Mark Gagnon

And this seemed like sort of a bombastic, you know, maybe we say apoplectic response to a fairly simple question.

So I'm curious, why did he respond in this way?

I see.

But he is the co-founder, as are you, the two co-founders.

Well, per Wikipedia, as we said, I read it and you were the co-founder.

So we'll go with that.

So you have sort of come out since that founding day of, you know, a founder of Wikipedia.

Yeah.

And spoken about some of the potential issues as far as Wikipedia as a tool for, you know, the information coercion, can we say, the manipulation of how people think and understand, you know, news and information.

And you haven't really let up.

And this has led you to publishing a sort of thesis about Wikipedia.

how we can reform Wikipedia to be more neutral.

So I guess maybe just for context for the audience, could you take us just to the beginning of Wikipedia in brief, how that was sort of formed and what the original mission of this encyclopedia on the internet was supposed to be?

I see.

Like the wiki taxis in Hawaii.

And that's what these Wiki sort of websites were.

They were more open, less like centralized sort of information sources that people can kind of adjust.

Could you say you're like the Wozniak of Wikipedia?

Are you like the Steve Wozniak of Wikipedia?

Oh, really?