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W. Robert Godfrey

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1020 total appearances

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Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Now we all know, at least it always used to be taught in schools, the essential character of the Holy Roman Empire was this.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

It was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

But the power of the idea of continuity was so strong and so attractive

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

that Charles, known to history as Charlemagne, Charles the Great, Charlemagne wanted to be invested with that dignity, with that title, and so it continued.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Finally, really located in Austria, but still that title, still the coronation garb in Vienna, worn at the coronation of the Austrian emperors until 1806, styling themselves Holy Roman Emperors.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

One could even argue that beyond 1806 we see remnants of that Roman Empire.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

The Tsar in Russia insisted that Moscow, after the fall of Constantinople, became the third Rome.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

And the Tsars used Byzantine eagles as the signs of their empire.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

And the word Tsar is derived from Caesar, Caesar, the ancient Roman title.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

So there's a kind of Roman Empire that survives down until 1917.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

And then...

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

In one of the curious and little reported elements of the Second World War, Adolf Hitler provided for the coronation garb of the Holy Roman Emperor to be taken from Vienna and brought to Nuremberg, where it was to be enshrined and to give some validity to the Third Reich, to the Third Empire.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

There were still these remnants of Roman imperial dignity being claimed down until 1945.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

That was the year I was born, and no, I won't go there, that I'm any continuation.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

But it shows what a long shadow this ideal of a Roman Empire cast on the West, and the idea of being connected, of still having some connection with that great, noble, civilizing experiment.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

That's what Rome said of itself.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Rome was eternal.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

It seemed almost to manage it.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

But Rome was civilizing.

Renewing Your Mind
Introduction to the Middle Ages

Rome brought order to the barbarians.