W. Robert Godfrey

He was absolutely unambiguous and clear about that.

And the later medieval Augustinians, many of them taught, we are saved by grace alone.

Mostly.

Now, you can see, if you like yourself and think your theology is pretty good, that you would think the difference between saved by grace alone and saved by grace alone mostly is not much of a change, right?

And that's what these medievals, many of them, there were people who did follow Augustine in the Middle Ages.

We'll come back to that as well.

Who did say in the Middle Ages, absolutely, we're saved by grace alone.

But many said were saved by grace alone, mostly, and really thought that they were Augustinian, that they weren't betraying anything essential.

And what they meant and what people like Gregory meant by that is, we cannot be saved except by grace.

Now you see, that is Augustinian to a point.

Pelagius had said we can be saved without grace.

May not happen very often, but it's theoretically possible.

We can be saved without grace.

After the debate between Augustine and Pelagius, nobody in the West argued you could be saved without grace.

In that sense, Augustine had won the absolute victory.

You have to have grace to be saved.

But the question is, if you have to have grace to be saved, where does it come from?

How do you get it?

How do you keep it?

And that's where there was a movement away from the fullness and clarity of what Augustine had said.