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W. Robert Godfrey

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Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

And when you go back and read their works, one is tempted to say there were actually three great doctors of the church.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

Jerome, Augustine, and Ambrose make sense, although they are all Westerners, and there were some pretty good Easterners that seem to be overlooked in this list.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

But Gregory doesn't seem a theologian who measures up to the quality, the ability of the others on that list.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

And I think the reason that he's on that list is that he left such an imprint on the church through his administrative work, through his organization of the church, through his reform of the liturgy.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

through some of the moral direction that he gave to the church.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

It wasn't that he was a great theologian, but he was a great leader.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

He was a great representative of the emerging mind of the church.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

When Philip Melanchthon, Luther's right-hand man, looked back on the history of the church in the 16th century, he said Gregory was the torchbearer of the new theology that would lead the church astray.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

So Melanchthon at least looked back to Gregory, many other Protestants looked back to Gregory as the point at which the church began to move somewhat astray from the direction of theology that Augustine had set in the West only 150 years earlier.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

And while we can't say that Gregory did that single-handedly,

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

Most things don't happen in history with just one person completely influencing things.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

We can see that emerging character in the life of the churchβ€”we'll see it over and over again as we go through the Middle Agesβ€”that everyone in the Middle Ages in the West wanted to say, we are Augustinian, but we don't really agree with him on certain particular things.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

Now these people were perfectly sincere when they said that.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

They weren't trying to deceive anybody.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

They thought Augustine was a great theologian.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

They thought the church had greatly profited from the teaching of Augustine, and often they weren't fully aware of all the details of what Augustine had taught, and they thought they followed him on the really important points.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

And you could argue in some ways they did, but there were also significant shifts that were taking place.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

And as we look back on it, we say, well, those shifts seem pretty big to us.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

It's pretty huge.

Renewing Your Mind
Justinian and Gregory

Augustine taught that we are saved by grace alone.