If no superstars want to do it, open it up to everybody on the internet. Because there's some crazy IG dunkers that would be nuts.

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And who's that guy who does all the crazy trick shots online?

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I figured it out.

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No, that's fine. And then give him a 10-day. Like, if he beats Steph, you get a 10-day.

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I was interested when Steph shot against the girl. I've heard her name.

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That piqued my interest. I wonder how that would actually go. Yeah.

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And then with NFL, I think the Pro Bowl, you should put it the week before the season starts. Get like all the best players to start the season off. Like just create the excitement for the new NFL season because they put it after the Super Bowl and after the Super Bowl.

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It's like that was a crescendo.

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Smart dude, though.

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Can you bet on hockey fights? Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But what if we bet on this, though? No, that's far. This shit is fire. Why is this fire? Miles put me on to this, and it's crazy. To me, this looks so stupid. This is retarded. So they actually fight. So it's basically MMA, but they also have swords and shields. Oh, Jesus Christ. Who fucking cares? No, that's far. What do you mean? This is crazy. Have you ever seen this before?

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Have you ever punched a guy in a fucking shield? It doesn't hurt. Boom.

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Yeah, he died. Wait a minute, Al. It's hard snow. It's ice. It's very ice. We have really bad slopes. Nah, I'm fucking in pain. Like, everything's burning right now.

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Yeah. Those are just the lonely ones celebrating Galentine's Day.

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The ones that they just hang out with their girls because they don't have an actual dance class.

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What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick. World's fastest ad read, all right? February 25th, New York City. I'm at Mary Lou doing my own show with a bunch of my friends. And then the 27th, I'm in Baltimore. Belmore, New York. That's Long Island. It's already taken a while. No, I'm trying to go fast. March 1st. And then Rochester, New York, March 26th.

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Where do they find these dates, Mark? Portland, Maine, April 27th. Mark, you got a website. Give them the website. TheMarkYagdon.com.

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Multiple people have tried to do that after the shows. I'm married, and I don't want this sexual interaction, so please don't do that. But please come to the shows. Come see me. Smell me in real life. I promise. It's pretty good, all right? I'll see you guys there. TheMarkYagdon.com. Bye.

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For the record, everyone in the restaurant loves that. Going to dinner with my wife, seeing a couple of Oregon, I'm like, yes, that's theater.

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Bangor, Maine, Portland, Maine, Charleston, South Carolina, Atlanta, Georgia, and Stroudsburg, PA, a bunch of other cities, all on my website, markgagnonlive.com. Come see me on the road, and we're going to hang out after the show. We can say what's up. We're not really going to hang out.

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I know. Just take a picture and come to the show.

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We can talk about just only talking and have fun.

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Love you, Derek.

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I'm curious, back to the Michelin thing, like the politics of the Michelin. Like I have a friend that has a restaurant in Brooklyn. It's a place, Bar Madonna. It's awesome. But he talks to me about like getting on like the list. Like you want to be on the best bars list.

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Like there's all this politics you have to play, not only having a great experience with your consumers, but playing the game of the restaurant. So as far as getting a Michelin star or playing in that world, how important is it to be in the good graces of the critics, being on blogs, things like that to promote the brand of the restaurant?

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What's more important? Like, if you're going to a city and you want to know what the good restaurants are. Yeah, how do you know? And you don't use a Michelin star. Is there another review system? Is there an app? Is there a website? Like, how else can I be informed about the best restaurant in the city?

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So you know Movafuku.

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See how demanding they are? Italians count. They can't even help the Italian, bro. He said three. Three. I love it.

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That's okay. I don't got any pushback. This guy's been around Ricky for a while. Also, 20% is fine, right? Yeah, I know. 20% is generous. 15%?

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20%.

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I'm going to have a Spritz as well, Rick. Two Spritzes. Absolutely. Let's go. A Spritz would be great. Two Spritzes. Thank you. Spritzes all around. That's a smart move, guys. Right away.

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It's a $20 water. I get it.

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We ought to get these migrants out to country. For real.

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It's a good point. And leave the water on the way out.

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That's fascinating.

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No, that's different. What was I talking about? That's slavery. Oh, I wasn't hiring. You can't do that. They weren't paid.

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What about Matt Turner?

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So. We call it a V-cut.

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I don't assume it's word of mouth though for that. That's what I always assumed it was. I could just be like, yeah, I have someone that can fill in. I know someone that can pop in. But they're going to stay within their own squad. Yeah, of course.

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Yeah.

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Helping that canoe a little, you know?

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So how do we go from the restaurant being a sandwich shop in the daytime, getting a little bit of traction with New York Mag, to then becoming a staple in the neighborhood? Oh, yeah, sorry.

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That's what I'm saying. Terese, how much longer is that?

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But the ones that have their opinions made up beforehand, dude, have you ever gotten a negative review that you respected? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have. And what does that look like?

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I'm curious when you create Carbone and you go for these old school servers, captains, faces, all these guys, where does that vision come from? Are you trying to replicate something that you went to as a kid? Or were you just trying to deviate from the trend that was happening presently? Where did that conviction happen?

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Everyone's got a phone, too.

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Have you ever had to throw a patron out because they didn't know how to act around a famous person?

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You think he's a fucking rat?

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When was the first time Carbone was mentioned in a rap song?

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Did you talk to him since? Like, did you hit Drake up? Like, yo, thank you for the, thank you for the shout out. Um, I, I've never, I've never thanked him. Really? No.

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Why are you aging him like that? That's fucked up. I thought he was 46. He had a whole rugby career.

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I mean what an accomplishment you did it you know also to do it in Miami same place where Izzy came back and took out Predator I mean they're part of the same camp like there's a lot of cool there's a lot of cool vibes there yeah man shout so we love you Volk never bet against Volk that's what I said he did call that he did call that that's what I said Volk wins by decision yeah oh wow you were absolutely right what round don't check it but okay decision in the first round that's what I said I think he's in second second

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Yeah, if it's a whole strand. If I found out you got women cooking? Let me find out.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Do people bring their kids to Carbone? Very rarely. Yeah, I don't feel like a kid. But like a five o'clock seating? We frown on that.

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What's more Italian-American than bringing your kid to a restaurant?

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Oh, shit. And it's not just the meal. It's the service. It's the music. It's the table you get. Okay, okay.

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That's interesting. How do you preserve the brand? So not only is the restaurant and all the particulars of actually dealing with the day-to-day, but the brand of Carbone, like this global entity, how do you make sure that doesn't get diluted as you spread into more markets?

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To the staff. This is already assuming you got the res. I'm curious when you walk up to the door, there's the maitre d', which I have a long lasting beef with maitre d's in New York City. You want to get into it? I'm curious. I just get frustrated sometimes. You know, because you get this girl, she graduated college like a year and a half ago.

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She holds power over this entire restaurant, every person that comes in. Is there anything you can do or say to a maitre d' that might kind of tilt the scales in your favor? Thank you. Saying, oh, my mom's in town and she's having a birthday.

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Have you ever introduced a dish to any of the restaurants that didn't work? All the time. Like, what's an example? Give me the biggest bomb.

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Yes.

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Oh, I got a thing at 8 o'clock.

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Like your gym clothes, if they smell.

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What did they think of you? I was like an Italian American.

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Would that be offensive? Obviously not in your establishments, but another restaurant, like if you were to be like, Hey, there's a little 20 bucks. You think a maitre d' would be like, Oh, like it could be beneath them. Who the fuck are you? You're trying to pay me 20 bucks to get you a table.

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That's actually, I'm curious about that. Rich, we love you. Love you, Rich. We love you, Rich. Remind me the name of the restaurant you and Rich worked at. Cafe? No, no. No, with the original one or the one that they built together. That you all met. Cafe Balloud. Cafe Balloud.

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So in the way Cafe Balloud curated you, Rich, David, has Carbone curated any new restaurateurs that have gone off and made a name for themselves?

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It's like the 1950s. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. If you were to go to an Italian restaurant, you needed to judge the quality of the food with one dish. Ooh, great. What would you order? Great question.

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Don't say that. Meanwhile. Meanwhile, there's Rich Terese. How often are restaurants hacking the margins where you try to take an item that's going to sell well, but it's also the cheapest to make, but you price it the highest? Or they'll do this with wine sometimes. Sometimes they'll make the cheapest wine or one of the cheaper wines more expensive to try to create a psychological effect.

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If you're on a date with a girl. Like, let's say you've gone on a couple of dates, you get a reservation at Carbone, you really want to impress her. Is there anything you can do internally to send like a message to, to really like blow her mind? Like something with like dessert, but not like corny. You want to send a message to her? Yeah. Like if you want to like, you know, have a good experience.

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I'm sure there's some people listening. Mark's never been on a fucking date. I'm sure there's some people listening.

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He's great. He's awesome. Have you ever had princes come to you?

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You finish, you're like, everyone can have a look. Yeah. Then I'll leave. Does someone taste Obama's food?

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Is there a concern that in a time of trade hostility, China could come in and basically broker more friendly trade deals with other countries and America could lose its global position?

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You know what I mean? That's it. Do you feel like the tariffs actually address the root problem of bringing jobs, like specifically middle class jobs that have been lost to China, like shoe manufacturing, back to the United States? Or is it mostly a political tool to get these rates to be more, you know, have more parity?

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But freedom's not free.

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Right. It's inflationary is what you'd say, right?

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And then effectively subsidize the consumer through income taxes.

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It is always white mice, bro. It can be any color mice. White ones, bro.

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All of a sudden? They've been anti-threatening since the post-show.

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You said you had it.

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I don't know if I had it.

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Let me tell you something. Why are you saying like that?

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Just go see how you do that, right? I'm sick of that. Spicing. Machino's coming out his dick now. Why are y'all doing that? That was such a weird transition.

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Thank you.

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He does lobster though. Yeah, that's a good point.

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Even though very popular is the same shit, but Doug was crazy.

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Yeah, you married, so. Yeah, relax, relax, relax.

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Do it again on there. What is she an actress? This book. I'm being tense here. Mark, I'm a slacker.

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That's why I said what I said. That's why.

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I'm not playing, bro. You're not playing, bro. That would be an even fight. I want to see you out there now. Now you're fired. Ding, ding, ding. That's an even fight. You had the same weight class. There's no way. Not me now.

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No, no, no.

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What are your chances? What are your chances?

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But they look the same. I found something, guys. But they look the same. It looks like Scoops.

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Miles is the one that's a little disturbed by it, but... But he's still okay.

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We're top tier because of that.

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Syphilis? Syphilis.

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Yes.

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Yeah. Oh, okay. You gotta specify that. This is my point.

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We're finally connected. That's good that you're doing a bath right now. That's good. Yeah, that's close.

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Yeah.

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People do that with the Cybertruck. I'll put Nissan on it.

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Oh, Charles Taliaferro. Just because you say it. Taliaferro. Charlie Taliaferro. Taliaferro.

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The Pope is dead. That's right, people, and now it's time for the conclave. This is the process that the Vatican and the appointed cardinals go through in order to find the new pope. This is going to be happening on May 7th, coming up any day now. And right now I'm on the road. I'm currently in Atlanta. I'm not in my beautiful tent, so today's going to be a little bit different.

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Well, I mean, I'm sure he grew up when he went to an evangelical church.

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Big up. Best herb. Okay. So, any baptized male can be Pope. Nice. But elected popes are typically only cardinals. Yeah. So the days later.

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I think there's like substrat of cardinals. Right. We have like cardinal electors. Cardinal number three.

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Yeah, exactly. Like Call of Duty to the next cardinal level. Yeah, exactly. Superior cardinal. That's fire. Like lieutenant.

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Yeah, lieutenant cardinal. Like in Modern Warfare 2. Exactly. They have like badges on them. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So fire. So fire. So the days leading up to the conclave, there's all this speculation. They're like, who's it going to be? What's going to happen? Da-da-da-da-da. Yeah.

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And these are typically cardinals with significant experience in Vatican administration, pastoral leadership, and diplomatic service. Yeah. Cardinals weigh many factors when choosing a pope. You can think of what the factors would be. Theological outlook.

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Who's the best at moving priests around? Do you have a connection? An airline. Yeah. Administrative skill. geographic representation,

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I think they have like a chambermaid. They have a chamber pot. They have a helper. I think they all have catheters in. No, they must. Yeah. Which, underrated. Catheter? Never tried it, but it seems lit as hell.

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Exclusive baby diva.

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And?

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Oh, really? Yeah.

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Damn. Horrible. Who's anesthesia? So the process then is super spiritual and shrouded in all the secrecy with the aim of discerning the best leader. So there's all these phases. You have the pre-scrutiny, like we were talking about. You have the whole college of all these cardinals dotted up. Then you have the scrutiny where they write all the names.

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They put all the names in the thing and they burn it. And then the post-scrutiny where they take all the candidates, they burn them up, let the smoke rip. Yeah. Which I'm curious how they make the smoke white or black.

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Yeah, I think it was Bedix.

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Yeah, by they, you mean Jaime wearing a sleeveless.

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So he just picks the color.

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I mean, dang.

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No, that's not how they do it. Yeah, Benedict was pretty fast. He was 2005 to 2013.

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Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth. Ratzinger. But according to his personal quote, he said he really hated it the whole time and it was really weird. So I guess he's good. I guess he's fine. Yeah. Dude, my mom used to be, this is one of her funniest conspiracy vibes she's ever on. Uh-huh. Lady Gaga dropped that song Paparazzi.

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And she was like, do you not understand this is a metaphor? I was like, for what? She was like, paparazzi, paparatzinger. No way.

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Because it's all connected in a grand conspiracy.

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He's like, dude, your monster truck shirt is not going to cut it. Yeah, dude, we're talking about the Pope. You can't wear a monster truck shirt. Of course. And then, of course, thank you to Gabe and Thomas for making the cams work and Samir for welcoming us into his beautiful home. Thank you very much. The Pope is dead. Breaking news. I don't know if this is how you wanted to find out, but he is.

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We got some candidates, by the way. Okay, hit me. We got Cardinal Pietro Parolin from Italia. Don't like it. 70 years old. Okay, so he's young. He's a young guy. He's a young buck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's, you know, green. He's got gangrene.

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He's turning green. He's like got silver skin or whatever. He served on Pope Francis' Vatican team for 11 years and became a favorite amongst the bookmakers.

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Look, have your bookmakers talk to my screen readers.

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And he spent his career in the diplomatic wing of the Holy See. Wow. I like when they call it that. The Holy See? Yeah. S-E-A? S-E-E. You never heard that? No, it's the Holy See. The Holy See is just like my assumption. I've always just heard it to be like the governing body of the Catholic Church. Oh, okay. It is just...

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The administrative operation.

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Pietro, yeah, Petro Pepperoni. And he made his career in Nigeria and Mexico. I guess that's what they mean by geographical representation. Right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why or who. Well, I can guess why. But, like, who went down there? Was it the French?

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like that he was made a cardinal in 2014 by papa francisco yeah and uh he's widely regarded as a moderate reformer whose personal beliefs blend support for progressive reforms with firm adherence to catholic orthodoxy okay on some core doctrinal issues this is so funny when you're like he's a reformed pope it's like he's going to move it a nanometer left it's like we're going to allow gay people

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He was a key architect and a backer of Pope Francis' reforms, describing them as irreversible and rooted in the action of the Holy Spirit. Amen, brother.

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uh he supports decentralization in synodality sign up with synodality basically advocating for greater authority and flexibility for local bishops to like perform sign odds it's so funny i mean who could ever care right it's just like this is the biggest issue in the world yeah it's like synodality and it's like it's this is affected like six catholics once yes

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That would suck if they just found out. Yeah, dude. What? Papa Francisco, he's been put on a t-shirt, man, so pour one out for the Argentinian legend. He's gone. And you know what happens when the Pope dies? Conclave. They wait three days to see if he emerges from his sleep.

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He's also hardcore on the big issues. On the big gay? He publicly opposed same-sex marriage. No! That's bad news for you. Wait, what? We'll edit that. In 2015, he called the Irish referendum legalizing same-sex marriage. He says, quote, I guess he's a little bit softer on it, but he says, quote, this is a defeat for humanity.

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You're like, okay, Petro Pepperoni, relax. I mean, just imagine seeing two dudes kiss and be like, this is a crushing defeat for you, man.

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but that's the job dude that's the pope that's like you know the big OG's main role it's his main job like it that's really what it feels like it just feels like just bashing the if you're pope you just gotta be like yo stop being gay don't kill your kids for real though stop being gay stop doing abortion on god yeah I don't fuck with that gay shit yo dead ass being hetero like banging chicks is like that's a bucket like for real on the dead homies for real I do not fuck with that gay shit sign petrol pepperoni

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So he's, yeah, he's been, you know, pretty hard line on that one. And it expressed reservations about blessing same-sex couples. They said, hey, will you bless a same-sex couple? And he said, no, I have some reservations.

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Right?

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Yeah, we're going to... Can I just think on it?

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I'm going to pray.

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And if there's white smoke, I approve. He upholds traditional teachings on euthanasia and the sanctity of life, but he's open to discussing clerical celibacy. What?

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He's like, look, no gay shit. Don't kill people. Yeah. But one thing the church could do better is getting some bone. That seems like the most self-centered choice ever. I'm open to it. I'm open to discussing me getting hit all the time and then also a sick new car.

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They see if he looks at his shadow, and if he does, then it's going to be winter.

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I think a brother would just be what priests would call each other. What about like a Franciscan priest? Like a friar? Like a friar. I think friars are also priests. Okay. But they exist with like a different distinction.

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Exactly. There's like beer pong and like. That they make beer. That's like their main thing.

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That's true.

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But yeah, a friar is a member of a religious order. Okay. So.

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No, I went to Presbyterian school. Wow. Yeah, dude. I love you, God. Like, that's Presbyterian school.

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Yeah, be like, yeah, we good. Peace. Yeah, I did my job. But Pope Francis is dead. My mom is... Is she devastated? I asked my mom, I said, is she devastated? Do you know what kind of Catholic my mom is?

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He was chill as hell?

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That's sick.

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But I think Deacons can get topped off.

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Yeah, because deacons take, like, a religious vocation, but they're not ordained priests. Okay.

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I think so. But, like, that's also kind of like a part-time gig.

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Exactly. They weren't, like, at the church. Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Just getting sucked.

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But Parolin's diplomatic approach is pragmatic and wants a dialogue. He's seen in his role in the Vatican's agreements with countries like China and his advocacy for multilateral solutions to global issues such as migration. What? He's working on migration.

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What?

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So that's basically his gig. He's kind of like a centrist moderate. He supports some reform, greater openness, but remains cautious. High my thumbs up or thumbs down for Petro Pepperoni.

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He's a diehard Catholic.

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He's also, yeah. Fucking Chicanos, man.

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And you probably learned about them in school and they were pretty boring, but not here. No. As you know, I was raised by a conspiracy theorist, so I'm going to be diving deep into all of the interesting, strange, occult, and secretive societal relationships that all of these famous influential men from our shared past have.

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Pope Francis was like, I think dogs can go to heaven. And my mom was like, this guy's a heretic. Did he say, I think dogs can go to heaven? Like a little girl asked Pope Francis, like, Mr. Francis, I'm five years old and my little doggy died. Is he going to go to heaven? And then he was like, maybe. Yeah, well, that's the only answer. My mom was like, this guy has no spine. He's spineless.

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All right, so this guy from the Netherlands. If you had to guess, what do you think his whole vibe is? Oh, he's got to be a limp cuck. 71-year-old, former medical doctor, widely seen as one of the most conservative.

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2015, he helped pen the 11 Cardinals Speak on Marriage and Family. What is that? Which staunchly opposed Francis' endorsement of civil remarriages in the case of not receiving annulment to the first marriage.

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So basically, if you get married in a Catholic church, you're bound by God. Two flesh become one.

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Inseparable. Francis had an endorsement of civil remarriages in the case of not receiving annulment. So you can't be remarried in the church.

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And Francis was like, yeah, it's fine.

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You just have to get an annulment.

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No, if you get an annulment. But an annulment is kind of a funny thing. It's a loophole, sort of. What is it? An annulment says not that, oh, this marriage is over. It says that the marriage never happened. Never was. Oh, Jesus Christ. Exactly. He's a part of that. I mean, what a ridiculous. So let's say you and I were to get married.

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Exactly. Like God's going to go, I forget. Yeah, God was like, hey, good news. You can split up because you were never married. You guys were just having sex. You were just pretending. Premarital sex. You were just sitting. You guys were having premarital sex and premarital kids.

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That's how it works. Once two things are bound by God, they can't be separated.

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yeah well clearly they can't like they could until you look in the records you're like oh this was never bound what a convenient loophole we hate each other and turns out god didn't even think this was a marriage yeah i mean come on we're good come on so like let's say for example you have to be open to life when you're having a catholic marriage you have to say you meet with your priest and they say are you both willing to have kids okay you say yes we're both willing to have kids and you get married what do you said no then they say we can't marry you in the church

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oh interesting so then you get married and then you go to your wife you say hey babe now it's time for me to hit it raw yeah i need you spread eagle on the bed stat and uh if she says no i don't want to have kids then you say wait a second that's not what you said to the priest and then you go back to the priest you say hey she doesn't want to have kids now and he goes oh great news she's a liar married she's a liar because she's a liar you never got married

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This is bizarre. Welcome to the show. So this guy makes an endorsement saying, hey, Papa Francisco, you are out of line. You were overstepping when you were saying that they can get remarried in the state.

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He's just lying. You have to tell a child that their dog definitely is not going to heaven. So I asked my mom, I was like, do you think Pope Francis is in heaven? And she said, no. She said, that's forgotten.

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What's wrong with you? Yeah. He wrote that they are, quote, a form of structured and institutionalized adultery. Wow. He was made a cardinal by Pope B. Dix in 2012, and he's a staunch defender of the Church's teaching on marriage and that it is a lifelong, indissoluble union between a man and a woman.

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He strongly opposed proposals to allow divorce and civilly remarried Catholics to receive communion without annulment. So you divorce your wife, you can't get communion. Jesus. That's exactly what communion is. Dude, you've been crushing it. Yeah, thanks, dude. You've been so on it.

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Well, is it in vain?

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It's more of like an intention issue, right?

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So is it?

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There you go. See? Now you're thinking like a Catholic. Yeah.

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Being tricky. Exactly. So he wrote a book in 2012. Great. He's an author. He's on a book tour. Amazing. And the book is called The Bond of Love.

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71-year-old man that's never been with a woman. Yeah. That's the thing that I think some of these guys don't realize is that being married sometimes sucks. Yeah, of course. And sometimes bitches be crazy.

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You know what I mean?

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Being married to some chicks is a tough game.

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And this guy doesn't realize that. Yeah. He's over here being like, man, I wish I could get married.

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Probably.

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He's like, dude, if I could just be married right now, how sick would that be?

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And so he's like, so you should be married forever and never even think about splitting. Little does he know.

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That's what the whole book is, basically. The Bond of Love. And he basically reiterates that marriage's purpose is both reproductive... Unitive? Or unitive? And he insists that reproduction remains essential to the marital act. Legit. And this guy's been criticizing Pope Francis for the longest. Yeah. He's just been a professional hater. Okay. He wakes up every morning just to hate on the Pope.

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I was like, it's a high chance that he's the Pope.

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Yeah. Kind of sick. You a bitch, bro. For real, he's just been calling Pope Francis gay. He's been criticizing him for not taking a firmer stance against the German bishop's proposal to allow some Protestants to receive the Eucharist.

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That one, we can agree, that's insane. Right? Like, at Catholic Mass, receive the Eucharist? Yes, and some Germans... Why are they going to Catholic Mass?

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Maybe their friend's getting married. Oh. So they go to the Mass. I think you should sit that out. That seems like that's... It seems like logical. I'm taking his side with this.

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And she goes, I can't say that. Who knows? Who knows where he is? All I know is that J.D. Vance killed him.

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I'm pretty sure only Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe that the Eucharist actually is the presence of... But they're not Protestants, really.

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They got bigger beards.

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Their whole vibe, the branding-wise.

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Serbs. Yeah, it's kind of different. Yeah.

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Big schism back in 10th.

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Year 12. Yeah, fuck 12. Yeah. But he was basically like, yo, you should have gone harder on this. And he said that the Pope's response was completely incomprehensible. He said incomprehensible? He says incomprehensible.

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Yeah.

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which like i was saying i don't think it's hard to kill the pope like it seems like the easiest thing to right yeah what's the assassination attempt just like like trip him an air horn just an air horn at any moment just turns to dust my mom was like my mom literally she was like i don't know man the pope died after he was calling for like a ceasefire after he met with jd vance like you think it was an inside thing

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Yeah, that's my diet right now, actually. That's exactly the diet I'm on.

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But don't even think about touching the Eucharist if you're not... But if you're not a Protestant... If you're a Protestant, don't eat.

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Yeah. Don't be crazy. If you're a Protestant, you better back the fuck up.

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No. Okay, so no. The spirit of the Eucharist becomes the body of Christ.

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What is the spirit of your body, dude?

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I was wearing authentic Tanzanian garb. How would you describe Christoph's spirit? Swag. Dude, very swag. Very Central African. Like very African, very swag. It's a lot about getting pussy and swag and money.

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That's what I'm saying. So imagine your spirit got taken away and got changed out with someone else's spirit. You would still be you, but your spirit would be different. When a doll gets possessed, when Annabelle becomes possessed.

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Annabelle isn't a demon, but the spirit of Annabelle is a demon. I'm just telling you what cat is like.

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Like Casper.

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Yes, but there are no ghosts.

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We're doing a discussion, so I've invited my good friend Christoph, who's a very, very funny, brilliant comedian that I started comedy with in Orlando, and he's going to be with me. We're going to be having a discussion. Again, you were raised Catholic. Yeah, I was. So he's extremely well qualified for this conversation. This is going to be perfect.

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Any other questions? Are you converted? You believe that in your heart? I fully believe that.

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I mean, I grew up Catholic. As a Catholic, that's my job to believe that.

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I mean, yeah. You kind of have to. You don't have to.

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If you don't go to church, you're not a Catholic. So it's easy for you not to believe it. But I was raised Catholic. Yeah, but you're not a Catholic. That's true. So of course you don't believe it. I'm ethnically Catholic. Do I have evidence of this? Can I support this scientifically? No. Do I choose to believe it because of my faith? Yes. Wow. Do I have any evidence to back it up?

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It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough to back that up. If I'm in a court of law, and they're like, whose body is this? And I'm like, that's Jesus' body. And they go, oh, well, actually, we dissected it. It's actually a cracker. It's actually Ritz. Can they update the cracker? Oh, you mean like someone... I mean, the cracker stinks. Like when Nutella?

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I was like, no. They got him. I was like, Mom, he's 150 years old. Dude, Mossad got the Pope. Yeah, I think he just swallowed a grape or something. Yeah, exactly.

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When was the last time you had the Eucharist? Tell me that. I might have been 15, 14. Yeah, so you don't even have any say.

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Cardinal Peter Erdo. Down here.

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They try to diddle him. He's like, I'm an adult. So this guy, Erdo, he was made a cardinal in 2003 by Pope John Paul II. Nice. JP too. He's Hungarian, widely recognized as a leading conservative amongst the Catholic hierarchy.

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And he's opposed to allowing divorce and remarriage, and he doesn't want them to get communion. He cited the church doctrine as saying, hey, you can't dissolve it. It's in the books. In the books. He's a conservative on all the things such as same-sex marriage, clerical celibacy, the role of the church in political life.

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He said that the church must not get involved with problems of the given moment. Facts. That's how I feel.

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I like that. That's a bar.

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yeah i don't care about worldly i'm not worried about immigration it's like well how should we the tariffs let's see what cardinal you know petrol pepperoni feels about the tariffs yeah that's not the point so this guy he has a good relationship with the hungarian hungarian government and uh yeah he's he's a yeah he's a he's a pope francis hater he called pope francis he said he's freewheeling pope francis

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Like Bob Dylan? He said he was a freewheeler. A lot of his political stances were freewheeling. He's just flying by the seat of his papal pants? Sounds like a Trump nickname. Yeah, freewheeling Francis. That's pretty good. And yeah, he's described as a friendly traditionalist.

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yeah you have to make the pope forge it in the fires of mount doom that's what the smoke is no now it's time for conclave all right and the conclave this is the process of electing a pope so today i'm going to go through the entire process of how they elect the pope the history of the conclave and who some of the contestants are in this year's bachelor the pope number one

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Are you ready for the Lib Pope? Yeah, I'm ready for the Lib Pope. Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagliatelle.

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67 years old, and he's known as the quote, not me saying this, someone else has said it, the Asian Pope Francis.

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And he's considered the left-leaning political candidate of the Vatican. And he's been critical of the church's treatment of the LGBT people and divorced and remarried Catholics. It seems like those are the biggest issues within the Vatican. It's divorce and gay stuff. Are you gay and are you divorced?

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I feel like because they're celibate and they're not married. They're obsessed. They're just like, I've chosen my life to do this and you can't even just be married.

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First of all. 2015 interview said the church's severe stance on gay people, divorcees, and single mothers has done harm in its goal of evangelizing.

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Decent point. He's often described as a leading progressive voice within the Catholic Church, though he himself resists the labels emphasizing the importance of pastoral sensitivity and dialogue over ideological camps. Uh-huh. He's widely recognized for his advocacy of more welcoming and merciful church, specifically towards the gays.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, just, like, be, like, just chill about it, you know?

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He's more concerned about the church's past use of harsh words. Yeah. That's a quote he said. He said, harsh words for these groups arguing that such language led to their isolation does not reflect the church's mission of mercy and evangelization. But Catholics don't evangelize.

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Yeah.

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This feels like the Book of Mormon. Like, I'm coming to you as Jesus. You are. Coming to me as Jesus? You're a goner.

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But yeah, he's basically like, for example, Pope Francis, even him being like lib. Do you remember he was just saying the F word?

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But the Italian version? No. Dude, it's so funny.

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He's like, yo, you got Fnooks. He's got a bunch of Fnooks. He's Fugazi. No, the slur is apparently people get mad at him and he just like is too old to understand the difference.

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Frucciagine. Frucciagine. Frucciagine is an offensive slang term in Italian referring to gay men and gay male culture. And Pope Francis has apparently... Keeps saying it. He just keeps saying it. Yeah, it's probably just what he always called them. He's like, we have to be nicer to the... Frucciagine. And everyone's like, stop saying it. What?

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So this guy, Tagle, or Tagle. Tagle. One contentious issue is a communion for the divorced and remarried. He says that he's against the one-size-fits-all rule and that he requires that every situation for those who are divorced and remarried is unique and that the church should address each case individually rather than issuing a blanket statement. That seems fair. Like, if you're like...

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Yeah, you get an annulment and you're good. But maybe you're in a marriage that's legitimate, but then he's like beating the shit out of you. Yeah. And you're no longer with each other.

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Technically, you might be able to get that annulled. I actually don't know the rules on that. But maybe in that case, he's like, yo, just let her get commuted. Like, there's a battered woman. He does not advocate for the ordination of women or radical changes to priestly celibacy, but he supports further discernment and discussions on these topics.

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All these guys are like, well, I could, let's say I could get slurped up, hypothetically. One way the church could be better. Suction? Yeah, he's like, he's like the most lived out one. And then we got another guy. This is Jaime's favorite. Cardinal Robert Serra. Yeah, dude.

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this guy is uh robert sarah robert sarah he's he's he's made quite a stir yeah he's like been like like twitter's been talking about him because everyone's like he's like pretty where's he from he's uh from guinea he was born in guinea in 1945 and he's held several senior vatican roles and he was made a cardinal by benedict in 2010 and his reputation is built on strong defense of traditional catholic doctrines liturgical practices yeah

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Their hats just stick out over the curtain. I think that'd be sick as hell. That'd be cute as hell. But the way that the conclave's been working... It's actually a fairly recent thing. For the first thousand years of the church's history, from basically like zero, from the time that Christ died, like 33, all the way up to like 1,000. Yeah. It was kind of like the Wild West.

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He's a prominent advocate for the traditional liturgy, the Latin Mass.

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That's my boy. He also called for a return to greater reverence and sacredness in worship, seeing the liturgy as central to the faith.

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Well, typically only the songs are in Latin. And then like some of the readings are in Latin, but then all the homilies in English.

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And so the idea is that it's going to preserve the word of God as much as possible. As Latin in its original language. Because it's a dead language that never changes. Yeah. So you don't have to change the words. You know what I mean? Like Pope Francis being like, fraggocine. Yeah, yeah. That used to mean something different. Yeah. So he's against gender ideology. No.

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He says that practices like divorce and same-sex marriage lead to a moral crisis. Yeah. He also said that he's been critical of Pope Francis' reforms on liturgical matters, but nonetheless, he's been described as a man of prayer and integrity.

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What about nukes? What are you talking about?

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The divorce in Ukraine. Yeah.

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And they're actually married. Yeah. That's their... That's sacrosanct. Exactly. He's been outspoken in defense of human rights under a Marxist dictatorship while he was in Guinea. Guinea. And it earned him a reputation for courage. Hell yeah. And he's been described as doctrinal and a liturgical conservative. So it seems like all these guys are conservatives.

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Yeah, that is a good point. And he's married. He's married. He's gay married. Which, according to Catholics, isn't a thing. So he's actually not married at all. They'd be like, yo, you're not married.

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And then be like, actually, I'm not married at all.

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I was fooling around and I made some mistakes.

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Yeah. You'd love the cliff. It's great. My mom said that she loved it until the very end.

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But I mean, I feel like it's like, yeah, it's a cool twist. It's a fictional tale. It's not like it's a documentary and they're like... No, it's not a documentary. It's just like a fictional fun tale. Yeah. And what makes it interesting is that the Pope's trans.

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Hermaphroditic or whatever.

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But I think that makes it interesting.

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I'm trying to think. If you had to put money on one of these here popes... It's tough to say. Without knowing literally anything. I think it's going to be a conservative.

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They were picking popes all sorts of wild ways. And the bishops were then chosen. They would pick another person, just like the pope that died would elect someone, da-da-da. But then, in 1059, Pope Nicholas II restricted the right to elect the pope to the College of Cardinals.

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You think Italians hold any type of... Yeah.

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22.2%.

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The Filipino Lib. Filipino Lib is at 22.2%. Now what about our boy Robert Serra? I'm going to say 11.6%.

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God damn, I'm good. You ripped that, dude. Thank you very much. And then Peter Erdo, the Hungarian guy, he's at 8.3%. Peter Dink. He's at 8.3%. Nice. So yeah, given that approximately 80% of the cardinals were appointed by Pope Francis, there's an expectation that his successor will continue his reformist agenda.

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135 cardinals. 80% were appointed by Pope Francis.

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Yeah. That's smart. It's like the Supreme Court. Yeah, literally he packed the courts, dude. Yeah, he packed the courts. But the betting marketplace, Cardinal Parolin as the favorite, the papal elections are inherently unpredictable. And the historical precedents have shown that unexpected candidates can win all the time. Anyone can be pope.

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Anyone can cook. Exactly. Anyone can be Pope. So, yeah, we're going to see what happens. I think it's on. I think they're going to vote on the 7th, and then we could have an answer by the 8th.

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I'm on the edge of my seat.

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I like that. Anyway, thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode of Religion Camp.

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Please drop a comment below. I'd love to know who you think is going to be the Pope.

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the vatican city cardinals go vatican city cardinals and this was a group composed of cardinal bishops priests and deacons and then it was refined again in 1179 when the third lateran council made a two-third majority system and now the modern conclave where the cardinals are locked in seclusion until a decision is reached was introduced in 1274 wow by pope greg that's early for democracy

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Let's make it number one in likes.

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That's a great idea, actually. I can't believe I never thought of that. Yeah. Let's make this the most liked podcast in history.

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Am I Miles? Am I Miles-ing? Everyone that comes on. Am I Miles-maxing? Yeah, you're Miles-maxing big time. Oh, no. But we'll see. We'll see. Dude, Miles when he was going off in the past life regression kids. He's like these dumb, goofy, white bitches.

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Yeah, well, we'll see what the people think. Maybe they'll love you.

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Yeah, exactly. That's what we do.

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Precisely. Anyway, see you all next time. Peace with you.

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1274, they said. I mean, the Romans had some type of democracy. Yeah, but I mean, still. For Pope, democracy was pretty good. And they've been doing it the same way since 1274. Lockdown. Pope Greg the X. Pope Greg. Yeah, dude. And this was... Pope Greg. Popey G.

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yeah my name is greg i'm the pope it's not a pope name at all but uh they've done some additional reforms to like ensure secrecy and prevent influence and streamline the voting process and all that stuff right did you see conclave i did see conclave apparently they do an extremely accurate job it's a wonderful film the internal uh the internal organs the internal organs both yes exactly yeah

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And so today we're going to be going through the history of the conclave, where it came from, why it's done in the very strange, ritualistic, and secretive order that it is. Where all the different cardinals are from, the prospective popes.

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um so one of the big reforms that happened pope greg in 1621 this is a different part i love pope greg he formalized the requirement for a secret ballot and then reaffirmed the two-thirds shaping the procedure that is largely followed today so the rules have been codified and updated but the core secrecy is the exact same so now with like phones and stuff it's like hey no phones yeah no phones nothing yeah it's weird to see a cardinal texting

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Food was made at Conclave. So here's what happens. The second the Pope dies, the process begins. Yeah. Confirmation of the vacancy by the Camerlengo.

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Yeah, strap in.

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So yeah, you're well equipped.

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Yeah. I went until I was nine years old. Latin, Pig Latin. Pig Latin. And this camera lingo breaks the Pope's fisherman's ring and seal to signify the end of the reign. A few weeks later, Cardinal Lecter's those under 80 years old. They do have an age limit. The young guys. It is crazy that The Vatican has an age cap.

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Yes. Yeah, yeah. They're like, if you want to run America and control nukes, any age. Any age. If you want to deal with kids. Well, they could.

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I mean, probably in 2004. Yeah, I was going to say. Because I'm like, you're thinking about the presidency. Yeah, it can't be.

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They drink bad water. So those under 80, they gather in Rome. So they get the young bucks out there. And in 2025, there was 135 eligible cardinal electors. Wow. The largest number in history. Wow. The conclave takes place at the Sistine Chapel, one of the most beautiful chapels. You been there?

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We're going to go through their backgrounds, their political histories, what they believe, who the liberal ones are, who the conservative ones are, who likes who, and who is the most likely person to actually get elected as pope. And finally, we're going to go through everything you need to know. A to Z. What does it take to actually become the Pope?

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We should go. Let's go. I'll take you. Let's go. And we'll go to Hermes after.

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This is an inside joke that I need to tell the people about. What you need to know about Kristoff is he's a... A class act? He's just a country bumpkin. I'm not a country bumpkin.

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kristos is a kristos kristos kristos you put the sunglasses on i'm kristos exactly no kristos is just a field mouse you know he's just a field he's just like uh like a homely feels like a euphemism wait for never mind kristos is just a sweet guy with a heart of gold yeah dude i'm my dad did hvac all right he never did none of this old fancy stuff

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So I said like, oh, this shirt looks like Hermes or something like that. Yeah, I was literally wearing my good news. And Christophe goes, what is Hermes? I didn't say that. Anyway. You said Hermes. It's not like I read it. So the conclave takes place at the Sistine Chapel where all outside contact is cut off. Yeah. They put all their phones in yonder bags and say, look, it's time to elect the Pope.

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Conclave. Voting is conducted by a secret ballot. Yeah. So, first day, there might be one round of voting. On subsequent days, four votes are held, two in the morning, two in the afternoon. Each cardinal writes the name of the chosen candidate on a ballot, disguises his handwriting, Fascinating. Which is, I'm doing wingdings, dude. Yeah, how are you disguising your handwriting?

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You gotta hit it lefty. You gotta hit it lefty. Right? Yeah. Or, like, just, like, I don't know, try to write, like, how your friend writes or something. Just, like, grip it weird or something. Yeah. Yeah. This just feels like the Tribal Council of Survivor. Yes, it does. Doesn't it?

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It's like, you just write it down, look into the camera, just be like, Francis, you tried to sell me out, you motherfucker.

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man I'm skipping ahead we're skipping ahead okay sorry so you gotta write it down okay write it down on a piece of paper okay I'll disguise my handwriting disguise my handwriting your handwriting is a tiny mustache yeah it's like perfectly disguised wearing a little hat and then it's ceremonial yeah Francis with a little hat on yeah like big nose like yeah dude I think Francis is pretty cool you can put your own name you can put your own name you should be able to you definitely can vote for yourself

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Right? For the papacy, of course. And that's the guy you don't want.

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I need to watch this movie.

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Then they have something called the scrutinizers.

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Or the scrutineers. Scrutineers? The three scrutineers.

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That feels racial.

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And then the ballots are burned after each round. Black smoke signals no decision. White smoke announces a new pope. A victor. The process continues until a candidate receives two-thirds majority. If a deadlock persists after several days, the rules allow for pauses for prayer and eventually a runoff between the two top candidates. It's a runoff. And they do a speech or some shit. Yeah.

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I'm putting Mountain Dew in every water fountain. Like a little kid. Push-up contest, break dancing. Exactly. They do a runoff between the top two candidates who themselves are not permitted to vote that round. Yeah. So the top two candidates are just sitting there, and they're both just like, dude, I hope it's you, man.

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Whatever happens, I just like, look at us. How crazy is this? Inshallah.

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what's up everybody welcome back to camp we're not in our traditional setup in the tent instead we're in uh an immaculate tanzanian palace here in here in uh atlanta georgia i'm joined by my good friend christoph how are you sir thank you i brought this shirt from home this is my favorite shirt it's my personal shirt is that is that exclusive uh that's her mess yes her mess no that's actually a custom shirt that was made by our good friend uh baby diva but what was your what was your name

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What's up, guys? We're going to take a quick break because I have great news. Religion Camp has merch. That's right. We have amazing t-shirts like this one you see here and this one. We got hats, all sorts of very interesting designs, not only for Christianity, the one I was raised in, but for all religions, Hinduism, Sikhism, Islam, Judaism, Mormonism.

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I actually don't know if we have a Mormonism shirt, but maybe we can work on that if we got any, you know. Latter-day Saints trying to cop. Anyway, you can catch it all here at this link. We'll also have it in the description as well as the comments. Get that right now. And peace be with you. So once a candidate is elected, the dean of College of Cardinals, the dean of the College of Cardinals.

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The dean of the College of Cardinals. Asks if he accepts the office. If he does, he chooses a papal name and is dressed in papal vestments. The senior cardinal deacon then says, Habemus Papum. Do you know what that means?

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That's correct. It means we have a pope. Yeah, that's close. From the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica, the new pope gives his first blessing to the world. Wow. Just DJ set. Yeah. He just gets turntables up there.

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How do you become a candidate? Is this a quiz? Great question, Christophe. So any baptized male can become, any baptized Catholic can become the Pope. You? Me?

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Just do gay stuff, but just wear a cloak so God can't see it. Yeah, just be cool about it. Did you see what T-Dog posted?

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Colonia Dignidad. We know that Nazis had fled post-World War II and many of them went to South America, but did you know there was a rural Chilean cult that harbored many of these Nazis and engaged in many nefarious acts? And today we're gonna be breaking it all down. If you've never heard of Colonia Dignidad,

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So despite many attempts to stay sort of secure and covered up, public knowledge and reports about the crimes occurring within the colony went out there and people started to talk about it. But Pinochet's government allowed the commune to operate with complete impunity.

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The Chilean state not only failed to intervene, but also provided protection and legal status to the enclave's leadership, ensuring that the investigation into the abuses would never be sought after. The climate of this impunity persisted all the way through the dictatorship, even as evidence of torture and kidnappings and abuse continued to mount.

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So this shared nature of, you know, sort of protection and impunity made it slow for anyone to get justice at the end of the regime. But ultimately, in the transition to democracy in Chile brought this renewed scrutiny to the crimes committed by the people at Colonia Dignidad.

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So as the dictatorship of Pinochet ended and the Chilean society began to address the legacy of human rights abuses, Paul Schaeffer and his enclave became the subject of public and judicial attention. about time, right?

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The period at this point saw increased efforts from survivors and advocates to basically go to the Chilean state to investigate and expose all the violations that occurred within the commune. Everything from, like I said, forced labor to sexual abuse and the collaboration with the Pinochet regime in exchange for disappearing political opponents. So by 1997,

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After mounting legal pressure and public outcry, Schaefer fled Chile to evade prosecution for his sexual crimes and other crimes of forced labor, etc. And he remained a fugitive for several years until his arrest in Argentina in 2005. I mean, just imagine how long this was. He develops and actually creates the commune in 61. He starts this in Germany in the 50s.

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And from then on, he wore a glass eye that becomes, you know, sort of emblematic of his myopic view on the world today. And at the age of 18, Schaefer moved to a small town near Cologne. And in October 1940, he was called up for a few months in the Reich Labor Services. This was basically a Nazi paramilitary force in a town nearby. Due to his eye injury, he was not deployed to the front.

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So this guy goes from the 50s until 2005. I mean, straight up five decades, 50 years of abuse and murder and torture. And at that point, only then in 2005 is he actually caught and put on trial for his crimes.

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He's extradited to Chile, and Schaefer was convicted of many, many counts of abuse on minors, amongst other things, and received a lengthy prison sentence marking this moment of accountability for the leadership of Colonia Dignidad. And despite the developments The investigation into the full extent of the abuses and the disappearances connected to Colonia Dignidad continued.

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I mean, survivors and advocates persisted in their efforts to achieve this type of justice. And the process was slow and arduous and bureaucratic and, again, complicated by the enclave's decades of secrecy and involvement with not only the Chilean, but also the German authorities.

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But nonetheless, the ongoing work of the advocates and their attorneys was crucial in confronting the legacy of Colonia Dignidad and ensuring that the crimes there would never be forgotten or repeated. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because I got to tell you about a dirty little secret, okay? The insurance industry doesn't want you to know this.

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Well, basically what the insurance companies do is that they profit by holding onto your money as long as possible. You pay them every month, and then eventually when an accident happens, they try to deny or delay your claim so that they can keep their profits going.

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I mean, it goes even worse when in court, the insurance companies want jurors to think that the at-fault driver, you know, a mom that rear-ends someone, you know, she's a single mom, and they think that she is going to be paying the verdict amount. Meanwhile, it's really the insurance companies who are going to be covering the costs.

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And we thank Blue Chew for sponsoring this podcast. All right, now let's get after it and let's get back to the show. Paul Schaefer fortunately died of heart failure in 2010 in a prison hospital in Santiago, Chile. I mean, thank God. I hate these stories sometimes because you just like, the bad guys never get caught. They just die somewhere, you know? But again, it took him until 2010.

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And in 1941, he was drafted for a military service and stationed in a small town known as Munster, presumably as a medic, but no one is really clear. Due to the sparse information about Schaefer's role during the Second World War, there are later many different speculations about his involvement in other Nazi crimes.

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How old is he when he finally died? Can you find that out? I mean, he lived out... Oh, my God. I mean, he was 88 when he died. I mean, how... Like, you can't kill an 88-year-old sooner. It's crazy that he didn't just get caught up in prison or something, right? You would think someone in prison would be like, yo, we gotta get this dude.

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Especially for the trial of crimes, that's usually a... That's what I'm saying. Like, it's crazy that it took that long. Like, dude. Like, just... Like, blow on it or something. Like, how easy would it be to kill an 88-year-old, right? Single punch, really. Yeah, like, a punch, like, I don't know, like, hide his Skechers or something. Like, he's a trip away from just turning to dust.

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I mean, ugh, I hate this shit. But ultimately, he dies, and it sort of marks the end of the era for Colonia Dignidad, as he had ruled the enclave with this authority for decades. And his passing was seen by many of the survivors as a form of justice. You know, he's in prison for the rest of his life, but again, it took so long.

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And, you know, many of the victims continue to try to seek full accountability because it wasn't just him, but it was many others. And the final blow to Colonia Dignidad came after Schaefer fled the commune in the 90s to escape this prosecution, leading to a lot of scrutiny and intervention by the Chilean authorities.

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Once he was captured and extradited, the control that he had at all collapsed, right? He was able to still have some type of proxy control while he was in Argentina. And the community, renamed to Villa Bavaria, gradually loosened its internal restrictions and the residents were then allowed to leave and connect with the outside world.

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The Chilean authorities ultimately raided the site multiple times uncovering the evidence of this type of abuse in collaboration with the Pinochet regime. And the loss of leadership with the ongoing legal investigation basically dismantled the cults, you know, in any type of their authority or, you know, the impunity that they had on the people.

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I mean, these cults and their leadership, it's just crazy. One of the things I always think about is the conversation I had with this guy, Jennings Brown, where he talked about people kind of getting stuck in these cults. And back in the day, to develop a cult, you had to get people in person. You had to meet someone in real life and bring them in.

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And once they were in, it was probably easier to keep them. But nowadays, these cults exist online. It's like Facebook groups and forums and Instagram chats and all this kind of stuff where people don't even realize they're getting inoculated into a cult.

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And the thing that you always said that sticks out to me is if you feel like someone is getting drawn into a cult, don't try to pull them away because the cult tells them, hey, people on the outside, they don't understand you. They're going to call you crazy. You're going to say that we're a cult. They're going to say all this stuff.

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If they say it, I'm telling you, that means that they're too far gone. Just ignore them, cut them out of your life. So if you go to someone in your family or friend that's like, yo, I think you're in a cult, people are going to be like, Oh, man, this is what the leadership of the cult said was going to happen. I guess they're right.

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So what Jennings says, the best way to deal with it is to ask open-ended questions, to be open-minded, to go into it and just be like, hey, so what's this group you're a part of? What are you guys getting into? What are you guys all about? What do you guys stand for? Are you allowed to talk to people outside the group? Are you allowed to freely move? That kind of stuff.

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Specifically mentioned were possible assignments in forced labor camps and a sub-camp of the Buchwald concentration camp. Again, none of this necessarily can be verified, but again, many theories about what he was doing abound. After the war, he becomes active as a lay preacher and a youth worker in the Evangelical Free Church.

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Additionally, if you are someone that might be of lower income, maybe you're a single parent, you're going to be a target for these people to try to go after. I mean, again, my conversation with Bob Hamer, who was an FBI agent for many years exploring these types of child abuse crimes, he said these types of evil people, they're looking for people that need help.

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So the answer is not don't need help, but make sure you're getting help from people that actually stand to help you, that are not trying to isolate you from your family or from people around you, as Schaefer and the rest of the people in Colonia Dignidad did.

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So, yeah, this Nazi pedo cult kind of stands as an example of this transnational systematic abuse that can be perpetuated not only by private actors, but also the state when they have some type of mutual benefit. And for decades, this enclave operated as the closed society where torture occurred.

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Sexual violence, forced labor, disappearances were all enabled not only by the silence of people at the top and the surrounding area that maybe knew about it, but the active support of authoritarian regimes in Chile. The crimes that were committed there were not isolated incidents, but a broader part of this kind of like state-sanctioned violence under a dictator.

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And when Colonia Dignidad eventually became a key site for the dictatorship, they just got impunity to do whatever they want. So the legacy of Colonia Dignidad is a reminder of Unchecked power, secrecy and institutions that fail to protect their people and the vulnerable.

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So if you ever feel like, you know, maybe you see something like this where, you know, people are getting drawn into this kind of stuff. Hit the local authorities. If you're in a dictatorship, sorry. I don't know what you do if you're in a dictatorship and the state itself is enabling it. I mean, you got to just escape in the night. I don't know what else you can do.

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And it's just, I guess it's hard once you're in there and you're getting brainwashed by the leadership to be like, hey, if you leave, we're going to kill everyone. At a certain point, you just got to be like, hey, I'm blowing this whole thing up. I'm out. But yeah, it's crazy. I'm curious what happened to the site today. Are you able to look up Colonial Dignidad today?

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I wonder if the whole thing got leveled. I don't know what you can do with it. Maybe make it into a memorial or something?

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I mean, yeah, they renamed it to, you know, the Bavarian Society where people would hang out and do German shit. Ah, a tourist destination. That's kind of nice. Like, yeah, we do tours. Yeah, we have a German-themed experience, including a hotel, a restaurant, a sex dungeon. I mean, that's wonderful. And there's also a memorial where they address the site's history, yada, yada, yada.

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But look at the mountains. Look at how beautiful these mountains are. Yes, they renamed it to Via Bavaria. I mean, that's crazy. A range of leisure activities and cultural experiences for tourists. No thanks. All right, like I'd be like, who made this pretzel? Who made this? Can you show me the people that made, I don't, there's, I mean, come on. Does everything need to be a tourist site?

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Does everything? Like, it's just like, I mean, that's why, can we see what a picture of it looks like? Go to images real quick. I mean, that shit looks like... I mean, they didn't even try to make it not look like a Nazi camp. I mean, that's crazy. Barbed wire and a big sign at the top.

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Yeah, like it's crazy. I mean, I can't believe that people were not more privy to what was going on. I'm just saying, dude. If you're, I guess it's just like, if you're going to make a cult, like getting ex-Nazis is the easiest thing you can do. It's like, hey, these people have already gotten brainwashed once. You know, how hard could it be to run it back?

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Also cozy up with the current leadership. Yeah, exactly. Just get like a dictator and be like, hey, look, I know what we're doing is bad, but what you're doing is bad too.

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So it seems like, yeah, Pinochet does this military dictatorship from the 70s all the way until 1990. And ultimately, oh, man, supporters of Pinochet refer to Pinochet as my general, while opponents call him Pinocho, Spanish for Pinocchio from the children's story. And basically gets arrested in London on some charges of some light stuff, genocide, terrorism, whatever. Yada, yada, yada.

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Schaeffer was known for his charisma and this sort of authoritarian style, you could say, that he spoke very, he was very convicted and he would speak with absolute certainty. And as a result, he attracted many people. after the war, specifically war widows and their children.

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In 1998, he's then arrested. And for the first time was brought a former government head was arrested under universal jurisdiction. He's placed under house arrest in Britain. And then he's released in 2000 on the medical grounds by the Home Secretary.

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without without facing a trial and then he returns to chile in 2000 and uh they create the status of ex-president which granted its holder immunity from prosecution to financial allowances i mean that's crazy he died in 2006 and was given last rights and uh he died of heart failure I mean, that's just wild, dude. Both of them went of heart failure. Isn't that interesting? I guess, yeah.

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I guess that's just God being like, all right, let's stop this. Let's just stop this immediately. He was not granted a state funeral, but a military funeral. I mean, he just lived out the rest of his life and just died. Yeah, just lived out his... Of course, he was initiated into the Masonic Lodge. He was a Mason, of course, dude. Got the Scottish Rite.

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I mean, yeah, dude, the worst people of history just always typically end just, you know, having a chill time, going to like some resort somewhere, like the worst people. And then like the pretty bad people. That's the thing. If you're going to be bad, be very bad. If you kill one person, you go to prison for a while. You kill 10 people, you get a death penalty.

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If you kill like a million people, they're like, ah, that's fine. It is crazy. If you're going to kill 10, you might as well kill a million because that's the only way to not just get an electric chair.

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I'm just saying, dude, it's wild. Hold on. I need to ask someone. I'm going to ask my Chilean friend. All right. Alex Alejandro. You're on my podcast right now. I'm doing some research on this guy Pinochet. Okay. What's up with that, dude? Do Chileans like this guy?

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And he founded what he called the Private Social Mission, which operated basically as like an orphanage and some type of Christian charity. And Schaefer's approach was marked by this sort of like strict German discipline and this focus on obedience, which later we'll see kind of lays the groundwork for his leadership style in Chile. So by the 1950s,

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National Soccer Stadium to put people in firing squads? the there's there's like a section at the at the stadium they like siphoned off for like the people that died there oh actually my buddy Sebastian did an art installation where he put a tree up and they played a soccer game around it I think in commemoration for this I mean that's crazy That's wild, dude.

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I'm just doing some stuff on this guy. I'm like, dude, this is crazy. He just lived out the rest of his life in Chile. He died when he was like 99 or something.

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I mean, dude, he was, you ever heard of Colonia Dignidad? Dude, this was like a Nazi concentration camp that this guy from Germany set up to like torture people. And he worked with Pinochet's government to make it happen.

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He's a wild guy.

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That's crazy.

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Yeah, I guess.

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Nah, dude, fuck this guy. He killed your uncle.

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I mean, damn. Well, shout out to him though. That guy's, your uncle's a G for standing up to him. Yeah, that guy was a G. Well, I didn't mean to bring this up while you're just probably having a casual day with your friend, and I'm just like, yo, dude, your uncle's dead?

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Well, I appreciate you, brother. Mucho gusto, and I'll talk to you later. God bless you. Well, there you have it, dude. Pinochet. Guy's a piece of shit. Hot take. I mean, that's crazy. He chopped up my boy's uncle. Turns out. So... If you are living under a dictator, try not to be, all right? And definitely don't stand up to him.

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This is a secretive German enclave established in rural Chile in 1961 by a gentleman named Paul Schaefer, who fled Germany following allegations of child abuse. Presented to the outside world as charitable, religious community, Colonia Dignidad concealed a reality of the worst human rights abuses you can imagine.

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I guess if you're going to live under a dictator, just set up a camp or something and just be his boy because then you'll just die of heart failure later. I mean, that's wild. Man. Anyway, Christos, anything you want to contribute? No, I think that's it. You support Pinochet? You like him or not?

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What about Colonial Dignidad?

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Also, Gabe, Colonial Dignidad, what is that, Colony of Dignity? That's ironic. Anyway, this has been another episode of Camp. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. If you are interested in the strange, bizarre, weird, atrocious, morbid, or fascinating stories from all time through all corners of the world, this is the place for you. This is our tent. We do this every single week.

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Schaefer's activities in Germany came under some suspicion. Parents and authorities raised concern about his inappropriate behavior with some of the children in his care. And in 1961, the German police opened a formal investigation into these allegations. So in order to evade prosecution, he leaves. He flees Germany and takes with him a group of loyal followers, including many of their children.

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The circumstances of their departure were... I guess, legally questionable, you could say, as some children were removed from their families really without proper consent. So him and his followers, they go to Chile in 1961, seeking to escape the legal prosecution that they were facing in Germany.

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And upon their arrival, they acquired this large tract of land near a town called Paral in central Chile. The Chilean government granted legal status to the group, officially recognizing it as the Sociedad Benefectora y Educacional Dignidad. Gabe, how was my pronunciation on that? That was horrible. Thank you. I appreciate that.

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The legal recognition basically allowed Schaefer and his group to kind of like establish themselves with a degree of, you know, protection, right? Like they are coming here and we're being legit and above board. And this lays the foundation for the enclave that would later become Colonia Dignidad. The community is... Right. I mean, this is like a like an old cult tactic, right?

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You take people from a place. I mean, you know, Jonestown is the most infamous example. And you move them to a new place and they don't know anyone. They don't necessarily speak the language. So they're forced to be very isolationist, which, as we'll learn, can become rampant for all types of terrible abuses. So the community operates, you know, as its own sort of like.

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you know, agrarian industrial kind of commune in a way. And it has its own internal systems and effectively functions as a state within a state. And Schaefer exercises absolute control over all the people and all aspects of their life within Colonia Dignidad.

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He enforces a regime of, you know, discipline and surveillance and obedience using a lot of like religious ideology as the central tool for keeping all of this authority. And members were subjected to... Very rigorous routines of, you know, monitoring and isolation from Chilean society and then even their own families within the enclave.

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And religious doctrine was used to justify and reinforce a lot of this stuff. And this, again, ensured that Schaeffer would be, you know, the head authoritarian within this little sub-community. So within the colony, Schaefer established this hierarchy system that relied on all the things from discipline to basically suppression of their individual rights.

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I mean, child exploitation, forced labor, collaboration with Chilean military dictatorship. I mean, the worst stuff imaginable. And the story of Colonial Dignidad is an example of how a charismatic leader, an authoritarian ideology, and a state complicit with abuse enabled decades of suffering behind closed doors.

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He presented himself as this spiritual leader using... but really a pseudo-religious discourse to legitimize his authority over all the people within this community. And this framework was centered on, again, just maintaining control of all the people.

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The structure of the community is characterized by separation of family units and prohibition of a lot of interpersonal relationships and this enforcement of a rigid daily routine. So he kind of enforced almost like a... like a Gestapo in a way, inside the colony.

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People were constantly monitoring each other and they were encouraged to report to each other about someone else potentially going outside the commune or having private closed discourse with other people within the community. And this environment of constant monitoring and fear was... the key element upholding the community's order and ultimately Schaefer's dominance.

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Many of the members were denied access to any type of external media or communicating with outsiders. And if anyone did, they'd be severely punished within the commune. Personal bonds, including, you know, romantic or even family relationships, were suppressed in order to eliminate potential alliances that could go against Schaefer's authority.

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And anyone that did question his authority was met with severe punishment. Again, reinforcing the system where human rights violations were systematically and deeply embedded in the community's life every single day. So this is where it starts to get interesting. even more effed up. So you have this guy Schaefer, right?

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And he starts to forcibly remove children from their parents and basically commit them to communal care. So parents with their kids, he's now severing the family ties and saying these children are now the children of the commune and not your kids specifically. And custody rights were then transferred to other group members, ensuring that the

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the rigid hierarchy, and then again, subjected to all these abuses. I mean, it's just crazy. You have to think like these people, they go through this war in Germany. And again, many of them were on the wrong side, as you can imagine, but these kids are ostensibly innocent and the widows, you know, they were at home.

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And so now they're moved away from their families and their immediate families put into a different country. And then their kids are forcibly taken from them within the commune in a place that they know nothing about With a language that they can't speak, they don't even know who to go to. They can't even leave the commune. So now their kids are taken from. I mean, I have a kid.

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I have a seven month old little baby boy. And the idea that someone would take my kid, I mean, it'd be like agonizing. I mean, it's like insane to think that this guy would forcibly take their kids, especially if you know that he's being investigated for child abuse back in Germany. It's like absurd.

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So from the foundation of the colony, they start now actively reaching out to impoverished families in the surrounding rural areas. And this is a classic, again, like abuser cult move where they find the most disenfranchised people that need support, offer them the support, and then systematically abuse them either through forced labor or sexual abuse, all this other terrible shit.

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So what they would do is they would go around offering free medical care and educational opportunities to local kids. And these services were used to build trust and kind of bring families in who lacked access to these basic resources. Again, positioning the commune as this benevolent kind of force within the region.

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So today, we're going to dive deep on this bizarre chapter of history known as the Nazi pedo cult, and how they were able to take advantage of the needy and legally adopt children without consent. So without further ado, let's jump in. So who was this guy, Paul Schaefer? All right. He was born in a little town called Bonn on December 4th, 1921. He's the third son of a woman named Anna Schmitz.

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So they go to these people and say, hey, you know, your kid is really smart, but he's not getting access to the right education. You know, we come from Germany where we have all these educational opportunities. Wouldn't you want your kid to have access to the most? tip-top educational opportunities. And the parents are like, yeah, I guess.

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And then they pull in more people, again, pull them away from their communities. And now they've fully got their grips on them. So many of the local families, they kind of got persuaded and they entrusted their kids to the commune, unaware of the true nature of what Schaefer was doing there or even back in Germany.

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And they believed their children would receive better living conditions and just offering them an opportunity outside of the poverty that they were experiencing. So within the colony now, both German and Chilean children are becoming victims of this systemic abuse and exploitation.

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And the structure of the commune, again, with its hierarchy, isolation and, you know, snitching culture where people were monitoring each other at all times, facilitated and concealed the crimes. The abuse of the miners, especially boys, was a central ongoing crime within the enclave. And the leadership not only, you know, protected, but just enabled all of this to happen within the community.

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I mean, it's just crazy that like these people would just kind of, you know, just turn the other way. But if again, if this guy is saying like, hey, well, you know, we'll kill you. We'll send you to the authorities. We can get you deported. You'll never see your kid again. He now has, you know, claim to you and your entire family.

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And again, this abuse is not only to the children that were the Germans, but local families as well that were lured in under these false pretenses. So the leadership within this colony, not only was it Schaefer, but it was many people with their backgrounds that were linked to the Nazi Germans and other far right extremist groups that existed in that area.

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So a researcher, Jan Steele, documented that amongst Paul Schaeffer's followers were people who had been part of this Nazi regime and had strong sympathies for the ideology even after the war. So the enclave's founder, Schaeffer himself, was a former member of the Hitler Youth and a medic during World War II.

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So the presence of former Nazis in these far right extremists contributed to this authoritarian and hierarchical structure that defined the community. You know, these people had already been brainwashed and indoctrinated under these Nazi ideals. And so it was much easier to co-opt them into now taking on this class of ideas, which, frankly, is not that different. Right.

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It's a system of surveillance and abuse. And this ideology, along with, you know, this nostalgia for the German homeland and the hierarchy and the religion were all justifications for his authority. So Schaefer himself as the head of the commune, but many of the other hierarchs that he kind of brought in as the top brass of the commune.

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would, through a system of surveillance and punishment, would force people not only into this sexual abuse, but also into forced labor. And people, specifically the natives, the Chileans of the region, adults and children, were forced under harsh conditions to work, you know, 16-hour days doing manual labor.

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And anyone that dissented or stepped out would then be either tortured or threatened with torture. And again, this form of, you just led to a cyclical nature where people were then, you know, more and more inclined to listen to everything that he said.

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So throughout the 60s, Schaefer had established a colony that was built on this type of pseudo-religious, you know, borderline Nazi authoritarian abuse. And by the 70s, this again, this abuse had been going on for a decade, the political tensions of Chile created a system where they could now rely on the turbulence of the local political government.

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So by the 1970s, Schaefer and the leadership of Colonia Dignidad aligned themselves with the country's political right. This strategic alignment was motivated by the fear of, you know, land reform policies that was then proposed by the President Salvador A la Dante and his government that then threatened the enclave's extensive property holdings.

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And if you infringe on the property holdings, then the isolationistic methods of control would then be lost. So Schaefer and his followers sought protection and political favor by supporting the conservative right wing actors that, you know, opposed the president's reforms. Shortly thereafter, there was a military coup by General Augusto Pinochet in 1973.

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Colonia Dignidad became directly involved in the apparatus of this kind of state repression, and the enclave served as a clandestine site for detention and torture and kidnappings and disappearances of political prisoners.

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So as much as Colonia Dignidad needed some type of government support to facilitate their abuse and control, the government also needed a place, sort of a black site, to then carry out their atrocities as well. This facility and the infrastructure of the colony were then made available to the Chilean secret police, and the enclave became notorious as a center for basically human rights abuses.

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This was a concentration camp now existing in Chile with Nazi ideology. And the crimes were, again, a part of this systemic collaboration between Colonia Dignidad and the Pinochet regime. And the relationship between the dictatorship and Schaefer was further underscored by personal visits from high-ranking officials.

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His father, Jacob Schaefer, disappeared after they divorced in 1932. And Paul Schaeffer was 10 years old at the time, and his mother remarried in 1933. And according to Schaeffer, his father had died in the war, as did his two older brothers. And at the age of six, Paul Schaeffer was severely injured in his eye.

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I mean, at one point, Augusto Pinochet himself, along with the secret police chief Manuel Contreras, visited the enclave, demonstrating the close ties between the community and this dictatorship. The facilities of colonial dignidad were then not only used for the repression and intelligence operations, but also as this support between the dictatorship and the abuser at this time.

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So now Schaefer and his commune is completely protected by the political nature of the place and the government that's in charge. And they're both mutually benefiting. The Enclave provides a space for detention and torture and disappearance of Pinochet's enemies, and Schaefer is now able to carry on his isolationist, systemic, oppressive regime without anyone trying to come in and stop him.

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Alistair Crowley, the wickedest man in the world. Imagine you're 11 years old and your own mother looks at you and calls you the beast from the book of Revelation. Not as like a joke, not playing around. She genuinely believes that her son might be the literal antichrist walking around their home. That's how Edward Alexander Crowley's story begins.

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there was lila waddell a violinist who could improvise music during rituals and helped with crowley's poems mary deste who helped him decode the numerical mysteries hidden in the book of law and jeannie robert foster a journalist who actually documented their experiments And these weren't random hookups.

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Crowley genuinely believed that each one was chosen by these supernatural forces to help him unlock these levels of reality. Now, remember, the sex wasn't separate from the magic. It was the magic. Crowley would design these elaborate ceremonies where

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You know, these sexual positions corresponded with different planets and their influence and the timing of climax aligned with the astrological events and every fluid was collected and used in these follow-up rituals. It was this whole thing, right?

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He kept these detailed diaries regarding, you know, basically everything that happened and basically everything that happened, you know, spiritually and physically because he believed that the two were inseparable. So by 1912, Crowley's experiments caught the attention of Theodor Roos, the head of the German occult organization called the Ordo Templi Orientis, also known as OTO.

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Roos had heard rumors about Crowley's sex magic techniques and was convinced that he had independently rediscovered ancient secrets that the OTO claimed to preserve. He initiated Crowley into the Order and eventually made him the head of the British branch. And this was perfect for Crowley, a group he could take over and mold to fit his own ideas. The OTO had started out kind of like a...

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This guy, little Edward, I feel like that's how Trump would say it. Little Edward grew up in basically a cult. His parents weren't just Christians. Technically, they'd probably identify as Christians, but they were members of the Plymouth Brethren. Think fire and brimstone. You're going to go to hell forever and burn for eternity. Cranked up to 11.

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almost like a mystical or like a more mystical version of Freemasonry, full of these rituals and ranks you had to move through. But once Crowley was in charge, he pushed it way further. He rewrote the rituals to include real sex acts, treating them as these tools for magic. What used to be Symbolic ceremonies became actual physical rituals meant to create real power.

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And at the top of Crowley's version of the O.T.O., things got even more intense. He introduced what he called the supreme secret, a specific sexual technique that, according to him, could create powerful power. Magical energy and lead to these even greater supernatural results. And this wasn't just talk.

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He gave detailed instructions on how to use, you know, masturbation, oral sex, intercourse and all, you know, different forms of sexual activity as actual prayer or like spiritual practice. And it wasn't optional. Members were expected to try these methods and report back what happened.

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Crowley believed that he was bringing back something ancient that Christianity tried to get rid of, and he thought the early Christians had purposely buried these ideas of sex magic, which, you know, led to centuries of shame and repression around it. In his view, sex wasn't sinful, it was spiritual.

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His OTO rituals were meant to fix the divide between body and soul, and by, you know, making people think that the bedroom was almost like a temple, and that, you know, every climax was a connection. with the divine. But this is not the craziest part. Crowley's strangest and possibly most important magical experiment came in 1918 during his time in New York. It was called the Amalantra.

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or the Amalantra working. This was a series of rituals he designed to make contact with non-human intelligence. He did this by using a mix of sex magic, psychedelic states, and ceremonial invocations Crowley intentionally aimed to open a doorway between these worlds. And according to him, it worked. Or something came through. And that something was Lam.

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And the weird part is when Crowley sketched Lamb based off of what he saw during the rituals, this is what he drew. Now, what's strange about this image on the screen is that it kind of resembles like a gray, what people would describe like an alien as. But what's interesting is that this was done in 1918. The earliest depictions of the Greys that we sort of know come post-World War II.

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They come really with the abduction of Benny and Barney Hill. And that that is really when this idea of these big-headed, big-eyed alien things really comes into the fold. And so the idea that he would draw this in 1918 stands out as... you know, a pretty strange, a strange way to describe this non-human intelligence that he spoke with.

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So again, you can see this oversized head, you know, you got these strange sort of eyes, this small mouth and nose. And again, this was 1918, decades before Roswell, you know, Betty and Barney Hill in the 1960s, before aliens or E.T. or Spielberg, any of these people actually put these ideas into the cultural zeitgeist. And Crowley didn't call Lamb an alien, right?

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No dancing, no movies, no theater, no plays, no novels, no fun, basically. His father, old Edward Sr., was a traveling preacher who spent his days warning people about damnation.

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He called it a preternatural intelligence, his words. Something that existed outside of normal reality, acting as a gatekeeper between dimensions. Maybe even, you know, when people take DMT and they go into a different place, they see machine elves. There's a thing you often hear people describe as like gobliny type creatures. Maybe they look like that as well. Who knows?

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So, he, again, calls the lamb this sort of gatekeeper that exists between, you know, these dimensions. It's the same way he described Aiwas, the being that he encountered in Cairo that actually gave him the, you know, the book of law. So according to his journals, Lamb communicated telepathically and gave him cryptic messages, you know, about consciousness, time, the structure of reality itself.

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Crowley believed that Lamb stood at the threshold between worlds and that by engaging with you, you could reach even stranger entities. So fast forward to modern times, some UFO researchers think that this was the start of it all. The first documented contact with whatever's been abducting people, showing up on radars, going through bedroom windows, sucking up cows.

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The idea that Crowley, through his experiment, opened a portal that was never fully closed. Even Crowley seemed to think that he had tapped into something major. He created a group called the Cult of Lamb to continue the work and spent years trying to chart what he called the Tunnels of Set, invisible routes between dimensions that beings like Lamb could travel.

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Now, was Lamb an alien, a demon, just a figment of Crowley's drug-fueled imagination? No one knows. But the image he left behind and the Sort of strange parallels to the modern abduction stories that we hear make it one of the most haunting chapters in occult history. So by 1918, Crowley had pushed magic further than pretty much anyone before him. He wasn't just messing around with spells.

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He built an entire belief system around magic. Sexual freedom, you know, contacting other entities, breaking through the limits of consciousness. He had gone from just, you know, being some rebellious poet with a grudge against, you know, his upbringing to being a legit magical practitioner. mapping out ideas that wouldn't hit mainstream psychology or spiritual circles for decades.

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The family, you know, they basically just like lived and breathed this apocalyptic Christianity, the kind where you're constantly waiting for the world to end at any given moment and kind of secretly hoping that it happens again. But here's the thing about strict religious households is that they make sluts. Right.

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And at this point, he had followers all over the world experimenting with the same stuff, trying to reach the same places. Whether people thought he was a genius or a crazy person, Crowley was exploring territory that no one else dared to touch. But Crowley wasn't just turning heads in the occult world. Other people were starting to notice, too.

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His pro-German writings during World War I had made him a target back in Britain. His sex magic was freaking out polite society, and his drug use was getting harder To ignore the guy who claimed that he could talk to alien intelligence was now on the radar of governments and journalists who thought he might be dangerous or, you know, at least just completely unhinged.

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And all of that pressure didn't stop him at all. If anything, it pushed him into the next chapter of his life, founding the Abbey of Thelema in Sicily, a place where his philosophy of do what thou wilt would be put to the ultimate test and nearly tear everything apart.

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So by 1914, Crowley had created enemies in multiple continents, and World War I was about to give him the perfect opportunity to make history. even more. When the war broke out, Crowley happened to be in New York, officially stuck there because of the conflict, but in reality, he was kind of enjoying the chaos.

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Instead of doing what most people expected, you know, heading home to support Britain, he did something that shocked even the people who already hated him, he started writing pro-German propaganda for American readers. The articles bashed the British Empire as corrupt and praised German efficiency and making arguments that, to some, looked like treason. But here's where it gets interesting.

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A lot of intelligence historians now believe he was actually working as a British double agent the entire time. The theory is that MI6 or British Naval Intelligence recruited him precisely because he already had a shady reputation. I mean, who would ever expect, you know, the wickedest man in the world of being a loyal spy, right?

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His pro-German articles were so over-the-top ridiculous that some believe that they were meant to undermine... German propaganda by making it look foolish. If that's true, then Crowley wasn't just stirring the pot. He was weaponizing his own persona to troll or dissuade an entire nation.

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If you think about it, this guy, the wickedest man ever, this crazy guy that's doing drugs, talking to people, if he likes Germany, then I can't be a supporter of Germany. It's kind of smart. Now, sure, the evidence is mostly circumstantial, but it's interesting to engage with.

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Crowley had ties to British intelligence through his old Cambridge connections, and the articles he wrote were filled with subtle mistakes and like these weird exaggerations that made them come off more like parody in a way. And the biggest clue after the war, nothing happened to him. No charges, no trial, not even like a slap on the wrist or like a fine, nothing.

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Either they were incredibly forgiving, I doubt, or they knew exactly what he was up to the entire time. So by 1920, Crowley was ready for his next experiment. He developed a complete philosophical system in Thelema, tested radical magical techniques through the OTO, and survived this wartime controversy that would have destroyed anyone else.

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I mean, like everyone that I know that's like just a sexual deviant group and a very repressive religious home, except myself. I actually come to think of it. I don't even think my childhood was that repressed. It wasn't like it was very religious. My mom would take us to church all the time, but like there was no repression. Like we talked about whatever, like we had fun.

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Now he wanted to create a living lab where his ideas could be practiced without interference from society. And he found the spot. This is in Sicily, a villa called Santa Barbara that he renamed the Abbey of Thelema. And the Abbey wasn't just some house, it was Crowley's attempt at a utopian community, fully built around this idea, this motto, do what thou wilt.

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The people who lived there weren't just roommates, they were part of an experiment in radical freedom. They followed their desires without guilt or moral rules and performed daily magical rituals and treated everything from eating to sex to meditation as a part of this spiritual path. And the place looked like it.

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I mean, Crowley painted the walls with wild murals, gods, goddesses, sexual scenes, occult symbols, all sorts of stuff. And, you know, a full-blown visual map of his beliefs splashed across all the rooms. Life at the Abbey was all about what Crowley called the great work, basically figuring out... who you truly are and growing into that. But this wasn't just some vague spiritual idea.

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Crowley had put together intense rituals that were meant to take people to the edge of their physical and mental limits. The morning ritual was called the Liber Resch and required... Residents to greet the sun at dawn by facing east, raising their arms and reciting, Hail unto thee who art raw in thy rising, even unto thee who art raw in thy strength.

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Evening rituals were more intense, inspired by ancient Egyptian practices. People gathered in a dimly lit room where Crowley, dressed in robes and headpieces, led the ceremony. He called on gods like Babylon and chaos while couples had sex and others chanted, believing that energy would be created and this could bring the spiritual force into the room.

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And the most shocking ritual was the Mass of the Phoenix, where participants would make small cuts on their arms, their chest, with sacred knives, collecting the blood in these ceremonial cups. And they'd mix this blood with wine and drink it while reciting, I am the Lord of Thebes, and I, the inspired fourth speaker of Mentu, for me, unveils the veiled sky, the self-slain Ankh-Aph-Na-Khonsu.

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The idea was that blood contains a life force that could be consumed and basically get this magical power. It's basically being a vampire disguised as like a religious ceremony. And when you read the text or when you're reading even like the, you know, the incantations or the rituals, you're just a little bit like, is this like Renaissance fair? It feels a little Game of Thrones, right?

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You're kind of reading it like, all right. But he took this shit completely seriously. And maybe it worked. Again, I don't know. I never talked to an alien. He did. Crowley, he also instituted what he called the Gnostic Mass, which was a parody of Catholic communion where the Eucharist was replaced with cakes made from bodily secretions.

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Like when I turned 16 and my dad went to like a club and like had a good time and the whole family was there. We got a table, you know what I mean? So like it wasn't repressed in that in like the traditional sense. But it was very religious. But when things are repressed, it gets, you know, haywire, right? The tighter the leash, the harder they pull, as they say.

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And the priest and priestess would engage in sexual intercourse at the altar, with their combined fluids mixed in small cakes that the congregation members would then consume as a sacrament. Drug rituals followed the same pattern.

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Participants wouldn't just smoke hash recreationally, they'd fast for days, consume precise measured doses while invoking specific Egyptian deities, then spend hours in darkened rooms recording their visions in these magical diaries.

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Crowley believed that different substances opened pathways to different spiritual realms, so he'd combine multiple drugs and cocktails designed to produce the specific type of mystical experience. Then there's the ritual that everyone had to go through. Newcomers would be blindfolded, stripped naked, and led through a series of chambers where they'd experience this ritual.

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simulated death and rebirth. They'd drink bitter potions that induced vomiting, submit to being tied up and symbolically tortured, and swear oaths of absolute obedience to Crowley. This wasn't for abuse. It was the newcomer to shed his old life and be reborn, or at least that's what Crowley said. But the Abbey's most intense practice was what Crowley called crossing the abyss.

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a symbolic ritual meant to shatter the ego and reveal a person's true will. It wasn't just meditation or incense. Some participants underwent days of isolation, fasting, mind-altering substances to break down their sense of self. The goal was spiritual rebirth through ego death. But not everyone came out the same. Some were never really quite right ever again afterwards.

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And there were rumors of permanent psychological damage for those who weren't ready. It was during one of these extreme blood rituals that tragedy struck. In February 1923, Raoul Loveday, a young Oxford student who'd arrived with his wife, Betty Mae participated in a ceremony where participants cut themselves and drank each other's blood from a shared bowl.

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The bowl hadn't been properly sterilized between uses, and within days, Loveday was suffering from acute enteritis, a severe intestinal infection that his drug-weakened immune system couldn't fight off. So within weeks, Loveday was dead.

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The exact cause was disputed, but the combination of poor sanitation, drug use, and the physical stress of intensive practices had clearly weakened his system beyond recovery. His last words, according to witnesses, were a delirious repetition of magical formulas that Crowley had taught him.

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Betty May, his wife, devastated and furious, fled Sicily and went straight to the British press with stories that made the Abbey sound like, you know, this combination between like a brothel and a death cult and a drug den. She described the blood rituals and sexual ceremonies involving multiple partners and the drug orgies that lasted days, and the tabloids just went crazy.

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So young Edward, he started to rebel. And when I mean rebel, I mean like literally the craziest rebellion you can imagine. His father died when he was 11, which only made sense. Things worse for young, you know, Aleister Crowley. And by age 14, he was deliberately breaking every religious rule that he could think of.

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I mean, they were running headlines about the man we'd like to hang and a cannibal at large, and the media... To be honest, they blew the story out of proportion, and it worked in Crowley's favor. I mean, papers all over Europe ran with these claims of satanic rituals and sacrifices and demons, and Crowley became famous. I mean, for all the wrong reasons, but he didn't care, right?

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Parents warned their kids about him, governments kept tabs on him, and even other cultists started backing away from his now infamous reputation. And the final blow came from an unlikely source, Benito Mussolini. Yes, that Mussolini. What's up, guys? We need to talk skincare. That's right. If you've ever heard me on Flagrant or even on this show, I have talked about my love for beef tallow.

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Yes, I'm not talking about some, you know, lab made sludge with 39 syllables and a bunch of chemicals and stuff. I'm talking about good old fashioned beef tallow. Just yes, it's cow fat. I know it sounds crazy, but there's a reason that people have used this for thousands of years.

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This is the moisturizer that your ancestors used before, you know, big lotion and chemicals and pharma companies came and Messed it all up with seed oil scams and chemical cocktails, all right? Tallow has been used for thousands of years.

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The ancient Egyptians walking through the desert, they put on beef tallow to make their skin look good and feel good and not crack and actually hold up in the elements. Greeks and Romans, they used it to heal wounds and keep their skin from looking, you know, like papyrus. And even your great-great-grandma, she probably used it. I don't know. And here's the great thing with beef tallow.

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It's got a bunch of fat-soluble vitamins, A, D, E, and K. And it actually mimics your skin's natural oils because it comes from a living thing. That means your body recognizes it and says, oh, yeah, this is good stuff. And you don't have some crazy reaction. And, you know, not like the $90 serums that smell like eucalyptus or whatever. I use it, my wife steals it, my baby uses it.

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Everyone in the family looks good and feels good with the power of beef tallow. So right before bed, I literally just take like a little finger full, wipe it in my hands and rub it on my face and kind of spread it in evenly. It comes in a bunch of great flavors. It smells amazing. And when I wake up, I feel moisturized and refreshed.

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Just click the link at the top of the video description or go to evil goods dot com slash camp. Do it for your skin. Do it for the cow. Do it for your ancestors. All right. Let's get back to the show. As he worked to tighten his grip on Italy, Mussolini wanted to appear morally strong and having a British occultist running this drug fueled sex commune where people die in Sicily.

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didn't really help his whole vibe, right? So by April, 1923, the government gave Crowley 24 hours to get out of Italy for good. And Crowley didn't fight back. He was like, yeah, you got me. He packed his few remaining possessions and departed Sicily, leaving behind his cult or, you know, whatever you want to call it.

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His mother, Emily, would find him experimenting with what he called impure thoughts and generally acted like, you know, the opposite of everything that she had tried to teach him. He'd masturbate while thinking about religious images. curse during prayers, and do basically anything to horrify his hyper-religious mother. When she called him the beast, he didn't cry or apologize or do anything.

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And now kicked out of Italy and unwelcome across Europe, Crowley entered the last chapter of his life as this sort of a cult magic exile. Years of heavy drug use were catching up to him and, you know, his finances were a mess and his name was too toxic for any normal job. But even as his life fell apart, his ideas started to take on a life of their own.

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So by his final years, Crowley poured what was left of himself into writing and producing some of his most influential work. At this point, he was broke, addicted to heroin, yet still writing books that occultists use today. His daily routine was a mix between addiction and productivity. He'd start the day with heroin, you know, just to stop the shakes.

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Then used a little bit of cocaine just to kind of focus and write for a few hours. And then in the afternoon, he would, you know, maybe be using like opium or hash to spark up mystical ideas, followed by slightly more heroin in the evening to dull the pain. And then this cycle went on daily.

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and weekly, and monthly, and yearly, and he documented it all in his magical diary, treating his drug use like a personal experiment. This is when he wrote some of the most powerful and disturbing books, like Magic Without Tears and The Book of Toth, which contain insights into consciousness and reality that wouldn't be matched by... you know, a lot of academic researchers even for a long time.

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And honestly, it explains a lot about what comes next. You may have heard of this guy. You know, you probably heard him in Ozzy Osbourne songs or, you know, rock and roll lore. But his real story is all the more fascinating. And today we go through everything, where he's from, what he believes, and why he is so popular amongst occultists around the world. So sit back, relax, and welcome to camp.

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But alongside the deep insights were the signs of decline. I mean, everything from paranoid rants about these imagined enemies and delusions of persecution and the kind of warped thinking that comes from years of spending, you know, time convinced that you're in direct contact with these otherworldly beings. It seemed like Crowley was losing it.

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What's remarkable is that even in this deteriorated state Crowley was attracting new followers who would carry on his ideas into completely unexpected territory. I mean one of the most significant was a young American rocket scientist named Jack Parsons. He discovered Crowley's work in the 1930s and became convinced that magical rituals could literally contact alien intelligence.

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Parsons wasn't just dabbling in the cult. He was a serious scientist. That was his job. He helped pioneer rocket propulsions at Caltech, co-founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and developed solid fuel tech that NASA still relies on today. But outside the lab... he was an all-in Crowley occultist.

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At night, he would host these elaborate, you know, Thelemic rituals at his Pasadena mansion, mixing, you know, the science with full-blown occult practices. I mean, here's a picture of him holding a flashlight. So, I mean, if that isn't, if that isn't, you know, just a full-on indicator of who this guy was. Yeah, Jack Parsons, the famed, you know, Thelemite, the Crowley follower. Yeah.

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The link between, you know, these rocket scientists and occultism sounds kind of weird, but to Parsons, it made a ton of sense. Rockets broke free from Earth's gravity. Magic breaks free from the limits of the mind. They both are pushing boundaries outwards, you know, dealing with these powerful, unpredictable forces and both demanded a lot of precision. and a lot of guts.

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For Parsons, there was no contradiction in, you know, crunching fuel formulas by day and then summoning these Egyptian gods by night. It was all the same quest. Stuck in London and low on cash, Crowley was thrilled to have this, you know, wealthy American follower like Parsons like sending him money. And they actually kept in close contact.

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Crowley dished out detailed magical instructions and Parsons would write with some updates in his experiments, maybe a little bit of cash. And to Crowley, Parsons was basically a remote lab, someone who could try out these costly rituals that Crowley was too broke or worn out to do himself. So by 1945, Parsons decided to attempt Crowley's most ambitious magical operation.

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This was the Babylon Working, a series of rituals designed to summon the Scarlet Woman prophesied in the Book of the Law. This wasn't just about contacting, you know, the spiritual woman. Parsons believed he could literally incarnate the goddess Babylon in human form, creating a divine being who would usher in Crowley's new Aeon.

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He almost embraced it and wore it like this badge of honor. His mother doubled down on the religious intensity, convinced that Satan was literally possessing her kid. And the more she pushed religion, the harder he pushed back. So by the time he reached his late teens, Edward had decided that Christianity wasn't just wrong, but it was actively harmful.

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For this operation, Parsons recruited an assistant who would become one of the most controversial figures in the 20th century. This assistant, his name was... L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. At the time, Hubbard was just a struggling science fiction writer with an interest in the occult, but he threw himself into Parsons' magical work.

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Together, they performed weeks of intensive sexual magical rituals using techniques that Crowley had developed during his years in the Abbey. The Babylon Working was a series of rituals where Parsons and Hubbard tried to summon a goddess using sex and symbolism and altered states, all the things that Crowley had taught them.

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And they set up rooms with Egyptian-style decorations and performed long invocations and used sex as a tool to build the energy that they believed was needed. Parsons believed the ritual worked when he met Marjorie Cameron. A red haired artist who to him perfectly embodied, you know, this wild divine energy he'd been trying to summon. I mean, this horny motherfucker.

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He became convinced that she was the one that she was the, you know, the Scarlet Woman that he was looking for. And their relationship quickly turned into this intense romance and spiritual worship. But back in England, Crowley was skeptical of the whole thing, right? He couldn't help being curious about these bold claims that he was hearing. But Crowley's over here being like, yo, did you...

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did a giant piece of smoke and a woman come out of like a closet or something? He's like, no, I met this girl on the train. He's like, dude, that's not, can you focus? I'm trying to, I'm trying to perform magic. And Parsons was like, dude, I've met this baddie. It was absolute joint. So the Babylon working didn't end the way that anyone really expected. So Hubbard, uh,

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took off with a large sum of Parsons' money and his girlfriend leaving Parsons not only broke, but single. And there was something even stranger. Some theorists believe that the rituals Parsons and Hubbard performed didn't just mess with their personal lives. They maybe...

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or literally opened a doorway, a portal, they claim, that let extraterrestrial entities start interacting with humans more often. Whether that's wild speculation or not, one thing is clear that the late 1940s was the start of modern UFO culture. And strangely enough, many of those early alien encounter stories sound a lot like the visions and experiences Crowley had been writing about for years.

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Beings like light and symbols and messages from beyond. Crowley's influence was also spreading through less obvious channels. His idea about expanding consciousness and exploring altered states started showing up in early psychedelic research, right? You have thinkers like Aldous Huxley, who was experimenting with mescaline in ways that echoed Crowley's magical experiences almost exactly.

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At the same time, intelligence agencies were working quietly to and studying his techniques too, not for spirituality, but for their own potential and psychological warfare, interrogation, and mind control. Think about the operations such as MKUltra, which would use LSD in the attempt to mind control people to do things against their will.

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So once again, Crowley's legacy was slipping into science, culture, psychology, and even espionage. I believe the song Mr. Crowley by Ozzy Osbourne is about this infamous man, one and the same. Crowley had died on December 1st, 1947, in a run-down boarding house in Hastings, England. According to those that were there, his final words were, I am perplexed.

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He started calling his mother a brainless bigot to her face and announced that he was changing his name. From now on, he would be Alistair Crowley, spelled with a theatrical E-I because it looked more... mysterious and Celtic. It was his first real act of self-creation, right? Turning himself into someone completely different from the brethren boy that his parents tried to raise him to be.

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After 72 years chasing the hidden truths of the universe through magic, drugs, sex, rituals, all that, even he wasn't sure what it all added up to. His funeral turned into one final scandal. The British press expected a quiet burial, a final chance to, you know, bury the man and his legacy. But Crowley's followers had other plans.

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They wanted a public ceremony, reading aloud from the Book of Law and performing thelemic rituals right over his coffin. And death was just the beginning of Crowley's real influence. I mean, within decades, his face would appear on the most famous cover in rock history. You know, Sergeant Peppers, if we can pull that up.

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His philosophy would inspire countercultural movements across the globe, and his magical techniques would be studied by everyone from NASA to pop stars seeking creative inspiration. So Crowley dies in 47, but his name does not die with him. By the 1960s, counterculture was like rocket fuel for Crowley's posthumous reputation.

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Suddenly, a generation of young people that was rejecting the conventional religious experience started experimenting with psychedelic drugs and embracing sexual liberation. What does this sound like? Sounds a little like Aleister Crowley. And they basically began doing everything that Crowley had been preaching since 1904.

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His motto, Do As Thou Wilt, became the unofficial slogan for the hippie movement in the 60s, even though most of the kids chanting it had no idea where it came from. But the real breakthrough came when rock musicians started discovering his work. These weren't casual fans.

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Major artists became genuinely obsessed with Crowley's magical philosophy and started incorporating it into their music and personas. I mean, Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin was probably the most serious Crowley devotee in rock history. In 1970, Page actually bought Crowley's former mansion. The Bolskine house on the shores of Loch Ness in Scotland.

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This wasn't just, you know, a celebrity real estate purchase. Page was convinced that the house retained a magical energy energy from Crowley's rituals and wanted to tap into that power for his own creative work. He filled the place with Crowley's books, magical artifacts, and even some of the original furnishings from Crowley's home. Page didn't just live in Crowley's house.

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He studied his magical system seriously enough to influence Led Zeppelin's music. The band's mysterious symbols, including Jimmy Page's personal sigil that appears on Led Zeppelin's fourth studio album, were derived directly from Crowley's magical writings. And if we can get an image here of the Zoso symbol,

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When Page played guitar solos that seemed to channel otherworldly energy, he genuinely believed that he was using techniques that Crowley had developed for contacting these supernatural forces. So on the back of this album, even on the T-shirt that I wear on a regular basis, my favorite Led Zeppelin shirt, it has this symbol, this Zoso symbol.

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And it is arguably the most controversial symbol of, you know, the entire Zeppelin anthology. And one of the theories, you know, is found in the book, The Collective Works Volume One by Alistair Crowley, when a symbol was found that closely resembled the logo on one of Jimmy's pages.

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Jimmy Page never explained what the symbol was, and the only one he told was Robert Plant, who later forgot the meaning. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because you are a grown child. Yes, you're a giant man child, and you just love stuffing your face and all the sugary cereals you ate when you were a kid.

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So by 1895, Alistair headed to Trinity College in Cambridge, ostensibly to study philosophy. But Cambridge in the 1890s was where young men went to discover themselves. And Crowley got into all sorts of shit. He dove headfirst into poetry, writing about, you know, graphic sexuality and blasphemy and everything that his mother would have just hated.

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Magic Spoon on Amazon or at your nearest grocery store. Or you can go to magicspoon.com slash camp C-A-M-P for $5 off. Now let's get back to the show, you fatty. But the moment that truly pushed Crowley into... the mainstream of pop culture, came in 1967 when the Beatles featured his face on the iconic cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, one of the great albums of all time.

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And there he is, second from the left on the very top row, surrounded by other cultural icons the band wanted to honor. Paul McCartney later explained that they chose people who had shaped their worldview. In Crowley's rebellious philosophy about breaking free from societal norms,

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clearly struck a chord it was a subtle nod but one that introduced millions to the great beast without ever saying a word now think for a second The most popular band in history put the face of the wickedest man in the world on their most famous album cover. Teenagers who had never heard of occultism or Thelema were suddenly staring at Crowley's image every time they played their favorite record.

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David Bowie, as a matter of fact, took it farther than most. He didn't just reference Crowley. He tapped into his ideas, things like transformation, identity, treating life as this type of art project,

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where you know these these are fundamental ideas central to both men with characters like ziggy stardust and then you know thin white duke bowie constantly reinvents himself almost like crowley's magical personas for bowie it wasn't just about image it was using this persona as a way to explore and reshape reality ozzy osbourne like i had mentioned before

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He leaned into the shock value of his song. Mr. Crowley played upon the spooky, mysterious vibe and helped cement Crowley's place in rock mythology. And even Iron Maiden gave him nods in songs about mysticism and the occult. Punk bands, they enjoyed his anti-authoritarian energy. And rock artists were more into the depth of his philosophy.

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Crowley's influence shows up all over music, just in different ways.

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sometimes as you know a rebellious icon other times as a symbol of creative freedom but crowley's influence was far beyond music his ideas about consciousness were you know at the same time influencing academic research into psychology and neuroscience scientists studied altered states of consciousness were rediscovering techniques that crowley had been doing since 1890 specifically researchers in creativity in peak performance found that his methods for achieving

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A magical consciousness that he writes about in many of his books was wildly similar to what academics would call in modern times the flow state and the human potential of the 1970s and 80s, you could argue, was borrowing heavily from some of Crowley's techniques, often without acknowledgement, right?

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And he even explored his sexuality, not only with women, but with men too, which could actually get you thrown into prison in Victorian England. But more importantly, he discovered the occult. It started with books. Crowley was always a big reader, and once he got his hands on works about magic and mysticism, esoteric philosophy, he couldn't stop.

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I mean, like rebirth therapy and a bunch of different new age practices used the same psychological methods that Crowley had developed for his magical initiations. The idea that you could completely transform your personality through, you know, these intensive experiential workshops came from his magical curriculum. And the internet age has only expanded Crowley's reach.

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I mean, online communities focused on chaos magic and art and self-transformation ideas often treat him like, you know, a foundational figure His books are easy to find online and his rituals and the techniques get shared in forums, Reddit threads, YouTube breakdowns, all sorts of stuff. And they continue to kind of spread and evolve a lot of his messages for better or for worse.

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What started as this underground philosophy now goes through digital spaces and remixes Crowley's work for this entire new generation. And his legacy is messy and polarizing. But to be honest with you, that's kind of what he wanted. Right. Like that's like the whole point. He is chaos. He's the wickedest man to ever live.

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His own, you know, his own terms breaking, you know, ground on all these different things of magic and psychedelics and sexual liberation. This was all part of his plan in some way, right? He wanted people to view him as this sort of spooky occult figure. And love him or hate him, you can't ignore him. That's the point.

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Crowley cracked something open in Western culture that never closed, whether it was a portal to aliens or just his ideas about freedom and self-expression. Do what you will, not what society tells you. This core idea of Thelema slipped into everything from the 60s onward, you know, from rock and roll albums to occult circles to self-help books.

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So, you know, the kid dubbed the Beast by his mom became just that. Maybe Satan, maybe something weirder. And even people who've never heard his name before are still, in a way, affected by his influence. I don't know. Seems like magic, if you ask me. So there you have it. That is the life of Alistair Crowley.

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Now, if you are an occultist or someone that's fascinated by the occult, I would love to know, did I miss anything? Was there anything that we got wrong? And if you're just a casual observer of the strange and weird and you like to dive into these weird rabbit holes, what did you think? What did you find about Crowley's work and how he kind of predicted the social change? fabric of the 1960s.

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He really called it out and knew exactly what was going to happen. And in a way, he was right. Was that just a lucky guess? Could you see the writing on the wall? Or did he get influence from some type of outside prophetic force? These are questions that I don't have the answers to, but maybe you do. So drop them in. I'll be reading all of them. And once again, we do this every single week.

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I would love for you guys to join me in my tent to explore the weirdest, strangest, darkest stories from around the world from all times. And without further ado, I will see you next time. Thank you for camping with us. Peace be with you. No.

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As you know, I was raised by a conspiracy theorist, so I'm going to be diving deep into all of the interesting, strange, occult, and secretive societal relationships that all of these famous influential men from our shared past have. So if you're interested, please go ahead and subscribe to the YouTube channel. It will be pinned in the description as well as the comments.

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He devoured everything from medieval grim wars to contemporary works on spiritualism. He read about ancient Egyptian mysteries, Hindu tantra, even Buddhist meditation techniques. And this wasn't just academic curiosity. Crowley genuinely believed that hidden knowledge existed, and he was determined to find it.

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So at Cambridge, he also realized that he had a gift, not just for writing, but for making jaws drop. I mean, this boy was a full-time jaw dropper. He wrote a collection of erotic poems called White Stains that was so explicit, no mainstream publisher would touch it.

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Literally, we're talking about detailed descriptions of literally every sexual act imaginable mixed with religious blasphemy and, you know, all sorts of debauchery. And the poems weren't just dirty. They were spiritually dirty, treated sex, you know, treating sex is like the sacred act that could connect you to the divine.

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Basically, you know, what we'll get into later is, you know, sex magic, right? He had to publish it privately and anonymously, but it circulated underground and established his reputation as someone willing to cross all the lines. So by 1898, Crowley had left Cambridge without a degree, but with something special. a little more valuable. A mission. A clear sense of purpose.

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He saw religion as fake, morality as a cage, and normal life as dull. But what he really wanted was this truth, this spiritual truth, the kind... that he thought, you know, Christianity had buried under guilt and rules. And that's when he discovered the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. This was a secret society that promised to teach genuine magical techniques.

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If you, you know, watched our episode on secret societies, you probably remember these guys. Founded in 1888, the Golden Dawn was where London's occult elite originated. gathered to study ceremonial magic. But not just that, alchemy, mysticism. Members included poets like W.B.

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Yeats, authors like Arthur Mackin, and other various intellectuals who believed that ancient wisdom could be rediscovered through study and ritual practice. So Crowley joined in 1898, just 10 years after it had formed, and he threw himself into the work. But if you thought this was just some regular old cult, you'd be wrong.

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The Golden Dawn taught a complex system of correspondences between colors, numbers, Hebrew letters, astrological symbols, magical operations, all sorts of crazy stuff. And the students progressed through grades, learning increasingly advanced techniques for what they called spiritual development. Crowley mastered... the material pretty quickly.

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What's up, people, and welcome back to camp. My name is Mark Gagnon, and welcome to my tent, where every single week we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from around the world from all times. As always, I'm joined by the very handsome 6'5", and bustling muscles, Christos. How are you, Christos? What's going on? All right, all right.

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But he also started pushing boundaries once again that made other members uncomfortable. The problem was that Crowley treated magic like an extreme sport, where other Golden Dawn members approached rituals with respect and reverence.

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Crowley just went full throttle, going crazy and experimenting with drugs during the ceremonies and incorporating sexual elements that horrified the other magicians and all sorts of stuff. And the breaking point came in the 1900s, specifically 1900.

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Crowley had advanced quickly through the Golden Dawn's grading system, but when he tried to initiate himself into the highest level without proper authorization... The Order's leaders had had enough, and they kicked him out for being too chaotic, too experimental, and frankly, just too weird for the group of, you know, these proper Victorian occultists.

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But being kicked from the Golden Dawn didn't slow him down. Now he was free to develop his own approach to magic without... really anyone telling him what to do. He started traveling and mixing like Eastern philosophies of Western occultism and combinations that no one had ever tried.

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He studied yoga in India and practiced Buddhism and learned about Taoism and Taoist alchemy in China, but he wasn't trying to find himself Crowley was learning techniques building towards something bigger. He also started to experiment seriously with drugs as like a spiritual tool. So at the time, opium, hash, cocaine, mescaline, all these substances were somewhat prevalent.

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I mean, I wouldn't say widespread, but you could find them and it could alter life. your consciousness in a pretty significant way. And Crowley tried it in combination with magical rituals. He kept detailed reports of these experiments, treating his own mind as a lab for exploring these altered states of consciousness decades before psychedelic research actually became respectable.

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And all of this led to the spring of 1904, when Crowley was in Cairo with his wife, Rose. They were honeymooning, but Crowley just, you know, being Crowley, He'd also arranged to perform magical rituals in the king's chamber of the Great Pyramid. At this time, it was much easier to get access to these giant artifacts.

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So Rose, who normally showed little interest in her husband's little occult hobby, started acting strangely. She began talking about Horus, the ancient Egyptian god, insisting that he was trying to communicate... Something important? And Crowley was skeptical at first, right?

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Rose didn't know anything about Egyptian mythology, but when she led him to a Cairo museum and pointed to a specific Stella numbered 666, which Crowley almost took as a cosmic joke about his little nickname, That is when he started to pay attention.

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Rose told him that Horace wanted him to prepare for a revelation and that he should sit in his hotel room at noon for three consecutive days to receive a message. And what happened next... changed everything. April 8th, 9th, and 10th in 1904, Crowley sat in his Cairo hotel room and claimed to receive a dictation from a preternatural intelligence calling itself

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So, let's begin our study of Alistair Crowley. I heard about this guy when I was just a kid. My mom would talk to me about Aleister Crowley and be like, yeah, he was very evil. He's a very evil man. He was a Satanist and he was an occultist and he would do all sorts of evil things. And I didn't really know anything else about him. To be honest, I never really dug into it.

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This wasn't a gentle spiritual whisper either. According to Crowley, Iwas spoke in a clear authoritative voice that seemed to come from just over his left shoulder. The entity dictated exactly 220 verses over three days, creating the text that Crowley would call the book of law. The book claimed a new spiritual age had begun, the eon of Horus.

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It would replace Christianity's focus on guilt and self-denial with a new idea, with the central tenet being, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Not do whatever you want in a hedonistic sense, but discover your true will and follow it regardless of people, whatever people say.

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The book proclaimed that every person was like a star, a unique cosmic entity with its own perfect orbit that shouldn't be deflected by others' moral systems. And Crowley spent the rest of his life trying to understand what his spiritual message really meant. That's when he created a new belief system called Thelema. A Greek word means will.

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And it was basically a complete religion of philosophy built around will. the book of law. Unlike Christianity, which teaches people to deny themselves and serve God, Thelema flipped the idea. It told people to figure out who they truly are and then fully live that truth. Instead of treating the body as something sinful, Thelema saw physical life as something holy.

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And rather than following rules from the outside sources like, you know, churches or leaders or pastors or gurus, Thelemites were expected to become their own source of truth and guidance. So, by 1905, Crowley had developed a theory that would have made his Plymouth brethren mother die of shock, probably. He believed that sexual climax was the most powerful magical force available to human beings.

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From his perspective, at the moment of orgasm, you are completely present, your ego dissolves, and you experience something that feels... For someone convinced that consciousness could be expanded through ritual, this seemed like the obvious place to start experimenting. But this wasn't just about having a good time and calling it spiritual.

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Crowley approached sex magic with the same systematic intensity he brought to everything else. He started to incorporate bodily fluids like semen and vaginal secretions and blood all into his magical rituals, believing that these contained concentrated life force that could power these supernatural operations.

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It just didn't really affect my life. All I knew as a kid was that he talked to demons that maybe were aliens, which we'll get to in a second. And he was in some rock and roll songs. And that's basically it. But, like I said... The actual details of his life are far more interesting. So let's go back. October 12th, 1875 in Leamington Spa, England.

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It's also worth mentioning when I say magic, I'm not talking about like stage magic or like card tricks. I'm talking about people that claim to actually have magical abilities, often spelt ending in CK. This is the type of magic that Crowley was interested, not trickery, but truly these types of rituals that would try to bring some type of supernatural force.

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And he would perform these elaborate ceremonies where sexual acts became offerings to these Egyptian gods with every climax, you know, carefully directed towards these magical goals. And his lovers weren't just partners. They became what he called scarlet women, named after the whore of Babylon from, you know, Revelation.

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In Crowley's theology, these women embodied divine chaos and creative destruction. They were goddesses incarnate. Having sex with them was literally... communing with the sacred feminine Rose, his wife, the first scarlet woman, but Crowley being Crowley, of course, monogamy wasn't going to contain his spiritual ambitions for a long time.

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The breakthrough came after the arrest of several cult members at the ranch, including Bustamante, Serafin, and Salinas. Under the interrogation, the suspects described their leader as the godfather, El Padrino, the Cuban-American magician that we now know as Adolfo Costanzo. And this led them to uncovering the brutal rituals that promised this supernatural protection.

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They also identified Sarah Aldrete, known as La Madrina, the godmother, as Constanzo's second-in-command and ritual leader. These confessions allowed police to confirm the identities of Constanzo and Aldrete, although their exact whereabouts remain unknown.

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After several hours of interrogation, police showed the detainees a photo of Mark Kilroy and under the questioning, cult member Serafin Hernandez confessed that Adolfo Constanzo had ordered Kilroy's murder as a part of a Palo Mayombe ritual involving torture and human sacrifice. So by April 11th, police brought the arrested cult members to the Santa Elena Ranch.

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There, the investigators were overwhelmed by by the stench of death as they entered into the shack with the ritual objects. I mean, an altar, pots, cauldrons, beads, coins, animal remains, and in the center, this large iron cauldron, the nganga, containing blood, brain matter, animal parts, goats, bones, horseshoes, everything you can imagine for their ritual means.

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Guided by the cultists, police then uncovered 15 shallow graves containing the bodies of their victims. Mark Kilroy's remains were found about a meter deep. His legs had been cut off, his brain removed and boiled in the Nganga, and the dental records confirmed his identity. Throughout the day, officers exhumed body after body, many showing the same type of torture.

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The discovery shocked authorities and police, exposing the full horror of the cult's ritual killings. But the question still remains, where is Adolfo and Sarah? They had fled Matamoros. with several other cult members after the police raided the ranch.

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They traveled through northern Mexico, eventually reaching Mexico City, where they basically relied on their criminal contacts and even bribery to evade capture. So for nearly a month, Constanzo and his inner circle moved between safe house to safe house, from apartment to apartment, growing increasingly paranoid and violent as the manhunt intensified.

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Convinced that both law enforcement and supernatural forces were closing in, Constanzo destroyed large amounts of cash and evidence and even considered fleeing the country entirely. Until May 6, 1989, Constanzo's luck finally ran out. Acting on a tip from neighbors who noticed some suspicious activity, Mexican police surrounded an apartment complex in a small neighborhood in Mexico City.

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Inside, Constanzo, Sarah Aldrete, and several other cult members were holed up in one of the upper floors. And as police closed in, Constanzo began throwing bundles of money and coins and... anything else he could find reportedly to distract officers or try to appease these supernatural forces.

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And when police prepared to storm the apartment, Constanzo opened fire, creating this massive, prolonged shootout. Now realizing that he was trapped and refusing to be captured alive, Constanzo ordered his follower, Alvaro de Leon Valdez, to shoot him and his close associate, Martin Quintana Rodriguez. De Leon complied, killing Constanzo and Quintina just as police broke through the door.

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Sara Aldrete, the godmother of the cult, and some of the other surviving cult members surrendered and were taken into custody. Sara Aldrete was charged. with multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, and involvement in organized crime. She was convicted and sentenced to 62 years in prison, which is shockingly low, if you ask me, where she remains to this day.

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And this would lead authorities to uncover one of the most... F the brutal criminal cases in modern history. The investigation exposed a drug trafficking cult led by Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo, a Cuban-American known as El Padrino. This is the godfather in English.

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Other cult members, including Serafin Hernandez, Elio Hernandez, and Martin Quintana, were also arrested, tried, and sentenced to long-term prison sentences for their roles in the murders and the kidnapping.

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And the discovery of the cult and its rituals really took a toll on Mexico and the United States, leading to widespread media coverage and a crackdown on these occult-related crimes in the region.

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The case also exposed this deep corruption within the local law enforcement as several officers were found to have been complicit or potentially strategically negligent in allowing the cult to operate for so long.

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Mark Kilroy's murder became a symbol for the dangers faced by young travelers in border regions and even led to increased cooperation between the United States and Mexican authorities in combating the drug cartels and these sort of rare but disturbing occult crimes.

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So the story of Adolfo Constanzo and his cult remains one of the most strange and morbid and notorious criminal cases in Mexican history. I mean, books, documentaries and films have been made about these, quote, narco satanists. And the events at Rancho Santa Elena continue to be studied by criminologists and historians as bizarre.

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This sort of morbid example of the intersection between organized crime and occult beliefs and mass murder. And even just recently, in March of 2025, there was actually a report put out by CNN of a secret crematorium at a ranch in Mexico, not unlike the one that was found in Matamoros. So this one was found in Jalisco, if you wouldn't mind scrolling down, Christos.

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It was found in Jalisco, and I believe, if my memory serves me correct, that this was a massive crematorium that has at least three crematoriums with incinerated skeletal remains hidden under a layer of the earth and a brick slab.

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The people that found it said that they also found dozens of personal items such as clothing, shoes, backpacks, IDs, and a bunch of, you know, lists of names and nicknames.

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A representative told CNN that the existence of these, quote, forced recruitment and extermination centers was an open secret that they, but they had never actually seen one until March when the group she leads managed to enter the ranch near Tenochtitlan. I mean, that is crazy.

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So I'm assuming this is done by the cartels where they have these like detention centers where they basically just get rid of people. But it's like so organized. This is not just like a hole in the ground that they're putting people in. This is like a proper extermination camp where they just process their enemies and people that they're trying to get rid of. I mean, that is crazy.

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I wonder how many of these there are. I mean, not far from... like, America. Like, this isn't, like, across the world. This is a three-hour flight away where, like, there's just, like, these open, like, extermination. That's fucking crazy. I mean, scroll down a little more. What were we gonna say?

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Oh, yeah. I mean, it seems like there's a clear connect. Because, like, if these guys are occultists, then they're like, okay, we're gonna need this guy. Human sacrifice is no big deal because we're already killing people. And, uh, yeah, you gotta wonder if there's, like,

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Maybe even a way that the cartels benefit even if they don't believe or if the cartels are like hey We can get this guy to kill our enemies We can just deliver them to him and then have him do it and we don't even have to get our hands dirty I mean, yeah, it seems like there's a a very a very strong connection with these narco Satanists I mean, that is crazy.

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Constanzo's group blended elements of Palo Mayombe and other Afro-Caribbean religions, twisting them into these violent, brutal rituals, many of which...

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Yeah, I wonder how prevalent it is even in the modern day. It looks like there's an article from the New York Times. It talks about Mexican drug lords using darker forces of Santeria. If the cartel wasn't bad enough. Right? What happened to the American mobs? Like the mobsters in America, they were proper Catholics. They were Italians. They loved the Lord. They went to church every Sunday.

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They baptized their kids. What happened, Mexico? Why are your bad guys so bad? You're killing people, but you don't have to be all Satanist about it.

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Yeah, that's a good point. How that happens. That's a good point. Well, yeah, this is a disturbing case. I mean, it's crazy that you have these Satanists that are so deep in organized crime. Like, I think people hear Satanists and they're like, no one really does that. This is just like grungy emo teenagers. Like, no one's actually a Satanist. Well, here you go.

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This is a guy not that long ago that was running an entire camp. And there's potentially way more of these guys out there. I mean, I don't mess with any of that voodoo shit. That just scares me. Speaking of which, I got to get this place blessed. I had a priest hit me up recently and be like, hey, you should get your place blessed.

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I like that. We should do that. Yeah, we should run that up, dude. Just better safe than sorry, right? Why play with it, you know? So anyway, this has been another episode of Camp. Let me know what you think. Please drop a comment. I'd love to know what you guys are thinking. And you can see me on the road, Mark Yagnon Live, where I'll be doing stand-up comedy, having a great time.

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You can also check out Religion Camp and soon History Camp, Conspiracy Camp, Occult Camp. I don't know what we're going to call it, but you guys can check it all out. We'll have links in the description and the comments. We'll see you guys next time. Peace. What's up, people? Quick announcement.

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involving human sacrifice the cult's activities which included murder and ritualistic mutilation of kilroy and others drew a ton of international attention and highlighted the dangers of criminal groups basically taking religion and religious imagery for their own ends so How did we get here? Let's go all the way back to the beginning, right?

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If you are a fan of Camp Gagnon or Religion Camp, I have great news because we are dropping History Camp. That's right. This is the channel where we're going to be exploring the most interesting, fascinating, controversial topics from all time throughout all history. Right? You probably know about Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Nikola Tesla.

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Interesting figures from history and you probably learned about them in school and they were pretty boring, but not here. No. As you know, I was raised by a conspiracy theorist, so I'm going to be diving deep into all of the interesting, strange, occult, and secretive societal relationships that all of these famous influential men from our shared past have.

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Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo was born in 1962 in Miami, Florida, to Cuban immigrant parents. He was the eldest of several children from many different fathers and was raised Catholic. He got baptized, was an altar boy, but his mother, Delia Arroyo Gonzalez. She practiced Santeria and later became involved in Palo Mayombe. This is a Afro-Caribbean religious tradition with roots in West Africa.

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And after the death of her first husband, she moved to Puerto Rico, specifically San Juan, where she became more deeply involved in this Pablo Mayombe and introduced Adolfo to these practices, kind of blending them with their Catholic background. And while Santeria and Pablo Mayombe have their own spiritual and moral codes, Constanzo and his mother practiced them in ways that

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vastly diverged from the mainstream tradition. So 1972, they've returned to Miami. And over those years, his mother got married three different times. Her last partner kind of shared similar beliefs, practicing occultism, and also happened to sell drugs. I mean, I feel like those things go hand in hand, you know what I mean? Like doing drugs and being just a straight up Satanist. Sorry, Satanist.

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So for these guys, they're like, hey, we can just sacrifice this person because we're already committing murder, and we can use this sacrifice to then protect ourselves. This is what they actually thought. Adolfo decided that the cult needed to sacrifice an American, believing that it would strengthen their rituals and protect the group from law enforcement, specifically in America.

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I shouldn't judge. I'm trying to be better. So Constanzo kind of was on his path, right? After leaving high school, his behavior grows more. and more criminal. Him and his mother get arrested several times for shoplifting, and he actually gets expelled from his high school for bad conduct. And instead of, you know, kind of fixing his path, he continues to practice what his mother had taught him.

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She convinces him that he's special and that he actually has psychic abilities. To predict the future. So as a teenager, he befriended this Palo Mayombe priest who actually taught him these advanced rituals for success. So by 1980, with his newfound knowledge and connections, he offered his services as a black magician himself.

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And it wasn't until 1983 that friends told him about an amazing opportunity, this lucrative modeling opportunity in Mexico. So what does he do? He moves to the Zona Rosa in Mexico City, quickly finding, you know, prosperity and connections and some good success. And maybe the Palo Mayombe was paying off, right? Yeah.

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So he was known as being kind of charismatic and pretty good looking and allegedly had some relationships with both men and women. So he sets up his own business, kind of offering protection and purification rituals that he Start to actually make him some good money. And not only does it bring him some money, it brings him connections.

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So as the story goes, he starts attracting these high profile Mexican personalities. I mean, from politicians, actors, cartel members, police officers, everyone is now going to this guy in this town, in this part of Mexico City. to get his spiritual services. So during this time, he continues to immerse himself in satiria.

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His ambition for power leads him now to practice rituals involving sacrifice of animals, and then that slowly progresses to human sacrifice and even cannibalism. I mean, you're hearing me, right? Straight up eating human beings.

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And still, his popularity grows so much that he actually travels across Mexico, including Matamoros and larger and larger cities throughout the country where he starts to associate with criminal organizations. And again, he offers them this type of spiritual protection in exchange for these massive sums of money. Soon, he establishes his operations in Matamoros.

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So by the 80s, Constanzo's criminal activities escalate as he starts to perform these rituals involving human sacrifice for drug traffickers, because, again, these drug traffickers in the cartels at the time and, you know, even to this day. They're moving insane amounts of drugs. It's extremely violent and they're making a ton of money.

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So how does he get these people involved? How does he get the people to actually carry out these rituals? So let's go all the way back to the beginning. What's up, people, and welcome back to camp.

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So for these guys, they're like, hey, we can just sacrifice this person because we're already committing murder and we can use this sacrifice to then protect ourselves. This is what they actually thought. So they're going to Constanzo to actually perform these black magic rituals for them. And he was even aided by different women that he was sleeping with.

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So Martin Quinta Rodriguez and Omar Orea Ochoa, who he had recruited in Mexico City. So in 1987, Constanzo orchestrates a staged meeting with a college student from Texas. This is insane how manipulative this guy is.

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So this woman named Sarah Aldrete, this is just a girl that goes to college in Texas, and he basically nearly collides with her in his car, kind of making it look like this serendipitous moment. And from that moment, he starts to gradually draw her into his world, exploiting her connections to the Hernandez drug trafficking family.

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Aldrete introduces Constanzo to Elio Hernandez, a cartel leader in the area, and he becomes Elio Hernandez's high priest, participating in rituals that include torture and murder. So how does he get these people involved? How does he get the people to actually carry out these rituals?

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So new recruits, often men in their early 20s, were indoctrinated through hands-on participation in these violent ceremonies. So Constanzo claimed that his magic could make them invincible to law enforcement. He promised...

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Basically, you know, by his alliances with corrupt federal police that nothing would ever happen if they went on with the torture and abuse and murder of these different people for the gods, for Satan, really.

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So the cult's financing came from the drug profits and, you know, fees for these sort of occult spiritual practices with Constanzo flaunting wealth from, you know, luxury cars to gold jewelry to kind of legitimize that this was actually serving some type of spiritual power. So, in the following years, some events began to occur in Matamoros.

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Police discovered eight bodies, mutilated, tortured, tied to cement blocks near a river. And they couldn't explain what had happened, but they were extremely disturbed by what they found. The cult set up operations at a place known as Rancho Santa Elena. This is a remote ranch outside of the city of Matamoros.

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My name is Mark Gagnon, and welcome to my tent, where every week, twice a week, we have some of the most interesting interviews or deep dives into the most fascinating, strange, controversial stories from all time from around the world throughout the universe. This is my tent, where I do all of this every week. I'm joined by my friend Christos over there on the shiny buttons. How are you?

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And it was there that they prepared this cauldron known in Palo Mayombe, known as Nganga. And this was used for protection against these evil spirits. And the ingredients that they used inside of this cauldron to create this elixir was a mix of wood and cigar parts and... animal pieces and human ribs and tibias and skulls with the brain still.

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I mean, everything you could imagine as far as like an evil, evil satanic stew. And they believed that the brain was integral to creating this, you know, sort of concoction because it retained the human power, the life force of the victim that they took it from.

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So white victims were specifically sought after as the tradition within this cult kind of believed that the brains were more powerful, that they were more potent. And torture was a key element in these sacrifices. So on one occasion... One of the victims was Gilberto Sosa, a former police officer turned drug dealer. And Sara Aldrete ordered him hung and then submerged him in boiling water.

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And while he screamed, Sara cut into his chest with scissors to subject him to even more brutal torture. ultimately turning his body into this concoction, which then they all consumed, believing that it would fill them with power. And these atrocities at Rancho Santa Elena are still considered among the worst tragedies in Mexican history. So that takes us back to the abduction of Mark Kilroy.

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March 14th, 1989, Adolfo Constanzo decided that the cult needed to sacrifice an American, believing that it would strengthen their rituals and protect the group from law enforcement, specifically in America. So during spring break, Constanzo and his followers targeted American college students in Matamoros, Mexico.

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Mark Kilroy, a 21-year-old pre-med student from the University of Texas, was separated from his friends in the early morning hours of March 15th as they walked towards the border. Colt members Serafin Hernandez, posing as a police officer, approached Kilroy, showed a badge, and told him that he was under arrest.

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Kilroy was then led to a waiting vehicle and driven several miles to the Santa Elena Ranch controlled by the cult. He was then held overnight, tied up, and the next day was killed in this brutal satanic ritual. His skull was later found in a cauldron used for the cult's ceremonies.

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So meanwhile, Mark's friends, unable to find him after hours of searching, tell the local authorities and contact his parents, who then quickly travel to the border area to help with the search. Over the following days, police in Matamoros and Brownsville checked hospitals and jails and morgues while Border Patrol agents searched the Rio Grande. But still, there was no trace of Mark.

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His parents distributed flyers and offered a $15,000 reward just for information. Again, working closely with both the U.S. and the Mexican officials, And the case soon drew the involvement of the FBI and other US agencies and gained national attention. But despite these efforts, there was no immediate leads on his whereabouts. What's up, guys?

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All right, all right, all right. So today we have a fascinating, morbid, and dark story that, I'll be honest, kind of freaked me out. If you know anything about me, I grew up very religious, and anything about Satanism or some type of human sacrifice of people for the benefit of the spirits, I don't like it.

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Or you can go to magicspoon.com slash camp C-A-M-P for $5 off. Now let's get back to the show, you fatty. The case breaks when Mexican police investigating drug trafficking in the Matamoros area focus on a ranch called Santa Elena, which is now, as we know, linked to the Hernandez family's criminal activities.

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The reason they narrowed down on this specific ranch was because Elio Hernandez ran his pickup truck through a police drug checkpoint and then sped off, thinking that he had successfully lost the cops, but they actually tracked him from afar. So by April 9th, 1989, police raided the ranch and arrested several individuals, including cult members David Serena Valdez, Hernandez Garcia, and

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I don't like to get political or controversial on this show, but it makes me uncomfortable. And this is the story of Adolfo Constanzo. This is the narco-satanist of Matamoros in Mexico. So, our story begins in 1989 with the disappearance of a young American student named Mark Hilroy at age 21 when he was in spring break in Matamoros, Mexico.

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Sergio Martinez Salinas, and the ranch caretaker, Domingo Reyes Bustamante. During interrogation, Hernandez-Garcia confessed that the group led by Adolfo Constanzo had performed ritual human sacrifice at the ranch, including the murder of Mark Kilroy.

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These confessions prompted police to search the property where they discovered evidence of these ritual killings, the torture, the abuse, and ultimately uncovered all of the cult's gruesome activities. At the ranch, police questioned the caretaker, Domingo Reyes Bustamante, who described frequent comings and goings, but did not immediately recognize Mark Kilroy from a photo.

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Universe 25, one of the most disturbing, terrifying, and controversial experiments ever conducted, not on human beings, but on mice. What if you put a bunch of mice into an enclosure and give them all the food and water they want, but they're on top of each other in tiny little apartments, much like a city like New York, LA, or Chicago? What happens?

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Magnesium is amazing for helping me go to sleep. Look it up. There's studies everywhere. And this is great because it tastes amazing. It's not some pill. This is the L3 and eight. It's sublingual. It actually gets in your blood system faster and will make you sleep better, perform better the next day. And when you sleep better, your hormones reset better. You get stronger. You work out better.

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All that vitamin C. Same thing. You need that. It should be in your food, but it's not. And that's where symbiotica can be the cure. And then, of course, you got liquid colostrum. You probably had colostrum right when you were very first born. If you were breastfed, your mom made colostrum. It is nature's first superfood. It is super dense in nutrients. And right here it is in this package.

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Well, here's the clip, and just to give you guys context of what happened. Even if... A little bit more towards you, Mark. Yeah, that's fine. So that's basically what happened. In the middle of our recording, the slowest invasion of all time happened. Yeah, and I didn't like how you treated that guy. What do you mean? What did I do?

Camp Gagnon

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And this is the stuff that I take, which is why I'm so excited to tell you guys about it. So check it out and let's get back to the show. The population of Universe 25 starts to basically double every 55 days. Yeah, that's what was blowing my mind. It just starts to go. Bang, bang, bang. Mouse are having crazy. Kids are having sex with each other. Yes. Guys going down on guys.

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By day 315, the colonies had 620 mice. Remember, it went from four pairs to 600. Yeah, eight mice to 620 in 315 days.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. And what's interesting is that the capacity is 3,000. They're at 620, and they're already creating disproportionate clusters.

Camp Gagnon

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So around these communal, like, food areas and nesting apartments, they're all on top of each other, just, like, stressing each other out, creating these hot spots. And as they're doing this, the eating and grooming rituals that are the social rituals draw the mice into the shared spaces, and then the competition intensifies in those spots. And then that starts leading to aggression.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, I'm curious.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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motherfucker and he's like the little girl rat that everyone wants to plow the sexy girl rat with big boobs yes hold my little mouse pocket you know what I mean like that's what they're trying to figure out so this isn't a paradox right they have this abundant resource system but yet there is an amplifying social conflict yeah first signs of dysfunction in the utopia mm-hmm sound familiar sound familiar

Camp Gagnon

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Population peaks at 2,200. Crazy. At that point, the social hierarchies start to fracture under the density. Dominant males tasked with defending territory become hyper-aggressive, attacking rivals indiscriminately and even resorting to cannibalism. Subordinate males withdraw from social interaction. And the lowest ranking omega males, which is still so funny.

Camp Gagnon

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For real. The omega cuck mice are retreating to isolated areas, living in fear. Yeah. And just completely pulling themselves out. Did any of them become polyamorous? I mean, I'm assuming they all are. That's a good point.

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Yeah, no.

Camp Gagnon

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That's what I'm assuming happens.

Camp Gagnon

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So, the females are also stressed because they have to defend their nests and their young from the aggressive males, and now that leads to maternal neglect.

Camp Gagnon

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Some of the compartments, for the record, 90% mortality of the infants. Jesus. Of the young little pups, 90%. And the surviving ones lacked socialization and perpetuated the maladaptive behaviors across generations. Yeah. That's an important detail we'll get to. So by day 600, we're now about two years into this thing.

Camp Gagnon

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Anyway. So this is a stagnation phase. Day 600, we're in stagnation phase. Yeah. Reproduction has basically stopped. Slows dramatically. Birth rates dropped to a third of their peak as females ceased mating and abandoned their young. That makes sense. Aggression amongst the males escalate. What is the birth rate right now in New York City?

Camp Gagnon

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It must be 0.5.

Camp Gagnon

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Anyway, so I have no idea what the birth rate in New York City is, but I can tell you anecdotally... It ain't much. In my apartment, it's huge. It's just only in my little where I live. Why? Because there's one baby born recently. Yeah. So we're going up. Yeah, well... The data within my one unit...

Camp Gagnon

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No, it's anecdotally, there's no kids. There's no kids. And I don't know, I actually joined- People in Manhattan? I joined a group of fathers.

Camp Gagnon

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That like, dudes that hang out with their kids. And they're all 40.

Camp Gagnon

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They're all looking at me like, are you like a babysitter? Yeah, who are you?

Camp Gagnon

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I tell them, they're like, I'm 28. You're in your 20s? Yeah. They truly are like, why? Is everything okay? When did your father have you? My father?

Camp Gagnon

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Oh, yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, it's a lot.

Camp Gagnon

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Which, for the record, in the rest of the country, I think that's normal. That is normal. Like, I don't think anyone bats an eye. That's true, that's true. Like, that's very much a coastal city thing. A coastal city, for sure. So, what happens is that as the aggression amongst these males escalate, the women increasingly withdraw from communal activities.

Camp Gagnon

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Because the dudes are just fighting and they're like... Guys, stop. Yeah, they're scaring the hoes. Yeah, they scare the hoes by biting each other's necks. Literally, the hoes are getting extremely scared. And the behavior spreads contagiously, destabilizing the entire population. So as there's a skirmish amongst male mice over here, the other ones start to fight also.

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That's not true.

Camp Gagnon

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It's just because that's in the air. You go, I guess we've got to fight right now. It's like a bar fight.

Camp Gagnon

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Apparently, have you ever heard this, that after UFC fights, fights in bars go up a ton? And a lot of bars won't play UFC fights. For that reason? Because it's just not worth the fight ends.

Camp Gagnon

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Kristoff is doing a bit. We're not on PBS, you old f***. For anyone that doesn't know, this is my friend Christoph. We started comedy in Orlando together, and he's on the road with me right now. We're doing shows at Healing in Atlanta. It was a great time. It's been great. And you're going to be on the road with me for a couple more shows.

Camp Gagnon

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break out here just organically so we can't fucking yeah we can't do this yeah exactly we can't just play ultra violence on the television but you see some guys fighting like dude you gotta strike first yeah you know what I mean ask questions later ow so that takes us to the beautiful ones

Camp Gagnon

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I highly doubt it. But it's an interesting thing in this entire experiment. What the fuck? The beautiful ones were the mice that withdrew entirely from the social interactions, both male and female. Yeah. They showed obsessive grooming behavior. Yeah. So they just groomed themselves. They couldn't help it.

Camp Gagnon

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Yes. They avoid mating. They show no interest in territorial disputes. Like a weird anxiety disorder thing. But no interest in territorial disputes is interesting also. Yeah. Because they're just like, I'm above this. I'm just detached. It doesn't matter. Who cares? Who cares what happens?

Camp Gagnon

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There is no gain. What is there gain? There's no gain.

Camp Gagnon

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Not only is the violence meaningless, our existence is meaningless. So what is the point of doing anything?

Camp Gagnon

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Have you seen sex rates amongst Gen Z are down? Yeah, it's lower. Alcohol is down. Nicotine, cigarette use is down. Yeah, everything's down. Which seems good. Of course, excessive alcohol use is not good. But it seems indicative. Promiscuity or whatever, if it's at a super high, is bad. but it seems like it's indicative of greater isolationist social behavior.

Camp Gagnon

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Unfortunately, one researcher discovered that there's societal collapse. Men become aggressive and start to fight each other. Women start to attack their own young, neglect their children, and the birth rate declines. And many researchers over the decades have mapped this to human behavior. Is this where American society is going? Are we entering into an eventual collapse?

Camp Gagnon

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Huberman talks about this all the time. Fast acting dopamine. Right. Like short term dopamine is generally not good for you. That's generally not good for you, but I also think like... As I drink caffeine.

Camp Gagnon

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So, come on out to a show. But, let's get into Universe 25. Let's do it. We got into it a little bit yesterday. Yeah, we did. Still start from the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. But now you know a little bit. But now I know a little bit. Universe 25, maybe one of the most disturbing... And by disturbing, I mean just kind of like morbidly strange experiments.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, there's just no point.

Camp Gagnon

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You're talking about the utopia, right? Yeah, well, no, in general, too. No, no, no, no. Our life is awesome. Our society is built super, super sick.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, but you won't need money. Exactly. Because you won't own anything. You're going to like it. You're going to like it. Yeah. Right? Right. Let's go, dude. So these beautiful ones are physically pristine. They look beautiful. But their detachment symbolizes the societal collapse, right? They're just completely checked out, apathetic to everything.

Camp Gagnon

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What's interesting is even when the beautiful ones after the experiment ends are relocated to new environments, they remained asocial. Right. And failed to reproduce.

Camp Gagnon

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And they demonstrated the psychological damage of their upbringing within this environment. Yeah, dude.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, I mean, like, looks maxing type vibes?

Camp Gagnon

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And they kind of have a social thing with their friends. They do. They have, like, a very active Discord, you know? Yes. Yeah, it's interesting that even after they get taken out of the environment that they're still... They're still like that. Like that? Yeah. And then on top of that, when they have kids... Those kids are like that. They see it. They pass it on. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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Like, according to the research, the mice born in later phases inherited the maladaptive behavior such as aggression and withdrawal. Even if they're raised in less crowded conditions later in life.

Camp Gagnon

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So, by 1973... Yeah. Five years later... Universe 25's population had collapsed entirely. Whoa. The last conception occurred on day 920, and the colony dwindled to extinction despite abundant resources. Extinction? Yeah. They all literally just died. Wow.

Camp Gagnon

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Calhoun concluded that the overpopulation alone, even without resource scarcity, destabilized a society, led to a behavioral sink and irreversible dysfunction. And the grim outcome underscored the importance of addressing social and psychological needs alongside material abundance in designing sustainable communities. Wow. Crazy. Yeah, that's nuts.

Camp Gagnon

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So the parts that kind of stick out is like the voluntary clustering, the mice congregate around communal food hoppers and nesting areas, ignoring the underutilized compartments. Yeah. There's basically just cities, right? Like we're human beings on this giant earth.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. They're resource centers. Right. Which makes sense. Obviously you want to be around the resources, but now you don't need that. You could live away from resource center and still have all the stuff you need. Definitely. Assuming that everything stays stable. Yeah. Which, in the utopia, there were stable environments, but in our world, there's not necessarily.

Camp Gagnon

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You know, war could break out, and if you're living in a, you know, resource desert, then... Yeah, you're probably fucked up. You might die.

Camp Gagnon

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Exactly. He notes that the areas, the hotspots of social interactions become the competition zones, and that leads to random violence. And the other thing that's interesting, the vertical stairwells that connect to the compartments forced mice to have frequent unavoidable interactions, while the centralized food and water stations created choke points for conflict.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. You know, critics argue that the setup of the experiment is unlike that. You can't map it to the human experience because in this utopia, quote unquote. Yeah. People are required to bump into each other. Like, there's choke points and, like, forced contact. There's, of course, forced contact in cities. In cities, sure.

Camp Gagnon

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But critics argue that the artificial setup overstates the inevitability of collapse because in a natural environment, animals disperse to avoid tension. Yeah. And that the closed system traps them together in a feedback loop of aggression and withdrawal.

Camp Gagnon

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So in an actual utopia for mice, they would disperse. Of course. They would avoid conflict. They'd get away from each other.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. Other critics like this guy, Jonathan Friedman, argued that human societies with their complex cultural norms and institutions might mitigate density-related stress more effectively than mice. For sure. That makes sense, right?

Camp Gagnon

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Other people note that the elimination of all challenges, predators, disease, resource scarcity, creates an unnatural scenario where boredom and social monotony likely compound the dysfunction. Yeah. But I think that's... That's still cities. That's cities because... That's still just humanity. Yeah. Boredom and social monotony is... Sounds like the human experience. Yeah. Right now. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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And it is compounding dysfunction.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. And I think it does add to social dysfunction. For sure. Doing a 9-to-5 where you do the same shit every single day, like a dead-end job that's meaningless.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because I got to tell you about a dirty little secret, okay? The insurance industry doesn't want you to know this. Well, basically what the insurance companies do is that they profit by holding onto your money as long as possible.

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You pay them every month, and then eventually when an accident happens, they try to deny or delay your claim so that they can keep their profits going. I mean, it goes even worse when in court, the insurance companies want jurors to think that the at-fault driver you know, a mom that rear-ends someone, you know, she's a single mom, and they think that she is going to be paying the verdict amount.

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Meanwhile, it's really the insurance companies who are going to be covering the costs. And that's what I want to tell you about the good folks over at Morgan & Morgan, because they will take on the case, and they are almost always going after the big insurance companies and not the individuals at fault.

Camp Gagnon

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Humans are the same way. Yeah, exactly. Isn't that strange? That's why you see people at casinos just like,

Camp Gagnon

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Morgan & Morgan fights hard for their clients, and these corporations know that, and it pisses them off. A recent client in Pennsylvania just received $29 million. The insurer's best offer? $500,000. Yeah. There's another client in Florida that received $20 million, and the last offer from the insurance company was $0. There's a reason why Morgan & Morgan is America's largest injury law firm.

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Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's get back to the show. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because I'm sitting here in my beautiful tent, as you can see, every week, day in, day out. And people always ask, they say, Mark, how do I have a tent like that? I want to sit in a beautiful tent and invite a lover, a friend, someone that I appreciate and adore.

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Why not just try it? Visit bluechew.com for more details and important safety information. And we thank Blue Chew for sponsoring this podcast. All right, now let's get after it and let's get back to the show. I don't know. It makes me think about, I think struggle is like fundamental. I think human beings need it. That's why you make struggles that aren't there.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, which, I mean, like, do you have an example? Like, just being like, oh.

Camp Gagnon

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So this was an experiment for anyone that doesn't know. Created by this guy, John B. Calhoun.

Camp Gagnon

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Have you ever heard of this dude, Christopher Ryan? No. He wrote a book called Sex at Dawn. No. It was a very popular, like, anthropological, like, evolution book about, like, human relationships. But he wrote another one called Civilized to Death. I've heard of Civilized to Death. Which I loved. Yeah. Like, of course, like, there's a, you know, potential blind spots in some of his research.

Camp Gagnon

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He's not really necessarily a scientist. He's more like a researcher. Yeah, of course. But I found the book to be, like, very apt. Yeah, it's sort of like pop anthropology. Exactly. I thought it was great. But basically it explores that idea like, hey, we are civilizing ourselves to be miserable. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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Like even there's a little thing like sleeping on the ground versus sleeping in a bed can take days, years off your life. Yeah, for sure. But like one of the indicators of health is being able to get up off the ground. And so like you see these old women that live, you know, in small communities, not in the West where they sleep on the ground.

Camp Gagnon

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Who we learned is not John C. Calhoun. Calhoun, the vice president under Thomas, no, Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson.

Camp Gagnon

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They're able to get up off the ground until the day they die. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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Your hits got to work. There's a feeling that it's like you see an old lady struggling up the stairs, and you're like, Oh, let's get you a thing. Let's get you a hover around.

Camp Gagnon

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Yes. And it's just because you want to help. Yeah, for sure. But the reality is that letting people suffer is actually the best thing for them because human beings are anti-fragile is what they call it. Right. It's exercise.

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It's great.

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John C. Calhoun, he was a behavioral researcher who worked at the National Institute of Mental Health during a time when there was a lot of concerns about population growth and urbanization. Yeah. Basically, you had these cities that were exploding after World War II, and people were just flocking to these urban centers, living in these super densely populated metropolises.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, of course. I mean, discounting the obvious injuries. Right, except for the fucking knife that falls from the sky.

Camp Gagnon

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Other than that. But generally speaking, having just a labor job or exercising is so good for you.

Camp Gagnon

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Like for his age, he's like unbelievably fit. That's the thing that I feel like so much of the bro productivity culture misses is like, hey, work out so you can be like a god. So you can be sexy. And so you can be sexy and chicks will like you.

Camp Gagnon

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Do you ever intentionally make things less convenient?

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, that's good.

Camp Gagnon

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Because again, I think that's another one of those things where it's just like constant input, constant consumption. Yeah. Every single day, every moment of the day, I'm constantly consuming something. Right. Where it's like, well, just spend time with yourself. Think about what your own thoughts are for a minute.

Camp Gagnon

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I think that's true. I don't know. I try to actively...

Camp Gagnon

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do things that are less convenient like especially in new york it's like okay this is going to be like a three minute uber but if i have time like i'll just walk right yeah it'll be a 30 minute walk or a three minute uber i'll take the 30 minute walk or whatever the thing is like i'll just be like okay or like oh i feel kind of bad right now or like i feel anxious or i feel low yeah and i really want like sugar yeah that'll make me feel good and i'll intentionally try to be like just deal with the bad feeling yeah for sure and remove the convenience yeah when i

Camp Gagnon

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And in the mid-20th century, with all this urban expansion, global populations rising, people were like, how many people are allowed to exist? Yeah. At what point is it too much?

Camp Gagnon

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That's sick.

Camp Gagnon

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What the fuck is Edge AI? This is a digital service that basically it can tell right when you're about to bust. It cannot tell when you're going to bust.

Camp Gagnon

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It's hooked up to a... A cock ring? Yeah, a monitor. It's hooked up to a monitor on your cock. And so basically it'll feel when you're about to bust and then it'll stop. And it goes do-do-do-do-do. And then it takes away the visual stimulus and starts playing like Cocomelon or something. And then you bust a Cocomelon? No, no, no. And then you can't bust. And so then you stop.

Camp Gagnon

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They also have a physical attachment that basically just, like, strokes you, and then the second thing you're about to post, it stops.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, no, I think AI is one of those things that I think people are going to have to intentionally, like, take a reprieve from in order to create, you know, sort of artificial struggle, meaningful struggle.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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I completely agree. Okay. But on an individual basis, if you're tending to your own garden... You can choose to kind of opt out.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. But people are like, at what point does it all just fall apart? Yeah. So this guy started doing some experiments in the 40s and 50s, okay, with this breed of rat called the Norway rat. The whitest of rats. Norway rat.

Camp Gagnon

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These are Japanese social recluses. Hikikomori. These are the Japanese beautiful ones. Oh. So in Japan, they face, these are people that basically have like a burnout-induced withdrawal from high-pressure workplaces. And they kind of just like check out. Like, hey, we're not a part of society anymore. Yes, I've heard of these people. And they just kind of leave.

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And it's sort of a human manifestation of the beautiful ones. Yeah. Kind of wild. Like, it exists already in our society, and there's, like, a name for it within Japan.

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Yeah.

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Send her a TikTok and be like, we both do pictures all day and then we get together at dinner and we talk about it. Oh my God.

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DP. Yeah, dude.

Camp Gagnon

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There's no way cows are like indigenous to Japan.

Camp Gagnon

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Right.

Camp Gagnon

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I mean, good. Everything they take that's ours, they make it so sick. Dude, they make it crazy. A5 Wagyu? Wild.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. I mean, we could never do what they do.

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And what's interesting is that from these experiments, people like literal urban planners have actually taken this concept in mind when designing, you know, cities. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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No, of course. It's not necessarily urban sprawl. It's just how spaces are organized. And then they apply this to prisons and offices and neighborhoods. Like, okay, how do we reduce, like, contact? Is it possible to create more disparate resource centers so that people have less frequent contact?

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That's exactly it.

Camp Gagnon

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The question is not like, oh, they have enough food, they're fine. It's like...

Camp Gagnon

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I wonder if this is something that's known within the urban planning world.

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So even if you can get your food as quickly and it's the same food at the same rate, having them in smaller, more stochastic sort of layouts.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, I mean, Dunbar's numbers were, what, like, 160? Is that, like, the limit on, like, nomadic groups? Yeah, basically, like, once you get past 160, like, you're going to start having fracture. Yeah. And so, like, amongst, like, bands of hunter-gatherers, there'll be, like, another, you know, like, alpha dude that'll be like, yo, fuck you and the clique you claim. Competition, yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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And we're going to bounce.

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These experiments basically were to illustrate social dysfunction when populations became too dense. And it's not scarcity. You know what I mean? Because obviously if there's scarcity, if you don't have food and water, people are going to start freaking out.

Camp Gagnon

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I think it's 160.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, I think... The hollers divided them. This is the assumption that they're not like, you know... Intermingle with any other groups. Swap a little and do a little like, yo, our tribes are cool and we're sister tribes.

Camp Gagnon

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Another element from this that people kind of parsed out is that the later-born mice never experienced a functional society and never really integrated back in. This is kind of Gen Z world, dude. Yeah, this guy Robert Putnam has this concept called social capital decay. And this is basically communities that lose shared norms over generations.

Camp Gagnon

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So Universe 25, each cohort inherited a degraded culture. Yeah. And so their input was already degraded. So then their output was even further degraded. And the human parallels include communities trapped in like cycles of violence and poverty where dysfunction becomes intergenerational and that you never know what functional society is. Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's functional in like a objective sense.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, and then there's never an experience of what a functioning society is or perhaps a more equitable society.

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you know seen as you know the un the immoral thing to do that's why i always say like people just do the hustles they know like i forget what it was this might be even apocryphal but like it was one woman that came from vietnam to the united states in like the 30s yeah that opened up like a nail salon right where she was doing now exactly and now the stereotypically right i mean nails are overrepresented there's weird ones there are chinese donut shops

Camp Gagnon

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Something like 70% of hotels in the United States are owned by someone with the last name Patel. Right. So people just do the hustles they know. Right. It's the 7-Eleven stereotype. It's whatever. Like Somali dudes selling bags on Canal Street. Yeah. You know what I mean? So unless you ever learn a different hustle,

Camp Gagnon

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I think it's like how isolated your community is. It's like Greek diners or whatever, you know. Like my community growing up was not isolated at all. Right. Like I grew up and I saw people that were lawyers. I saw people that worked at, you know, a trucking company. Various jobs. And there was an entire, you know, spectrum of career options. Right. So I was like, oh, I could do anything.

Camp Gagnon

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And it never occurred to me that I could be a drug dealer. No. Because I never knew a drug dealer. Like it was never even on the table. You never knew a drug dealer? Not until I was like 19. Really?

Camp Gagnon

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I never knew I mean I was aware of like the kids but no one at my school sold pot I mean maybe like on the low but like they weren't oh really they weren't like I went to a private school that's interesting well I thought the private schools would be more like you know I knew a couple kids but all the kids that went to my school that were like drugs yeah they were expelled from a different school interesting and they were there to clean up oh interesting no I knew so many kids who sold drugs yeah but they sold pot you know yeah nothing crazy

Camp Gagnon

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But, like, I don't know. I never knew that hustle, so it was never really going to be, like, a thing. Yeah. I could never sell pot, though.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah. So what's interesting about Universe 25, like we said before, not his first universes. Yeah. Is it the 25th? It's the 25th. So literally there's Universe 3 where he finds out about like the social collapse kind of thing. In Universe 3, infant mortality reached 96%. What do you do in Universe 3? It's basically the same thing. Same experiment. Same experiment, just like smaller.

Camp Gagnon

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He's repeated it many times. And it was just like smaller and for shorter durations. Universe 13 is where he found out about like the Omega males. And he just kind of like kept on recreating these experiments.

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I've heard of those.

Camp Gagnon

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Universes. I don't know if he did another one after, after 25, but that was like the, uh, it seemed like his, his, his opus.

Camp Gagnon

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I don't know. I don't know what to make of it. It's very disturbing. Yeah. I do think it's important for people to jump into their immediate communities. Absolutely. Dude, this is something that Sebastian Junger, the guy that made Restrepo. You ever seen that documentary? Yeah. He has... I talk about this all the time, but I think it's so true.

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He's like, dudes get PTSD when they leave the military, not only from the things that they see, but once they return to regular society because they lose community. Yeah. They lose a mission, like a purpose. Oh, God. And then they lose competency. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. It's horrible.

Camp Gagnon

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When you're in the military, you have like your boys that are always with you, people checking in on you, seeing if you're okay. Yeah. You have like a real goal, whether it's like, I'm going to make money for my family. I'm going to serve my country. I'm going to stop, you know. Right. Or even it's just the immediate goal of going, we're going to this war zone and we have to do this thing.

Camp Gagnon

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Someone tells me what to do and I know what to do. Yeah. And then I'm the most competent person within my platoon to do this specific task. Do this thing. Like I'm the sniper guy. I'm the fucking machine gun guy. And everyone else is like, yo, Kristoff is the guy that does this. Right.

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And then you come back to America where you have no real community. No, what are you going to do, sell insurance too? Yeah, you have a job you don't give a shit about. You're not even that good at it.

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Well, all that and more will be explored today on this episode of Camp. We will go through how the experiment was decided, how it was set up, what were the factors that went into it, what do the critics say, why is this not like American or human society, and what can we learn and how can we change our lives in order to create a more just and peaceful place for ourselves to live.

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Windows, masonry. The outcome.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, the problem is like... They sound like that. Yeah, I guess it depends who's guinea pig, right?

Camp Gagnon

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Damn, dude.

Camp Gagnon

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And if I die, they'll get another button.

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So you're kind of like a Marxist podcaster, you'd say. I'm not far off. I'm not far off. You read a little Das Kapital and you're like, dude, maybe I'm a fucking comedy dude. Yeah, maybe this guy's going. But no, I think a media community, find people you actually like and pour into them, whether it's family or friends or whatever. Yeah. And then...

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Find a thing you're competent at that you really love. Mm-hmm. And then have, like, a greater mission in life, whether it's, like, being a great dad, being a good friend. Yeah, whatever it is. Serving God. Amen. And then work out for health and not for impressing, you know, the house. And then, I don't know, try to eat good food and shit. Yep. Get some sunlight. Eat a banana. Yeah.

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Put it up your butt. That's all you need. Make you come hard. Yeah. I mean, are you going to apply these things to your life?

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Yeah.

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Traitor.

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Respect. Well. Let's wrap things up, huh? Ladies and gentlemen, that's been another episode of Camp. Universe 25 is shaking me to my core, and I think I'm fundamentally a different human being today than I was yesterday. But thank you guys so much for watching. Appreciate it. Christoph. Thanks a million.

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Yeah. Got eaten by a bear. No way. Where'd it go? What kind of bear? Black bear. Florida black bear. Hmm. We're going to start a GoFundMe for Cloudy if you guys want to join in. Florida black bear?

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Yeah, dude. Guys like you just do it for the love of the game. So this guy, John C. Riley. Yes. No, John Calhoun. B. Calhoun. Starts doing these experiments, giving all these mice all the food and water they need. They have nesting materials. They have a perfect environment. But they just start getting more and more dense. Basically lets them just breed as much as they want.

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And they end up getting so dense that the experiments have to be called off because the environments that they were in weren't able to accommodate. Yeah, they outgrew the labs. Yeah, basically. And these are the early experiments. And he discovered this thing called behavioral sync. And this is a phenomenon where overcrowding leads to a breakdown in the normal social behaviors of these mice.

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Yeah. So the mice are normally just doing mice shit, but the second it gets overcrowded, things get off the rails. Yeah. So in the early studies, the rats exhibited extreme aggression, neglected their offspring, withdrew from social interactions, and they intrigued this guy, right? The scientist. He's over here being like, okay.

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Could these patterns offer an insight to how humans would behave in a city environment as well? And so when he starts doing these early experiments, not only is the scientific community interested, all of a sudden policymakers and the U.S. government as well as global governments also start getting interested. They're like, dude, is this important? Should we take this into account? Yeah.

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Like if New York gets to 10 million people, will everything just fall apart? Right. So this is where Universe 25 comes in. This is an experiment born out of the desire to basically take the behavioral collapse hypothesis to the logical end.

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And he basically creates a utopia, an environment where there's unlimited food, water, nesting materials, and tries to isolate the effects of overcrowding itself. And it's about obviously studying mice, but also trying to broach the philosophical practice of how societies grow and how they function. Yeah. So he creates this environment. It's like an enclosure. It's worth getting a picture.

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We can throw one up on screen. It's massive. Yeah. It's nine feet. Nine square feet. Yeah. And it's divided into four interconnected pins or pens with 16 vertical mesh stairwells leading up to 256 nesting compartments. It can hold thousands of mice. Yeah.

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3,000, yeah.

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So, sit back, relax, and welcome to Camp. What's up, people, and welcome back to camp. We are not in our beautiful, wonderful tent. Instead, we are here outside of a hotel in Atlanta, Georgia. This is take two of this amazing episode we're about to record on Universe 25. Our first take was interrupted.

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So each compartment can hold up to 15 mice, and the population never even reached the theoretical maximum. These are like your apartments in Williamsburg. Exactly. Unlimited food.

Camp Gagnon

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Yes. And there's landlords that come in. There's some scrutineer mice. Yeah, we'll get to the scrutineers. Don't worry. There's unlimited food and water. All the nesting materials they want. Temperature is maintained at like 68 degrees Fahrenheit.

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It's beautiful. It's gorgeous. They got tanning beds. They got a gym. Yeah. Everything you need.

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So it begins in 1968. This is when America's gripped by, you know, Vietnam, drugs are going crazy.

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So, 1968, he takes four pairs of healthy, genetically robust mice. These are just some of the frumpiest, most robust mice. They're robust. These are extremely robust mice. Thick mice. And he takes them from the Institute of Health, and they're introduced to the enclosure during the strive period.

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This is a 104-day phase where they adapt to their surroundings, establish territories, and begin fucking. Yeah. So that's what they do.

Camp Gagnon

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Whoa.

Camp Gagnon

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That's hot as hell, dude.

Camp Gagnon

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So they don't have any... So mice porn is... Mice porn, they... There's no stepbrother.

Camp Gagnon

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Yeah, not at all. It wouldn't even be a big deal at all. Like, there's no, like, what are you doing, stepbrother? It's like, obviously, you're dogging me on this dryer. Yeah, the concept of stepbrother is probably foreign. Yeah. Probably. Also, for the record, this is the case with humans also. What? It's not as close as you think. What? So, like, brother, sister, you can't do that. No. Cousin?

Camp Gagnon

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Cousin is, like, 2% chance of something.

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Second cousin is, like, .001.

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So he creates a utopia. This is his dream. And the only limiting factor is physical space. So what happens? Great question.

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Alrighty. Don't skip forward, guys, because I am on the road. World's fastest ad read coming at you. I'm going to be in Indianapolis, Buffalo, Raleigh, Poughkeepsie, Portland, Oregon, Fort Worth, Texas, Austin, Texas, Stanford, Philly, Levittown, Chandler, Arizona, San Diego. I'm also going to be adding Toronto, Montreal, as well as Washington, D.C., and I'm Bunch of other dates.

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Dates are in the description, also in probably the comments of this episode. Go see me on the road. Come hang out. I'll be hanging out with everyone after the show. Come shake my hand. Call me an idiot. Whatever you want to do, I will be there. Additionally, I will be doing my one hour of stand-up comedy. I'm very proud of this hour.

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I'm really excited to share it with you guys, and it would mean the world if everyone could come on out. And what do you wear to a show on the road? That's a great question. You can go to campgoods.co. That's right. We got merch. We got camp merch. We got hats, hoodies, t-shirts. A lot of stuff is out of stock.

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And I'm sure the people at home are like, what do you mean? How does a podcast get invaded by a menagerie of Tanzanians?

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Things have been selling like hotcakes, but we're going to be restocking everything in all the sizes. So you can go there right now, get all the merch, get all the coolest clothing in the podcast game. We're going to be updating that site regularly. And if you come out to a show, I'd love to see you sporting some of the threads that we got up online. I'll see you guys there.

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Let's get back to the show. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because we have a new sponsor of the show that I'm so excited about that I need to tell you. So listen up. Our food is important. What you eat is who you are. It's how you think, how you feel, how you work out. It basically encompasses everything.

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We're jumping in, the Father Almighty. Jesus Christ. He among you who is without sin, let him cast the first stone. Theodosius, who specifically mentions a church marking the spot where Jesus was believed to have been baptized. The Gospel of Matthew. And this provides our only historical account of one of the most mysterious journeys in religious history ever.

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This is just a modest dwelling. with a small room, a little courtyard, cut into the limestone bedrock. While we can't definitively say Jesus visited this specific house, it gives us a glimpse into the kind of home that he likely would have known with his mother and father. So as Alexandra herself noted, this may well have been a place that Jesus and his contemporaries were familiar with.

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Again, these are pretty small towns. So forget everything that you've seen in religious art. First century Nazareth wasn't the bustling town of all these traditional depictions. Archaeological evidence suggests a population of just 200 to maybe even 400 people at the top end. I mean, when Nathaniel asks in John chapter one, can anything good come from Nazareth?

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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He's not just being, you know, snarky. The archaeological record supports this. I mean, it's like a nothing town. It's truly, I mean, 400 people. It's like so small. So Nazareth was tiny, even by ancient standards. And the entire settlement was smaller than, you know, like a many, like a high school graduating class. I mean, how many people graduate in your high school, Christos?

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I always mess up how to pronounce it. I'm going to say it how I think it should be said. Gurdwara in in Manchester, and they gave him food for free for a couple days without charging him any money. So it just goes to show that these good folks are out there. And then the Ark of the Covenant episode, just all sorts of people giving great feedback. Again, why do I do this show?

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4,000 had a big wound. That was your graduating class?

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That's what I'm saying. So the people that graduated with you, think about that. It was half that. Less than half. I mean, that's crazy. So sometimes you see these pictures of Jesus and Nazareth and there's like, you know, donkeys and all this stuff. I mean, there's probably a donkey. And that was Fat Susie from off the block. It wasn't even a real donkey. It was just a girl. It's crazy.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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So you can think about, you know, putting in that perspective. So a lot of the recent excavations revealed kind of a network of these like small dwellings, these kind of like agricultural terraces, kind of some storage caves, painting a picture of this sort of modest agricultural community, you could say.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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And the archaeological evidence tells us a really interesting story about daily life for just a average Nazarethian citizen. So they were primarily farmers and craftsmen. Excavations have uncovered some wine presses, olive presses, and some storage silos carved into the limestone.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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And these findings align perfectly with the gospel accounts that describe Joseph as a carpenter, known in the traditional Greek as a tekton, but more accurately meaning like a craftsman or a builder. But it's commonly accepted that he was a carpenter. So the limestone quarries and caves around Nazareth would have provided ample materials to do this type of building work.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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One of the most significant discoveries from the first century is these – they're known as mikveh in the Hebrew. And this is a ritual bath carved into the bedrock. And these are actually still used in a lot of – Jewish communities to this day. And this finding is crucial because, again, it provides this physical evidence of Jewish religious observance in Nazareth at this time.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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So according to Jewish law, the mikvot, which is the plural of the mikvah, were essential for maintaining this type of ritual purity. The presence of these constructed baths with the steps and the water collection system shows that despite the small size of Nazareth, This was a community deeply committed to this Jewish religious practice.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

1207.737

And perhaps the most revealing or telling element is what the archaeologists haven't found. No public buildings, no paved streets, no signs of Hellenistic or Roman architecture, any of that stuff. As the archaeologist Ken Dark notes in his research, Nazareth appears to have been

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an intentionally conservative Jewish settlement that maintained its cultural isolation despite being just a few miles from this kind of bustling Greco-Roman city of Sepphoris. And the archaeological evidence challenges our assumptions about Jesus' early environment, right? Rather than growing up in this kind of cosmopolitan setting,

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He spent his formative years in a traditional Jewish village that seemed to like almost resist the surrounding Hellenistic culture. And this context, I think, adds some layers and kind of fleshes out our understanding of who Jesus was.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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Why am I so interested in religion? I, one, was raised very religious in the Catholic faith, one true holy Catholic and apostolic church. Sorry, everybody. But also, I think it is the greatest way, in my opinion, to connect with people and culture. I'm fascinated by people. I'm to truly understand a people, an ethnic group, or even a nation without understanding the God that they worship. Right?

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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And I think actually kind of contextualizes his later ministry when he would repeatedly cross these cultural and religious boundaries in ways that shocked a lot of his contemporaries. But who knows? Maybe this is completely overthinking it, right?

Camp Gagnon

EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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You have this, you know, skilled craftsman who simply walked a few miles from this bustling Greco city of Sephoris, carved his own little quiet space in a limestone, added a little bath, called it home, right? It's possible. Sometimes the simplest explanation for a small town's beginning is just, you know, a young man needing his own space.

Camp Gagnon

EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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Though in this case, that desire for independence may have, you know, changed the course of history forever. So let's move on, shall we? Baptism in the Wilderness, a.k.a. John the Baptist. The Gospel accounts place Jesus' baptism at a very specific location in the Jordan River. Yet today, two sites kind of compete for recognition of this pivotal moment.

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EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

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You have the Al-Makdas in Jordan and then the Qasr al-Yahud in the West Bank. The existence of these competing sites offers us kind of an interesting window into the Sort of how history and archaeology and the evidence of these notable moments kind of intersect in kind of the historical documents and the traditions and help us inform the way that we actually revere these types of locations. Yeah.

Camp Gagnon

EVERY Place Jesus Traveled

1355.009

The Al-Maktas, meaning the place of immersion in Arabic, has yielded significant archaeological evidence. Excavations revealed a Byzantine church dating to the 5th or 6th century AD, complete with marble columns, mosaic floors, water system connecting to the river. As a matter of fact, UNESCO...

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which is kind of like this governing body for declaring these famous sites in the world, these historical sites, declared it a world heritage site, noting the presence of these baptismal pools and caves and these water collection systems that align with a lot of the early Christian pilgrim accounts. And the earliest written description comes from Theodosius around 530 A.D.,

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who specifically mentions a church marking the spot where Jesus was believed to have been baptized. But across the river, you have Qazir el-Yachud, which also presents some compelling evidence. Archaeological excavations uncover multiple layers of religious structures, including the remains of a Byzantine-era monastery.

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And the site, you know, and the location of the site aligns with a lot of the biblical descriptions of being near Bethany, beyond the Jordan. This is from the Book of John. Although it's important to note that the exact location of this ancient Bethany, again, is debated among scholars, as you can imagine.

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The Israel Antiquities Authority has documented continuous pilgrim activity at this site from at least the 4th century AD. So following the baptism, the gospel records show Jesus' retreat into the wilderness for 40 days. And archaeological surveys of the Judean desert have identified numerous sites that were inhabited during the first century CE or AD.

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These include caves, settlements used by different religious groups specifically, and including the Essene Jews. These are the folks that preserved the Dead Sea Scrolls. So the discovery of these Dead Sea Scrolls and the excavations of Qumran provided this really important context about the religious practices and the settlements of the region during Jesus' time.

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But it's important to note, we can't definitively identify specific locations from this period in history. But the archaeological evidence from both the baptismal sites and the surrounding wilderness helps us understand kind of historical environment of these events. So the Jordan River, for example, has shifted and the course of the river itself has actually changed over the centuries.

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And its water level has significantly decreased, but these geological studies help us reconstruct the first century path. Both competing baptismal sites have produced pottery, coins from the Roman period. Again, all sorts of different artifacts that kind of confirm that there was human activity in the area during the time of Christ.

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I mean, most of my Muslim friends, like the ones that practice diligently Islam, is the most important thing in their life. So without knowing anything about Allah or the Prophet, how can you be like, oh yeah, I know. I know what my Muslim friends are about.

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The wilderness area preserves numerous Roman-era paths and small settlements showing how even these desolate areas supported these religious communities and even just regular civilian life. So, I don't know. I'd love to see a map here. So even just looking at the map here, I mean, they're so close. They're basically in the same exact spot. Right? Like, they're on opposite sides of the river.

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Come on, dude. You gotta just be like, yeah, that's... All right. It's the same, right?

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I mean, like if I got hit by a car on the street and you'd be like, oh, where did you get hit by a car? I'd be like, oh, in the middle of the street. And they'd be like, oh, well, was it on this side of the street or that side of the street? I'd be like, dude, I'm telling you, it's in the street. I mean, that's crazy. So I think they're both right. I'm going to give it to both of them.

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You guys get to split it. If someone takes the top part, I'm going to split it up King Solomon style. What's up, people? Quick announcement. If you are a fan of Camp Gagnon or Religion Camp, I have great news because we are dropping History Camp. That's right.

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This is the channel where we're going to be exploring the most interesting, fascinating, controversial topics from all time throughout all history. You probably know about Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Nikola Tesla, interesting figures from history, and you probably learned about them in school and they were pretty boring. but not here. No.

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As you know, I was raised by a conspiracy theorist, so I'm going to be diving deep into all of the interesting, strange, occult, and secretive societal relationships that all of these famous influential men from our shared past have. So if you're interested, please go ahead and subscribe to the YouTube channel. It will be pinned in the description as well as the comments.

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And if you're on Spotify, this doesn't really apply to you, but these episodes will be dropping as well. Just go ahead and give us a high rating because it really helps the show.

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And once you contextualize the culture and the people through, you know, the way they orient themselves through the religion and what they were told dogmatically or culturally growing up, then you can really get a sense for who they are. So today is going to be no different because we have a very fascinating topic. We are jumping in

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So, this now takes us to Galilee. And a lot of the archaeological evidence from Galilee provides really interesting insights into the landscape of where Jesus established his ministry. So, the remains of Capernaum, these might be the most impressive. It includes a first century synagogue basalt foundation stones beneath a later limestone structure.

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So according to the gospel accounts, this little town on a lake became Jesus's primary base of operations after leaving Nazareth. Archaeologists have uncovered this extensive village, including what many scholars later identify as Peter's house, a structure later converted into a church in the Byzantine era.

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So the question of this place known as Cana, this is the place where Christ performs his first miracle. And the actual location of that miracle is kind of this very strange, fascinating archaeological puzzle. So you have two primary candidates that emerge from excavation. You have Kerbet Kana and Kafir Kana.

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At Kirbet Kana, archaeologists have uncovered a first-century stone vessel and wine-producing facilities, while at Kfir Kana, which traditionally held the strongest claim, in the Gospel of John, chapter 2, verse 1, this places the wedding feast miracle here. And archaeological evidence confirms both sites were inhabited during Jesus' time. However, the exact location remains, you know, a debate.

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to the legend, the OG, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, Jesus Christ, the prophet in Islam, the savior in Christianity, and, you know, just a legend to everyone else, and where he went in his travels back in the day. You probably know, like, all right, Jesus, you know, born in Bethlehem, went to Nazareth, popped into, you know, going around different places in Judea, right?

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It would be sick if you get married there to this day. right? For anyone that's not familiar, there's obviously the miracle at the wedding of Cana where, you know, Christ turns water into wine. I mean, if that was a wedding venue today, that shit would go crazy. Kind of a good idea.

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That would be a miracle, but I believe in our Savior Jesus Christ. But even for him, you know, can God move a rock so big he can't move it or whatever? You might be a rock that he made that's too big. We'll have to see, but I'll be there. I'll be first in line.

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Anyway, the discovery of Bethsaida's remains, this was discovered at Et Tal near the Sea of Galilee on the northern shore, revealed a fishing village that transformed into this Hellenistic Roman town. And excavations have uncovered fishing implements and anchors and fish processing facilities, all this kind of stuff that confirms the gospel account's description of the character of this place.

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The site also has temples and residential quarters and a city gate system, suggesting that it was potentially even more developed than previously thought. And the distances between these locations offer, again, more perspective on the sort of landmass that Jesus' ministry actually covered. From Capernaum to Bethsaida is approximately like five, five and a half miles along the lakeshore.

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Archaeological surveys have identified Roman-era roads connecting these settlements, including portions of the Via Maris trade route that passed the region that we talked about earlier. The discovery of this road network shows how Jesus and his followers could have moved efficiently between these different populated little villages.

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The first century traveler typically covered like 20 to 25 kilometers per day on foot, meaning that most journeys between these Galilean towns could have been completed within a day. And the Sea of Galilee itself, around which a lot of these settlements and villages kind of clustered, plays a crucial role in connecting these communities.

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Archaeological remains of harbors, fishing boats, including the remarkably preserved first century jesus boat discovered in 1986 and also like these fish processing plants demonstrate kind of how important this lake was to the life of the region it kind of made everything survive and the compact nature of the region combined with

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you know, the road network and the maritime connections explains how Jesus' teaching could spread rapidly through this area known as Galilee. Perhaps the most fascinating element of the travels of Christ is his journey into the territories of Tyre, Sidon, and Caesarea Philippi. And this represents, you know, a really, really strange part of his ministry that I never really considered.

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So the Gospel of Mark, your boy, kind of records his travel to the region of Tyre and Sidon, which are these major Phoenician cities with this like pagan population. And again, when I say pagan, I just mean folks that believed in, you know, potentially a polytheism or many different gods.

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I think today pagan has kind of like almost like a satanic connotation, but these are typically just non-Jews of the region that kind of worshiped a litany of different gods, kind of a pantheon of worship. You could think of it as that way. And the archaeological excavations of this time reveal that there were these sophisticated urban centers during the first century.

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While Tyre's famous purple dye industry that the Phoenicians became extremely famous for and Sidon's extensive trade networks are well documented through not only accounts of historians and record keepers of the time but also material remains that we found today. But the ruins of Caesarii Philippi, known today as Banias, offer striking evidence of the region's religious landscape.

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So there are excavations that have been done recently that have uncovered the remains of a great temple. dedicated to Pan and the, you know, the imperial cult, sort of the Roman gods. And this was built by Herod Philip in the first century.

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That's probably what you heard in Sunday school. But the story goes much deeper, things that I didn't even realize. So we're going through everything, including even some modern cutting edge archaeology, ancient texts, and a healthy dose of conspiracy. So this episode's got everything. So let's jump in.

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And the site features numerous sort of, you know, little niches carved in the cliff face that once housed, you know, statues and even like a massive like temple platform that would have dominated like the landscape when Jesus actually went there. According to Matthew chapter 16, it was here in the shadow of this pagan temple

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religious center that Peter made his famous declaration about the identity of Christ. The archaeological records demonstrate, again, this massive trade network connecting all these regions from the first century, Roman era roads, and these different way stations that have been discovered indicating this regular travel and commerce between the Jewish and Gentile territories of the time.

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Excavations, again, show coins and pottery and all sorts of different artifacts that, you know, are consistent with this type of cultural exchange. And despite these different boundaries, it seems like there was a friendly commerce that happened between them.

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This is the flight of Jesus and his family to Egypt. the ruins of Caesarea Philippi. There are excavations that have been done recently that have uncovered the remains of a great temple dedicated to Pan. It was here in the shadow of this pagan religious center that Peter made his famous declaration about the identity of Christ. It's Jacob's well. This is the actual place that Christ was.

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And this evidence challenges the notion of these sort of rigid, separate Jewish and Gentile states in this region of the first century that many historians back in the day used to believe.

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And a lot of contemporary sources, again, sources of the time around the life and death of Christ, including Josephus, describe these northern territories as these multicultural zones where Jews and Phoenicians and Greeks and Syrians interacted regularly.

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Archaeological findings support this picture as well, revealing multilingual inscriptions and a lot of different architectural styles and varied religious artifacts all within the same area.

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And the discovery of both Jewish and pagan religious items in a household, again, this suggests that there was some type of regular interaction between different cultural groups and that despite the religious restrictions of these two different groups, there was some type of common cultural exchange.

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And the remains of a lot of these ancient harbors at Tyre and Sidon, along with the trade routes that connected them to Caesarea Philippi and the Galilean heartland, demonstrate how these different regions were so economically interdependent at this time.

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again, modern archaeology, has mapped extensive road networks showing that, you know, all of these places were connected even in the time of Christ. Maybe one of the most famous, you know, sort of features of Christ's ministry is a little artifact known as Jacob's Well, which is still accessible today in the crypt of a Greek Orthodox church in Nablus. It stands as one of the

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you know, few sites where we can say with reasonable certainty, this is the actual place that Christ was. Archaeological excavations confirm that this, you know, has been in continuous use since at least the early Roman period, making it One of the rare sort of sites that has a physical connection to a specific gospel event.

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The depth of the well is measured at around 135 feet, which again matches the ancient descriptions and demonstrates the sort of sophisticated engineering of these early water systems. The archaeological remains at nearby Mount Gerizim tell a compelling story of Samaritan religious life.

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We're going all the way to Bethlehem, and it's recorded in the Gospel of Luke, and it begins at the Roman census. So there you have it on the screen. You got Bethlehem right there at the bottom, and that is where it all starts for our boy. So this happens under the governorship of Quirinius in Syria, but it presents an interesting story.

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Excavations uncovered the ruins of this massive temple complex destroyed by John Hieraconus around 111 or 110 B.C. And the scale of these remains, including these mikvots, these ritual baths, admin buildings, and the massive temple itself, demonstrated that the Samaritan community wasn't some insignificant sect, but a powerful religious group with their own sophisticated sort of cultural center.

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And the discovery of thousands of coins and inscriptions of the site revealed this sort of wealthy, organized community. So first century Jewish kind of Samaritan relations were kind of complicated.

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So again, this historian we talked about before, Josephus, he documents violent clashes between these communities, including an incident where Samaritans scattered human bones in the temple in Jerusalem to defile it. Archaeological evidence shows that both groups maintained these sort of separate ritual baths, water systems, religious centers, and temples, deliberately avoiding this shared usage.

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Yet, paradoxically, ceramic and coin evidence suggests that regular economic interactions between the communities actually still occurred, kind of showing that prejudice and dislike kind of gets limited when a little bit of cash is involved. And so these ancient water systems throughout Samaria reveal... a really sophisticated engineering achievement.

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There's surveys of the land that has been mapped to show aqueducts and cisterns and wells that sustained large populations of people through this water management. And these kinds of systems often crossed a lot of the religious and ethnic boundaries that were put up, right? Because the same springs and aquifers served everybody. The water doesn't care what you are.

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So both Jewish and Samaritan communities relied on these water sources, creating this sort of contradiction between the theological separation and sort of this practical day-to-day life that they both relied on each other. And a lot of recent excavations revealed how these communities developed this water sharing agreement.

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So we have evidence from the Roman period showing that Samaria was far from a backwater region. Right. Excavations in Sebastia, which is ancient Samaria, have uncovered kind of a cosmopolitan city with Greek, Roman and some local architecture.

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And archaeologists today suggest that, you know, the region, despite this religious tension, functioned as a crucial economic and cultural bridge between Judea and Galilee.

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Again, I think understanding this historical context is really important to, you know, hearken back to the Gospel of Luke and kind of give context to this idea of the Good Samaritan, this parable that a lot of people have heard. And again, Jesus uses this parable as, you know, a way to answer a man's question about who his neighbor is and who he should be kind to. And he emphasizes that, you know,

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true neighborly love transcends this social and ethnic boundary right and that you know in the story you have a traveler that's beaten and left for dead by these robbers and a priest and a levite you know both like religious figures within the community they pass by without helping however it's just a gosh darn samaritan a member of this group that is you know traditionally at odds with the ancient jews he stops to help and tends to the man's wounds and you know

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historical puzzle off rip as Luke's timing appears to conflict with Matthew's account, placing Jesus' birth during Herod the Great's reign, which ended between 5 BC and 1 AD. And the intersection of this Roman administrative history and the biblical narrative gives our first glimpse into just the massive complexity of piecing together ancient historical events with the records that we still have.

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pays for his care. And the central message of this is that compassion and mercy should be extended to anyone in need, because it also can be extended to you when you need it. And this takes us to the final journey of Christ. So Jerusalem during the Passover in the first century was a just a powder keg of religious and political tension.

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Again, archaeologists have discovered that the Temple Mount and the surrounding areas reveal how the city swelled, I mean, to many, many multiples of its normal population during these festivals, these big religious holidays.

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And these recent excavations of the first century kind of show the street network, particularly along the stepped street near the Pool of Siloam, show how the pilgrims would have made their way up to the temple.

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These streets, built by Herod the Great and maintained by Pontius Pilate, were engineered to handle these massive crowds, though perhaps not the kind of crowd that would soon accompany Jesus. The Pool of Bethesda, discovered in the 9th century, provides kind of like a you know, an archaeological confirmation of the gospel account.

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So you have these sort of five, like, covered porch structure type things that are described in John chapter 5, and this matches the archaeological remains precisely, particularly at the Pool of Siloam, uncovered in 2004, which reveals the exact features, the exact features described in the ancient texts.

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These discoveries include the original steps where people would have gathered, again, this ritual bath for purification, this water system that connects to a local spring. The Mount of Olives, actually, is another crucial piece of this archaeological evidence of the first century and kind of the Jewish burial practices there. of the people of that time.

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So excavations have uncovered thousands of period tombs, these ritual baths, and olive presses that demonstrate the area's significance. So some of the findings show that this ridge was a major gathering point for pilgrims entering into Jerusalem, offering offerings

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this beautiful, dramatic view of the temple, the same way that Jesus would have had when, you know, he wept over the city, according to Luke's account. Bethany, located near the Mount of Olives on the eastern slope, has revealed layers of history through this archaeological investigation.

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While a lot of the Byzantine-era tombs are later than Jesus' time, excavations have uncovered first-century domestic structures and even some burial caves. that match the gospel's description of the village. The archaeological record shows that it was small, but a prosperous community, likely supported by a lot of the pilgrims and the people that would actually go there for these big events.

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And the most compelling archaeological evidence comes from the Temple Mount itself. The massive stones of the Western Wall and the recent excavated ritual bath near the southern steps and the the debris from the temple's destruction in 70 AD, all testify to the tumultuous events of the period.

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These findings, again, can kind of give context as to why entering Jerusalem during Passover was dangerous, right? The city was not just crowded, but it was packed with all sorts of religious and political fervor against the Roman rule, all centered around the temple that Herod had rebuilt. So... That is basically everything that we know from the biblical account.

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This is not going to get into the Mormons saying that Jesus went to America or maybe some of the other folks that suggest that Jesus had actually gone to India during his younger years because it's so hard to get any type of documented evidence that support those types of claims. Mormonism, I don't know as well, to be honest with you.

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That actually would be a great topic for an episode that I would love to dive into. I'd be curious, why do they think that Jesus came to America? Let's just do a quick little search. So, yeah, I guess the Mormon account comes from the Book of Mormon itself, that after the resurrection of Christ, he appeared to people in America. Is that more or less what it is? Pretty much.

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We got to do a deep dive. Because who am I to say that's not what happened? You know what I mean? I believe Jesus resurrected, came back from the dead. Has it possibly popped over to America? I guess I have to jump in to find out maybe a topic for a new episode. I'm curious, what did you guys think? What do you think of the travels of Christ? Did he make it to India? Did he go to America?

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Bethlehem, for the record, I think it's important to point out, holds a profound significance in ancient Jewish tradition. So the prophet Micah, maybe you've heard of him, he referred to it as being, quote, small among the clans of Judah, yet marked it as the prophesied birthplace of a future ruler. Just saying.

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Or did he just stay in this little region of the Middle East that we now know today? I'd be curious to know. Let me know your thoughts. Please drop a comment below. And shout out to all the people that helped Jesus escape King Herod and all that stuff. He popped into a spot in Egypt. Shout out to them. They need to get a little bit more respect for that.

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And if you have any suggestions for a future video or a topic you would love to see that maybe talks about your faith, maybe an obscure thing about someone else's faith that you don't understand, or anything else from any religion from all time from around the world, I would love to know. Drop it in the comments. I'll be reading all of them. And this has been another episode of Religion Camp.

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Peace be with you.

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So this small town about six miles south of Jerusalem already kind of like earned its place in Jewish history as the birthplace of King David, right? So that's pretty important.

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I mean, the Bible does this, the Torah, and many other ancient texts where there's all sorts of prophecies where the scholars and prophets of old will kind of call the shot, point to the future and say, this is going to happen. So, of course, if King David is from Bethlehem, you can imagine Jesus being the new David of the bloodline of David will then also be from the same place.

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And Micah says it's going to be the birthplace of a future ruler, which has to improve, like, property value, right? Yeah. If you're moving into a district, you have to fight tooth and nail to get into a good district in New York City. Imagine you're moving to a district, the real estate agent's like, yeah, technically the next king will be born in this area. So just keep that in mind.

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You basically put yourself in the lottery for... Untold power, maybe even being the savior of the universe. I'm just saying. You think that the real estate agent would pepper that in. It's like open floor plan, HOAs, super, super easy, and your kid could be Jesus. So I'm just saying if I was back in the day, that's what I'd be doing. Make that into an HGTV show. Stat.

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Anyway, archaeological evidence from the late 1st century BC and even into the early 1st century AD shows us a settled agricultural community, folks out there just farming, having some cattle. And although the exact size during the period of this area of Bethlehem is still kind of up for scholarly discussion, some debate, if you will.

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The most tangible historical marker that we have today is the Church of the Nativity. This was constructed 326 AD under Emperor Constantine and his mother Helena. The church, one of the oldest continuously operating Christian churches in the entire world, was built to mark the traditional site of Jesus' birth.

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While the structure itself kind of post-dates the actual events by about three centuries, the representation of the location in early Christian tradition about the birthplace is considered credible enough to warrant some type of imperial patronage.

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The Gospel of Luke tells us that when Mary and Joseph arrived, they found, quote, no place for them at the inn, as you probably heard in a couple songs. Luke 2, chapter 2, verse 7. You can check it out there. This detail has, again, sparked considerable debate about the nature of accommodation and what the Airbnb situation was like in the first century Bethlehem.

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Archaeologists from modern times that have gone back have gone through, and in this period, there's evidence that your typical Judean home often had space for guests, usually upper rooms or some type of attached facility. And the word translated as inn, It comes from Kataluma in Greek. How's my pronunciation, Christos?

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So we're going through everything and where he went in his travels back in the day. This episode's got everything. So let's jump in. What's up, people, and welcome back to Religion Camp. Welcome to my tent.

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All right, enough. And this could also refer to a guest room in a private home, suggesting potentially an even more nuanced picture than our traditional understanding of like a ramada. So probably not a ramada back in the day. I mean, again, I don't know. No one really knows.

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But it seems like it's more likely just like, you know, an efficiency, a place that like a Cuban 20-year-old would live with his parents, just like a little side house type vibe. And the historical context of the journey is, again, really important for understanding the significance, right?

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So this was a period of Roman administrative control over Judea with imperial power extending into the daily lives of its subjects through exile. mechanisms like a census and stuff like that. Again, if you were under the sort of occupation by the Romans and you're a person that lives in Judea, you don't necessarily have the same rights, you could say, as a proper Roman citizen in Rome.

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So this is also a pivotal moment in history because this is a time of intense messianic expectation amongst the Jewish population and the high priests of the area. There's tons of prophetic traditions converging on Bethlehem as this sight of religious significance. So what route would you have taken to Bethlehem during this pivotal moment? Well, that's where we go to the Gospel of Matthew.

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And this provides our only historical account of one of the most mysterious journeys in religious history ever. This is the flight of Jesus and his family to Egypt. So according to Matthew chapter 2, verses 13 to 15, an angel appeared to Joseph in a dream, warning him to flee with Mary and Jesus to escape King Herod's wrath.

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What followed was a journey that would later be remembered as one of the seven sorrows of Mary within Catholic tradition. Although the historical details remain unknown.

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unfortunately pretty sparse so let's examine what we actually know about the political climate that spurred this hasty departure all right so you got harrod the great this guy which my opinion not so great kind of a misnomer i mean if you have to put great in your name you're probably a piece of shit hot take alexander the great i mean i guess it depends how you ask right

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If you ask the people of, I don't know, Alexandria that he slaughtered, I guess he did a lot of conversion and kind of like let them do their thing. All right, regardless, you get my point. So, Herod the Great, this, you know, again, this is from contemporary historical sources that confirm this, was notorious for his paranoid brutality. So many of these despots and dictators become so paranoid.

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I mean, Stalin infamously was like the most paranoid dude in the world. Matter of fact, Stalin dies... Because he tests his men. He's inside his chambers and there are guards on the outside of his room and he's testing them. And he basically is like, you know, doing these tests where he'll like yell for help and they'll come in and then he'll punish them for trying to help. And then eventually...

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My name is Mark Gagnon, and this is the show where we explore the most interesting, fascinating, controversial stories from every religion from around the world from all time ever in the universe. Thank you for joining me. I truly appreciate it. I'm joined by my friend Christos on the ones and twos, on the dials over there on the sticks. How are you, Christos? Doing well.

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Bro has a heart attack. He's yelling inside his room. He's like calling for help. And the guards go, we're not going in there because we've been punished before. So you get what you get. But he was so paranoid. He was like, I don't want anyone coming in my room ever under any circumstance. And that's ultimately what killed him. So Herod, similarly, equally is paranoid.

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The Jewish historian Josephus documents how Herod executed several of his own sons and his beloved wife, Miriam, leading Emperor Augustus to reportedly quip that it was, quote, better to be Herod's pig than his son. This is a pointed reference, as you can imagine, to Herod's observance of Jewish dietary laws while showing basically no restraint to murdering his own boys.

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And this context, I think, is important because it lends credibility to Matthew's account of the family's urgent flight from Herod's jurisdiction. So the presence of Jewish communities in Egypt during this period is well documented, particularly in Alexandria and the Nile Delta region.

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Archaeological evidence and a lot of contemporary writings confirm substantial Jewish settlements in this area at this time, making Egypt a logical refuge for a Jewish family to seek safety. However, it's also important to note that the biblical account doesn't specify which Egyptian community may have hosted the holy family or how long they stayed.

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or really any other major details matthew simply states quote he stayed there until the death of herod what's up guys we're gonna take a quick break because i have great news religion camp has merch that's right we have amazing t-shirts like this one you see here and this one we got hats all sorts of very interesting designs not only for christianity the one i was raised in but for all religions hinduism sikhism islam judaism

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Mormonism. I actually don't know if we have a Mormonism shirt, but maybe we can work on that if we got any, you know, Latter-day Saints trying to cop. Anyway, you can catch it all here at this link. We'll also have it in the description as well as the comments. Get that right now. And peace be with you. Alrighty, don't skip forward, guys, because I am on the road.

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Dates are in the description, also in probably the comments of this episode. Go see me on the road. Come hang out. I'll be hanging out with everyone after the show. Come shake my hand. Call me an idiot. Whatever you want to do, I will be there. Additionally, I will be doing... my one hour of standup comedy. I'm very proud of this hour. I'm really excited to share it with you guys.

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And it would mean the world if everyone could come on out. And what do you wear to a show on the road? That's a great question. You can go to campgoods.co. That's right. We got merch. We got camp merch. We got hats, hoodies, t-shirts. A lot of stuff is out of stock. Things have been selling like hotcakes, but we're going to be restocking everything in all the sizes.

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All right, enough, enough, enough. I just wanted to say thank you to everybody that checked out the videos on Sikhism and the Ark of the Covenant. Just really cool feedback, both from Sikh people, but also folks not of that faith background. This one dude, who is this? EFGABCD. That's a trash username. He said he was homeless for two days in the UK and went to a Gurudwara.

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So you can go there right now, get all the merch, get all the coolest clothing in the podcast. game. We're going to be updating that site regularly. And if you come out to a show, I'd love to see you sporting some of the threads that we got up online. I'll see you guys there. Let's get back to the show.

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While traditional routes between Judea and Egypt existed, including the ancient Via Maris, aka the Way of the Sea, and that connected Egypt with a lot of the Northern territories, we cannot definitively state which path the family took.

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The Via Maris, well-documented in archaeological records and all that stuff, would have provided a possible route, but claiming any specific itinerary goes far beyond any type of historical or biblical evidence. What we do know from the archaeological findings is that this period saw a ton of travel and trade between

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Judea and Egypt making a journey challenging, but completely feasible and possible even in that time. Matthew frames this journey as the fulfillment of a prophecy from the book of Hosea for chapter 11, verse one, quote, out of Egypt, I called my son.

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This scriptural connection would have had a deep significance for Matthew's obviously Jewish audience, deliberately paralleling the Exodus narrative. And archaeological evidence from this period shows continued cultural and religious connections between Jewish communities in Judea and Egypt, suggesting that this kind of connection

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you know, parallel, this biblical parallel, you could say, would have resonated with a lot of the readers of that time. The historical reality of the Jewish refugees seeking safety in Egypt during political upheavals is also really well documented, right? I mean, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were not the only ones. So though we have no specific archaeological evidence of Jesus' family among them,

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So, yeah, I mean, if we could pull up a map again, I'd actually be curious to see how far that is. So this is Galilee right there. We have Nazareth. And then you got to go all the way down Jerusalem, Bethlehem. And then Egypt is right down there. I mean, that's a bit of a hike, if I do say so myself. Right. Especially back in the day. No AC, no bodega. Just had to hoof it.

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So now we get to Nazareth. This is a funny place. It's actually hilarious. There's a verse in the Bible where they're talking about Jesus of Nazareth. And the guys are looking at each other and they're like, what good has ever come out of Nazareth? Like, it's just like, it's hilarious. It's like being like Jesus of Toledo. You're like the saviors from Toledo, Ohio. You're like, yeah, of course.

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Why not? So in 2009, an archaeologist by the name of Yardena Alexandre made a discovery that transformed our understanding of Nazareth in this first century. So under a modern convent, her team uncovered what the Israel Antiquities Authority confirmed as a first century house. And this wasn't some grand structure. We're not talking about some mansion with all sorts of rooms and stuff.

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The story of the Prophet Muhammad begins before his birth with a series of prophecies and miracles. Orphaned merchant in the middle of the Arabian desert that basically alters the course of human history. How does this person, with no formal education, no army, no political power, ends up founding one of the great religions of the world, the Prophet Muhammad's mother?

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But then came the question, who would have the honor of placing the sacred black stone back into its place? And this argument grows heated. People get pissed off. People, they're yelling at each other. Hands goes to swords and now they're holding swords to each other. And it seems like they're going to kill each other. There's going to be absolute mayhem and violence at the Kaaba.

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Then someone suggests, let's wait for the next man to walk through the gates of the sanctuary and let's just let him decide. And that man was none other than the Prophet Muhammad. And given his reputation as al-Amin, the trustworthy, the tribes agreed to trust him. So Muhammad, in his sage wisdom, takes a cloak, spreads it on the ground. and places the black stone at the center.

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Then he asked each of the tribal leaders to hold a corner of the cloth, and together they lifted it. And once it reached the proper height, Muhammad placed the stone in position with his own hands. The crisis averted. It's now that all of the leaders of the region got to place the stone together. Pretty clever. So by his mid-20s, Muhammad was hired by a woman named Khadija.

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This was a wealthy merchant to lead basically like a trading caravan. He returned not just with profit, but with so much integrity that she noticed, and she actually proposed marriage And he accepted. She was older, established, wise, and he was steady, principled and calm. And they had a great sort of bond, you know, a well-known and respected chapter in Islamic history.

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She believed in him before anyone else would. Together they built this quiet life, children, business, a home, but something deeper stirred in the prophet. The idols meant absolutely nothing. The rituals hollow. The injustice around him really weighed on his spirit. So... He began to climb away from Mecca into the hills, into the cave of Hira.

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There, in solitude, he searched for what he wasn't sure just yet. But it was there that one of the most significant turning points in human history unfolded when silence broke into revelation, and the Prophet Muhammad became a messenger of So, in the silence of the cave, this is ultimately shattered.

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It's no longer quiet, and instead a presence fills the air, and then a voice, and then a figure appears before Muhammad. It is the angel Jabril, who, if you were raised Catholic or Protestant or anything like that, you may know the angel Gabriel.

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who infamously delivered the annunciation of jesus birth to mary the angel jabril goes to muhammad and says to him ikra or read and muhammad responds i'm not the one who reads it is useful to note at this point that muhammad was illiterate and the angel embraced him tightly and said read

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This happened three times, and then the words came, not from his own memory, not from his own voice, but carried through him, basically in some divine revelation. "'Read in the name of your Lord who created, created man from a clot. Read, and your Lord is the most generous, who taught by the pen, taught man what he knew not.'" And what exactly is Muhammad reading?

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Well, the Arabic word ikra can mean to read or recite. The command was more about receiving and proclaiming the divine words, perhaps from the same small, still voice that was revealed as God to the prophet Elisha in the book of Genesis. You know, kings. The irony of read is that it adds to the miracle.

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But I think that it is fundamental if you have a desire to understand people and cultures and how people interact with each other. I think you must understand the God that they worship. I don't know if it's possible to be like, yo, I completely understand what it means to be a Muslim in the world or even a Muslim in America without understanding who Allah is, right?

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It was unlikely that Muhammad was, you know, plagiarizing these words from existing scripture because he didn't know how to read in the first place. As anyone would do, Muhammad fled the cave in fear with his heart racing, unsure if he was losing his mind or... being burdened with too large a responsibility if this even was true, he rushed down the mountain to Khadija.

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She held him and comforted him. She didn't doubt him for a second, and she became the first believer of Islam. Then she took him to her cousin, Waraka ibn Nafal, a Christian Arabic ascetic.

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Warwicka listened intently and confirmed what Muhammad feared and sort of hoped in kind of the same measure, that he had encountered the same angel who had come to Moses or Musa in Islamic tradition, that this was a real revelation that he was some type of chosen messenger.

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And the words came to the Prophet Muhammad in many different forms, most famously through the angel Jabril, but also through dreams. And sometimes the revelations came down like a ringing of a bell, as described by Muhammad himself. Eventually, those around him would begin to write down these messages on parchment, leather, or even palm leaves.

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And today, those writings are compiled together in the Islamic holy book known as the Quran. The Islamic message had begun and it would continue to unfold over a period of 23 years. And the command was clear. This message was not for the prophet Muhammad alone. It was for all of humanity. But for the first three years, he kind of kept quiet about it. One conversation at a time.

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sort of talking to his friends, a pause, you know, between merchant dealings to bring up some of these ideas. And the first to follow him were the people closest to him, Khadija, the first believer, then Ali, his young cousin, barely in his teens at that point, then Zayed, his adopted son, who was a former slave, and Abu Bakr, his closest friend. Each of them would go on to shape Islamic history.

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But in those early days, they were just a handful of believers praying quietly, learning verses as they were revealed and trying to make sense of this unfolding message. Much like the Christian apostles, they would meet in sort of, you know, like these secret homes.

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Before going out to spread their message, which would make sense if you consider that when revelations are given, these are usually followed by pushback from the existing order, right? Like the Pharaoh doubled the workload of the slaves after Moses' revelation. The aftermath of Jesus' life led to centuries of persecution. Roman persecution for Christians.

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And, you know, the Mughal rulers often responded with violence when they felt threatened by the gurus of, you know, Sikhi. So the Prophet Muhammad was no exception to this pattern. His message was a challenge to Mecca's entire structure, right? The spiritual, economic, and social norms of the day.

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And the Quraysh weren't just religiously invested in idol worship, they were financially dependent on it. Again, the Kaaba at this point is

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Or a Hindu without understanding, you know, Brahma or Islam. a Sikh without, you know, reading the works of the great gurus. So all that to say, this is another attempt at me to dive deeper in my understanding about what it really means to be a Muslim. And there's no better place to dig into than the life of the Prophet. Yes, that prophet, Muhammad. Peace be upon him.

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And again, it depends if you ask, you know, a Muslim or not, but the prevailing theory amongst, you know, many Muslims is that the Kaaba was originally, you know, this place that reflects in heaven, you know, the same sort of, you know, movement and worship and worship. It was built, you know, by Adam and then eventually by Abraham.

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And then it was sort of reclaimed by the prophet, which we will get to. But before the prophet reclaims it, it's being used for idol worship. There's all sorts of different pagans from all sorts of different places that all have their idols there. And the Quraysh are like, hey, let's just let everyone worship here and just charge them a little fee to come in.

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So pilgrims come from all across Arabia to honor their tribal gods. So you can imagine that they weren't too happy about this whole, you know, revelation thing saying like, hey, all your gods are BS. And there's actually only one God. When the command finally came to proclaim the message openly, he climbed to Mount Safa and called out to the people.

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If I told you there was an army behind this hill, would you believe me? They said yes, of course, after all, he was al-Amin, the trustworthy. Then he famously said, I am a warner to you of a severe punishment. And some kind of like laughed, some people were confused, but most were sort of pissed off, to be honest, specifically like the elites.

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Even his own uncle, Abu Wahab, kind of made fun of him. He said, may you perish. Is this why you gathered us? From that moment, the opposition began. Quiet disbelief turned into this open mockery and hostility, but the hostility intensified. And so did the revelations.

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I mean, verses continued to descend to the prophet sharper now, confronting the oppression, arrogance, hoarding, the injustice of the region. And the words spoke of pharaohs and past nations brought down by their pride and praised, you know, this patience and demanded honesty and condemned these practices such as, you know, killing and burying infant daughters alive, all of this stuff.

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It wasn't just this spiritual revival. It was a social and societal reform in that the early believers, many of them, you know, this worth and this power and ultimately found one God. A well-known story tells of one of the Abyssian slaves who had been beaten for refusing to return to idol worship after, you know, hearing the words of the prophet.

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And with stones crushing his chest, he kept repeating Ahad, Ahad, meaning one, one. And this was, in a way, I mean, kind of literally theological warfare. The one monotheistic God versus many deities of many different clans. And it was a reaffirmation of the Abrahamic message. And at the center of it, Muhammad, right?

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Calm, reciting words from this realm that's only sort of available to him as the prophet. And like many other religious visionaries, he was mocked and made fun of and maligned. And I mean, the Quraysh accused him of sorcery. I mean, they straight up were like, yo, this guy is like a wizard or something, right? But he continued to offer these words, words that would

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make you know the the idols of mecca you know fearful as well as the men who profited from them so the opposition continues muhammad was mocked insulted and stoned one story actually goes that as he prayed near the kaba someone dumped the entrails of a camel literally like the guts of a camel on his back And his daughter, Fatima, still just a child, rushed to clean him.

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Muhammad remained calm in such situations, often showing forgiveness and kind of turning to the cheek rather than fighting back, kind of almost a Christ-like response if you're growing up Catholic. And this revelation continued to descend. When persecution intensified, the words offered comfort. And when the prophet was defamed, the Quran would defend him.

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So I'm also going to say this. I'm not going to say peace be upon him for the whole time, okay? I just can't. Just for the interest of flow and expedience, I'm just going to give it one big piece up top. You know how I feel.

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Unable to silence his message, the Quraysh turned to collective punishment. The clans of Banu Hashim and Banu al-Mutalib, the prophet's family, were placed under this economic boycott. No one was allowed to trade with them, marry into their families, protect them, nothing. And this was basically disaster for the prophet and everyone he knew.

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They were forced to retreat to a valley on the outskirts of Mecca and Inevitably, being ostracized from society, food becomes scarce. And the cries of these hungry children that they had begins to echo through the night. And for three years, they endured, held together by just this faith and this family loyalty and this resilience. And eventually...

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The boycott ended, but the damage had been done. It weakened their position immensely, especially for the elderly. And the tragedy for Muhammad and his family didn't stop there. Soon after, in what would be known as the Year of Sorrow, two of the Prophet's greatest supporters had passed away. His beloved wife, Khadija, and his protective uncle, Abu Talib.

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One offered him this spiritual strength, and the other this sort of... political shield in a way. And the loss was devastating for the prophet. And at this point, things seem kind of hopeless. Muhammad is in the midst of this Jobian tragedy. Everything gets taken away from him. He loses his parents. He can't read. He loses his wife. He loses his uncle. He loses his grandfather.

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I mean, it's just tragedy after tragedy. And in the depths of the loss and the grief, he experienced something unlike anything before, really. I mean, this famous journey that is miraculous. in every way. So here's a story. What's up, people? Quick announcement. If you are a fan of Camp Gagnon or Religion Camp, I have great news because we are dropping History Camp. That's right.

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This is the channel where we're going to be exploring the most interesting, fascinating, controversial topics from all time throughout all history, right? You probably know about Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Nikola Tesla, interesting figures from history, and you probably learned about them in school and they were pretty boring, but not here. No.

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As you know, I was raised by a conspiracy theorist, so I'm going to be diving deep into all of the interesting, strange, occult, and secretive societal relationships that all of these famous influential men from our shared past have. So if you're interested, please go ahead and subscribe to the YouTube channel. It will be pinned in the description as well as the comments.

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And if you're on Spotify, this doesn't really apply to you, but these episodes will be dropping as well. Just go ahead and give us a high rating because it really helps the show. All righty. Don't skip forward, guys, because I am on the road. World's fastest ad read coming at you.

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That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it feels try hard. So I'm just going to give a big one, big old piece. All right, shout out to the Prophet. Shout out to the Muslims out there watching. And yeah, from henceforth, it will be either just the Prophet or Muhammad. So this is a fascinating human being. Right.

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I'm going to be at Buffalo, Raleigh, Poughkeepsie, Portland, Oregon, Fort Worth, Texas, Austin, Texas, Stanford, Philly, Levittown, Chandler, Arizona, San Diego. I'm also going to be adding Toronto, Montreal, as well as Washington, D.C., and a bunch of other dates. You can get all that at themarkagnon.com. Dates are in the description, also in probably the comments of this episode.

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Go see me on the road. Come hang out. I'll be hanging out with everyone after the show. Come shake my hand. Call me an idiot. Whatever you want to do, I will be there. Additionally, I will be doing my one hour of stand-up comedy. I'm very proud of this hour. I'm really excited to share it with you guys, and it would mean the world if everyone could come on out.

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And what do you wear to a show on the road? That's a great question. You can go to campgoods.co. That's right. We got merch. We got camp merch. We got hats, hoodies, T-shirts. A lot of stuff is out of stock. Things have been selling like hotcakes, but we're going to be restocking everything in all the sizes, so you can go there right now.

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Get all the merch, get all the coolest clothing in the podcast game. We're going to be updating that site regularly. And if you come out to a show, I'd love to see you sporting some of the threads that we got up online. I'll see you guys there. Let's get back to the show. One night as the prophet was resting near the Kaaba, he was awoken by the angel Jabril and brought...

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It's known in Islamic tradition as a Mount al-Barak. If you don't know, this is basically almost like a horse-like mythical divine steed, you could say. And here's a picture of it to give you context. And it was described as faster than any beast, glowing and unlike anything else.

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And with it, the prophet traveled from Mecca to Jerusalem, the city he had never visited yet, which the Quran calls the farthest mosque. This story is famously known as the Night Journey. There, at al-Masjid al-Aqsa, he led in prayer a congregation of prophets, Moses, Jesus, Abraham, and many others. It was a symbolic moment, the final prophet now among those who came before, connected forever.

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not only in the spiritual sense, but literally in space and time, all in the same spot, all happening simultaneously. I mean, that's pretty crazy. That's one of the more wild elements of Islam that I never got told. The night journey? I mean, that's crazy. And it's a who's who of people involved. I mean, for real. I mean, that's wild.

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It also gives a lot of context as to why Jerusalem for the Muslims is such an important place and why this mosque of Al-Aqsa is so fundamental. I'm sure there's probably more to it. Again, I don't know all the details, but even as doing research on this, this makes so much more sense. This idea that literally this place was done as a point to prayer at this mosque with the other great prophets.

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I mean, just wild. But the story keeps going. Then came, you know, the ascent known as the Mirage. From Jerusalem, he was taken up through the heavens. And at each level, he met prophets of earlier nations, Adam, Idris, Joseph, Aaron, and others until he finally stood before the divine. What exactly transpired there is not recorded in specific detail, but it was intimate, sacred, and immense.

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I mean, basically all I knew prior to this was that you have this illiterate orphaned merchant in the middle of the Arabian desert that basically

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If you've ever wondered why Muslims pray five times a day, the story of the Mirage will tell us why. From this meeting with God, one key command was given to his people, prayer, which is why it is such an integral part of the Muslim life today. Initially, 50 prayers a day. It was eventually, through intercession and mercy, reduced to five, yet with the reward of the original 50.

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The ritual that was, you know, that now structures the rhythm of Muslim life was born not from some sermon, but from this divine meeting with Allah itself. But again, it makes sense. What do I always say on this show? If you want to understand a people, you have to understand that God they worship. If you look at these Muslims, you're like, oh, you guys are praying all the time. What's that about?

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Here you go. The Prophet Muhammad, he ascends into heaven. When does he do that? Well, you got to go all the way back. You need to know the whole story. So what happens next? He's talking to Allah. Well, he returns. And when the Prophet returns, he described the journey. And as you would expect, many people scoffed. A trip from Mecca to Jerusalem and back in one night is impossible at this point.

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It seems absurd. But Abu Bakr, when told, he responded simply, if he said it, then it is true. Again, al-Amin. The situation in Mecca, however, is continuing to deteriorate. The prophet begins to search for a place where the message could grow and where the community could be safe. So he went to Taif, a town to the east, hoping that its leaders might offer relief.

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Instead, they mocked him and set the street children upon him and basically beat him up. And so bloodied and exhausted, he found shelter in a nearby garden. And there he prayed not for revenge, but for guidance. And it was in this moment of rejection that an unexpected audience listened. a group of jinn.

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alters the course of human history i think what what you know if you're secular if you're muslim christian everyone agrees on that fact and that is crazy to me that is fascinating it's been this question i've been thinking about like you know how does this person with no formal education no army no political power ends up founding one of the great religions of the world It's fascinating, truly.

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Now, if you don't know what jinn are, I would highly recommend that you check out our episode on the jinn. But in short, the jinn are basically these like unseen beings, you know, some of which are sort of evil and, you know, acolytes of shaitan, but some of which, some of the jinn are actually Muslims themselves. And in this exact case, these jinn who hear the prophet's prayers are

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later accept his message. Even when humans closed their ears, the other realms were listening. But the breakthrough came not from power or prestige, but from pilgrims from a place called Yathrib. There they heard the prophet's recitations and they were moved. They were tired of the constant tribal warfare within their city. And this message of unity and justice struck Yathrib.

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A court, the Quraysh, realized the full scale of what was happening and their grip on Mecca was basically going away. And if Muhammad established a base somewhere else, their power would then truly be threatened. So they decided to act, not to imprison him, not to exile him. but to kill him. So a plan was hatched.

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Assassins drawn from each tribe would strike him together so that no one group would be blamed. But on the night of their plot, the Prophet Muhammad and Abu Bakr took refuge in the cave of Thar. To protect them, Allah caused a spider to spin a web across the cave's entrance and a dove to nest nearby. When the Koresh trackers arrived, they assumed that the cave was undisturbed.

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No one could have entered without breaking the web or disturbing the birds, so If there's a web and a bird there, there's obviously no one that just went into it. So they moved on, sparing the prophet's life. Eventually, he made his way to Yathrib, a journey of several days across the desert.

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And in that city, the prophet would not just find safety, he would find something far more important, the foundation of a new society. And Yathrib would be known by a new name, Al-Medina Al-Manawarah. The Radiant City. And Medina wasn't just a new home. It was a divided city in need of healing. So he built the Masjid al-Nabawi, which still stands today.

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It is a mosque that doubled as a school and a court and a gathering place. And then came the Constitution of Medina, a bold social contract uniting Muslims, Jews, and Christians under a single community, known as, you know, an umma in Arabic, with shared rights and responsibilities, which was a groundbreaking step for this, you know, multi-tribal society.

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But it wasn't, you know, completely hiccup free. You had the munafiqun, khutbah, those who outwardly accepted Islam but worked against it. And these people sowed division from within. And outside you have the Quraysh who still wanted the Prophet's silence. Yet Medina grew, not just in numbers, but in spirit.

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into a disciplined and just and diverse community, but soon it would have to defend what it had become. Medina offered Muhammad refuge, but peace was short-lived. The Quraysh saw the Prophet's growing influence as a threat, and they understood that war was coming. And it would test the faith and fortitude of the early Muslims.

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During her pregnancy, extraordinary signs marked the impending birth of a remarkable figure, symbolizing this spiritual illumination that her son would bring into the world, the Cave of Hira. But it was there that one of the most significant turning points in human history unfolded when silence broke into revelation.

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So let's begin at the end of the seventh century. Okay, Christianity has been kind of pumping, to be honest with you. All right, Christianity has been going buck wild, undisturbed expansion, you could say. And it's been kind of spreading across Asia and, you know, Asian minor, the Near East, North Africa, and all over Europe. And Christians had kind of taken on the Roman Empire in one.

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Something that sets the Prophet Muhammad apart from other religious visionaries is that he was a military leader as well as a spiritual one. American Bishop Reverend Bosworth Smith described the Prophet as head of the state as well as the church. He was a Caesar and a Pope in one. And this is actually a fascinating aspect of the prophet's life, right?

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He ruled over secular life as much as religious life.

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Think about, you know, the Christian stories of Jesus rejecting secular leadership and power, such as the story of, you know, temptation in the desert where the devil offers him political power and he says no, or when the Buddha was prophesied to either go down the path of becoming a spiritual leader or a king, and he chose to be a spiritual leader. The prophet was both, right?

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And so the first major clash occurs. This is known as Badr. This is the first major battle. This was a skirmish over a trade caravan that had escalated. The Muslims were outnumbered three to one, but yet they stood firm. And according to tradition, angels descended to aid them. Victory shocked the Muslims. Arabian region. The prophet had gone from exile to a leader that couldn't be ignored.

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But this glory didn't shield them from setbacks. At Uhud, the Muslims initially held their own until archers disobeyed the prophet's instructions and they left their post. The Quraysh counterattacked. The prophet was injured. Many companions were killed, including his uncle Hamza. It was a sobering moment.

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You know, basically this moment with Allah that indicated that victory was not necessarily guaranteed. The Quraysh and their allies tried once more at the Battle of the Trench. Instead of facing them head-on, the Muslims dug a massive trench around Medina, an unheard-of tactic for the time.

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And the siege, you know, as it dragged on and the attackers eventually gave up, worn down by the weather and the hunger... And, you know, the fortitude of the Muslims in Medina. And these battles weren't just about survival. They redrew the map of power and, you know, spirituality in the region.

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The Prophet's leadership was no longer in question, and the Muslims were no longer a persecuted minority. but instead a political force. In the sixth year after the migration from Mecca to Medina, known as the Hijra, the Prophet and over a thousand companions set out towards Mecca. Not for battle, but for pilgrimage.

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They brought no weapons beyond those common for travel, but the Quraysh stopped them. just outside the city. Tensions were high. A confrontation seemed inevitable, but the prophet chose a different path. He chose to negotiate. The result was the Treaty of Hudaybaya. At first, this seemed like a loss for the Muslims.

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They were to turn back without completing the pilgrimage, and it also seemed like the treaty had terms that appeared to favor the Quraysh. Many other Muslims were disappointed, but the Prophet saw beyond the one singular treaty. This specific treaty gave the Muslims something more valuable than this short-term pride. It gave them time. Peace meant the chance to spread the message without war.

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And it worked. In the months that followed, Islam grew faster than ever. And it didn't take long for the Quraysh to break the terms of the treaty. When they attacked an allied tribe of the Muslims, And the prophet had grounds to act. And this time he did. But instead of war, Mecca saw something else. The prophet marched with a vast army of 10,000 toward Mecca.

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So now the Roman state is a Christian nation. And yeah, there's no cultural power that's really comparing to what the Christians are rocking with. That was until it was challenged by one of the most potent religious, political, and cultural forces known to history, Islam. And it all started with one man, the Prophet Muhammad.

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The Quraysh, now weakened and fractured, did not resist. Yet, despite the fact that this could have been an easy win for the Muslims, The prophet entered the city with hardly any bloodshed. There was no revenge, no forced conversions. Instead, he forgave many of the very people who had driven him out years earlier.

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He entered the Kaaba, he removed the idols, every one of them, and restored it as a sanctuary devoted to the worship of one god. Mecca had returned to its original purpose. So with Mecca restored and much of the Arabian region embracing Islam, the Prophet Muhammad's mission neared its basic earthly conclusion, but his message was far from over.

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In the 10th year of the Hijrah, the Prophet set out for what would be his first and final pilgrimage since his return to to Mecca. Over 100,000 Muslims joined him on the journey. At Arafat, he stood before the gathering and delivered his farewell sermon, a powerful summary of his teachings. He reminded the people of their shared humanity. Quote, all mankind is from Adam and Eve.

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An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab over an Arab, except by piety and good action. He spoke of justice, of the sacredness of life and property and the importance of treating women well, and he delivered a final charge. Quote, This example is known as the Sunnah to Muslims.

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It represents the lived practice of the Prophet, his actions and words that serve as a practical guide for how to implement the teachings of the Quran in daily life. Muslims believe that the Quran is the divine message, but the Sunnah shows how that message was understood and applied by the Prophet himself.

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And together, the Quran and the Sunnah form the foundation of Islamic law and ethics, helping believers navigate everything from prayer and charity to justice and compassion. And a final verse was revealed in the farewell sermon, quote, Some companions wept as they understood what that verse truly meant. Shortly after returning to Medina, the prophet became ill.

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It began with fever, and over the next few days, his strength declined. And he continued to lead prayers when he could, leaning on his companions for support. And in his final moments, he was in the apartment of his wife, Aisha, his head resting on her lap. He looked towards the heavens and whispered, "'O Allah, the highest companion.'"

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And those were the final words the Prophet Muhammad spoke as he passed away in 632 AD. So, if there were a Mount Rushmore, perhaps, of... the most influential individuals to ever live. I don't know if you can ignore the prophet, right? And I'm saying this as a Catholic, someone that didn't grow up Muslim at all. I just don't think you can look at the impact that this has had on the world.

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I mean, 150 million people named after him, 2 billion Muslims today. Islam continues to be one of the fastest growing religions in the world. And even just the life of Muhammad, I find to be very interesting, right? Of course, there's going to be things that people point at as critiques and criticisms. That is not the purpose of this channel.

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I'm here to look at all the beautiful, fascinating things that I think unite religions across the world. And this idea that he goes into Mecca and doesn't kill all the Quraysh and doesn't force them to convert, I think is A good sign for Muslims that I know, right? Like most of the Muslims I know are kind and peaceful people. And sure, there's radicals all over the world.

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who was, according to Muslim belief, the final and greatest of God's prophets on Earth. So you've probably never seen an image of him, and you've almost certainly met someone who's been named after him. As today, Muhammad is actually the most popular name given on the planet, basically.

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But I think most of the Muslims that you might meet at your grocery store probably detest them. They denounce it in the way that Christians denounce Christian radicalism, etc. So I don't know if you can really even look at the prophet's life and be like, yo, this guy is not impactful, right?

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And throughout his life, the Quran had been recited, memorized, and written on parchment, stone, whatever was around. And after his passing, fearing that those who knew it by heart would die in battle, the companions around him compiled it into a single text. It was not the prophet's authorship. Remember, he was illiterate. He had never written a book.

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It was, as the Muslims believe, a direct revelation from Allah that he received word for word over 23 years. And today, billions across the world recite those same words in the same language unchanged from that very time after his death. Some have even devoted their entire lives to memorizing the words known as Hafiz if you're a man or Hafiza if you're a woman.

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The fact that you have never seen an image of the Prophet Muhammad is in keeping with his message that at the heart of Islam, there is only one God. I think it's actually an interesting point, right? Because the Prophet Muhammad becomes united with Jesus in Jerusalem during this night ride, right? And

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It's just interesting to me seeing kind of the overlap that, you know, Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet of Allah that then, you know, Christians, you know, sort of ignorantly or falsely worship, that they actually are supposed to worship God, but instead they accidentally worship Christ, which is just a mistake.

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And, you know, I wonder if Jews in a similar way, they go, oh, you guys are so close. We have Hashem, but instead you just worshiped the guy that was preaching Hashem's word. You worship the rabbi. You made a mistake. And in that regard, you can see Muhammad's prudence to say, hey, don't put any images of me because it's not about me. I'm not one to be worshiped.

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I've seen when people worship the prophet and not Allah himself. So don't put up any images of me. I don't want to be worshiped. Only worship the one true God. And this is a foundational tenet of Islam, this idea of Tawid, which is the monotheism, which is arguably the borderline, the most important tenet of Islam is that there is one God.

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And by understanding the history of where the Muslims came from, this moment at the Kaaba when there's pagan idols all over the place.

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the purpose of that conquest was to restore taweed monotheism to the region so you can understand why it's such a you know presiding force by you know of the faith and so the prophet chooses to not have any images of him that exist despite his importance of course you know muslims believe that he was a human messenger of god and depicting him with you know images or statues could again run the risk of

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I mean, yeah, it's like number one, which I always found funny that Muhammad's the most popular name in the world, and I think Wang is the most popular last name.

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turning into idol worship that he fought so hard against. The Indian philosopher Ramakrishna Rao shows us a dramatic set of scenes that make up Muhammad's life as he described all the different roles that he fulfilled.

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So you have Muhammad the prophet, then you have Muhammad the warrior, Muhammad the businessman, the statesman, the orator, the reformer, the refuge of orphans, the protector of slaves, the emancipator of women, the judge, and the saint. There's one other title that Muslims will be familiar with, and that is the seal of the prophets, as he is the last of God's messengers.

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Whatever you choose to call him, his influence is felt in the global force that is Islam. So there you have it. That is the life of the prophet. And I don't know. I'm always moved when you kind of go to the source material of any faith. You're kind of like, man, this makes a lot of sense. I always think about the quote that Gandhi said.

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Gandhi said, he says, I love your Christ, but I just don't know about the Christians. This is his perspective on Christianity. He says, I love the teachings of Christ, but it's the people that mess it up. And I think that's true for any faith, right? You get to the source material and you're like, oh, wow, this is actually really kind of profound.

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And most of the bad feelings I feel like that people have about different religions is typically about about the people that they encounter and the human brokenness that kind of warps or distorts any type of faith and not the actual source material in it of itself.

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But there's no Muhammad Wangs. It's kind of strange, right?

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So, you know, people can bag on Christianity all you want, but you look at the Bible and read the words of Christ and the gospel, and you go, oh, that's pretty good. And you can, you know, pick on Islam if you want to, but read the Quran, and you look at it, and you go, oh, wow, this is actually pretty remarkable.

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This guy would go into, you know, he would go into Mecca, not spare any blood, like almost no bloodshed, and return the Kaaba to its, you know, original purpose. And I think furthermore, you know, I think this is often neglected in looking at the prophet's life, that he had a love for, you know, what he called the people of the book.

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And that's not only Muslims, that's Christians and Jews, all the people of Abrahamic faith. And he had this compassion toward other pagan faiths in general, right? Like it wasn't all this forced conversion and the sword.

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And in my opinion, this is often a neglected point of Islam that I think is worth pointing out that most of the Muslims that I know are kind and compassionate and have a desire to convert rationally because they believe that they're following the one true faith. And I think that's worth celebrating. So all that to say.

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What's your theory on when?

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If you have any comments or ideas or thoughts in hearing the life of Muhammad, I'd love to hear them. If you're Muslim, tell me, did I miss anything? Did I get anything wrong? If you're not Muslim, what did you think? Did you see overlap or connection with your own faith background? And once again, thank you so much for joining me in my tent.

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I like that. So this is one of the most popular names that's passed out. And in today's episode, we're going to go through his whole life. So let's go to the birth of the prophet. Much like Jesus and Siddhartha, the story of the prophet Muhammad begins...

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Before his birth, with a series of prophecies and miracles, Arabia at this time was a home to diverse peoples, clans, cultures, you know, all filled the deserts and, you know, towns nearby. Mecca, the birthplace of Muhammad, was a sanctuary which attracted pilgrims from across the region where, you know, various tribes worshipped an array of people.

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idols and they practice polytheism uh if you don't know polytheism this is the worship of multiple gods much of arabia at this time was characterized by what historians would call the jahiliya period which is the age of ignorance mostly because there was an absence of a monotheistic religious framework to basically unify the region but also because of the prevalence of this idol worship and uh you know tribal feuding and a lot of you know social issues that were existing in the region

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This region, matter of fact, was controlled by the Quraish. This is a dominant tribe in Mecca at the time of the prophet's birth. And they looked after the Kaaba, which gave them both religious influence and economic power as pilgrims from across Arabia came here. to the city.

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The Prophet Muhammad was born into one of its respected clans, the Banu Hashim, although his family was not among the wealthiest of the clan by any stretch. It's important to remember that the Quraysh, as they played a central role in both his early protection, but also later his opposition. But Arabia was not completely isolated from other faiths.

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So all that to say, this is another attempt at me to dive deeper in my understanding about what it really means to be a Muslim. And there's no better place to dig into than the life of the Prophet Muhammad, the final and greatest of God's prophets on earth. In today's episode, we're going to go through his whole life. What's up, people, and welcome back to Religion Camp.

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Christianity and Judaism were actually present and interacted with some Arab tribes. There was also a looming expectation, a religious anticipation that some great prophet would soon arise to restore true monotheism to the land. And this is where we are introduced to Amina bint Wab. This is the prophet Muhammad's mother.

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Islamic tradition recounts that during her pregnancy, extraordinary signs marked the impending birth of a remarkable figure. One of the most well-known stories tells of a light radiating from Amina's womb. This light was so intense that it illuminated the household and nearby surroundings, symbolizing this... spiritual illumination that her son would bring into the world.

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And Amina herself reportedly experienced these, you know, sort of auspicious dreams, as did many people that she knew. These dreams, you know, often featured stars and these like radiant figures, almost like these angelic beings and other symbols of great significance.

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And the glowing lights and, you know, the dreams were interpreted by the community as confirmation that some type of divine plan may be unfolding. So 570 CE or AD, Prophet Muhammad was born. And this is the year of the elephant, an event recorded multiple early sources and celebrated within Islamic tradition.

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This year was named after this extraordinary episode when Abraha, the Christian ruler of Yemen, led an army that included elephants to attack Mecca and destroy Abraha. the Kaaba, which if you don't know what the Kaaba is, we have a video on it where I go through the entire history of the Kaaba that I would recommend you check out.

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But at this point, the Kaaba was basically, you know, you could say being desecrated and used as a polytheistic worshiping site, you know, that many different pagans in the region were utilizing, which Muhammad would later come in to restore. So back to Abraha, he basically sends this attack to Mecca, and this turned out to be A massive mistake.

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According to the tradition, the attack was miraculously repelled by divine intervention. Flocks of birds known as Ababil appeared pelting the invading army with stones and forcing their retreat. Mecca was under this divine protection and people were convinced that special things were right about to happen. So...

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Muhammad may be the most popular name given today, but it certainly was not at the time that he was born. It meant, quote, the praised one, a rare name that was not chosen by his father who had already passed, but instead by his grandfather. When asked why he chose it, he basically just said, so he may be praised in the heavens and on earth.

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Much like many other religious leaders, great expectations were placed on his very young shoulders. So at six years old, Muhammad lost a parent for the second time. Aminah's death came suddenly during a journey to the Yathrib, later Medina, which would be significant later on in the story. And this is where she had taken a young Muhammad to visit his maternal relatives.

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On the return journey, somewhere in the barren flatlands of Abwa, she fell ill and passed away. First, he was taken in by his grandfather, Abd al-Muttali, who was already an old man by then. He held the boy in high regard, so much so that young Muhammad was given access to the place of honor under the Kaaba's shade, a spot typically only reserved for elders.

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But tragedy continued to plague Muhammad's early life. Two years later, his grandfather, too, passed away. Now, in the care of his uncle, Abu Talib, who was actually a gifted poet and a very kind man, but not wealthy in any capacity, Muhammad would grow up in pretty modest means. No fine robes or gold or servants or any of that stuff. He tended sheep in the hills of Mecca.

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It's interesting how the divine often brings with pastoral settings, even with other, you know, Abrahamic prophets from Abraham himself to Moses, David, and also in Islam with the Prophet Muhammad, this image of, you know, the shepherd is sort of, it's inseparable from the divine. I mean, Christ is, you know, the shepherd of men that tends to his flock.

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My name is Mark Gagnon, and this is my tent where every single week on Sundays we explore the most interesting, controversial, fascinating stories from all religions from around the world from all times. Today, like most days, I'm joined by the Greek freak, the legend himself, Christos on the shiny buttons. How are you, sir? Doing good.

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It's just interesting that, you know, across all these different Abrahamic religions, the idea of the shepherd was, you know, so pervasive. I wonder if just in the region that, you know, that these ideas were kind of percolating, if that was the most common job or if that was just something that people, you know, if it was useful for the metaphor. I don't know.

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That's an interesting thing that, you know, I'm thinking about. So he's in the hills of Mecca, you know, tending to his his flock. And those hills eventually become, you know, in a metaphorical sense, a teacher for Muhammad in a lot of different ways. I mean, long walks and silence gives him all sorts of time to kind of think. And it was there that he built this sort of calm and calm.

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considerate temperament that would later help him, as we'll see. And away from the bustle of the Koresh market and its rising material ideas, he seemed to develop a quiet but sort of wise and almost soft-spoken character. His temperament was gentle but firm, observant but not withdrawn necessarily. And most importantly, he listened far more than he ever spoke.

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This wisdom earned him the nickname Al-Amin, the trustworthy, not for grand gestures, but because he simply never lied. In a society of complex alliances and rivalries and status games, he just had a simplicity about him that was almost unsettling to some people and earned him this respect from others. Even Gandhi described Muhammad's rigid simplicity as the reason for Islam's success.

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and not necessarily the sword, as many people have claimed. What's up, guys? We're gonna take a quick break because I have great news. Religion Camp has merch, that's right. We have amazing t-shirts like this one you see here and this one.

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We got hats, all sorts of very interesting designs, not only for Christianity, the one I was raised in, but for all religions, Hinduism, Sikhism, Islam, Judaism, Mormonism. I actually don't know if we have a Mormonism shirt, but maybe we can work on that if we got him, you know? Latter-day Saints trying to cop. Anyway, you can catch it all here at this link.

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We'll also have it in the description as well as the comments. Get that right now. And peace be with you. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick because you are a grown child. Yes, you're a giant man child and you just love stuffing your face and all the sugary cereals that you ate when you were a kid.

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When you were just a fat little eight-year-old, you would sit down on your couch and you would just eat these sugary cereals. And nowadays, if you try to do that, like I have, you feel terrible. You go, oh yeah, my blood pressure is rising. I do get a hangover from eating these cereals that I ate when I was a child. And that's why I want to talk to you about Magic Spoon.

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All right, all right. Um, so today we are exploring, I saw a couple of comments about that on the last episode that made me laugh.

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This thing right here, freshly opened because I was just engorging myself. Magic Spoon is all the flavors that you love that come from your favorite nostalgic cereals, flavors like fruity, cocoa, frosted. Do those sound familiar to you? Because legally, I can't say what they are, but those are the flavors that Magic Spoon has. And here's what's amazing about Magic Spoon. It's the same taste.

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It's all the flavor packed into every bite from those childhood cereals, but 13 grams of protein, zero grams of sugar, and four grams of net carbs. Yeah, imagine that. 13 grams of protein. This is protein-packed cereal. So instead of being a little fat kid, you can sit down on Sunday morning, watch your cartoons, and get freaking jacked. Yeah. You'll look like Ronnie Coleman or something.

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You keep on crushing these, you're going to be diesel as hell. So instead of being a little fat boy, you can be a giant strong man, but still keep your same habits of just sitting down and watching your cartoons. And for the listeners of this program, if you go to magicspoon.com slash camp, that's right, magicspoon.com slash C-A-M-P, you're going to get $5 off your next order.

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Yeah. I thought that was great. That is great. Oh, every time I ask you how you do it, it's like, ah. Anyway, guys, we have a fascinating topic to dive into today. Now, let me just preface by saying, I did not grow up Muslim. So, a lot of this is new to me. Now, the whole reason that I do this channel and why I'm fascinated by religions is that I myself grew up religious as a Catholic.

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Magic Spoon on Amazon or at your nearest grocery store. Or you can go to magicspoon.com slash camp C-A-M-P for $5 off. Now let's get back to the show, you fatty. This reputation he earned was sealed by a dispute he resolved regarding the Kaaba. When it fell into disrepair after flooding, the tribes of Mecca came together to try to rebuild it.

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Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh