Wagner Moura

And it's so cruel because you kill him twice.

You killed him, and then you try to kill his reputation.

You try to kill his memory.

Yeah, but that's how fascism works, unfortunately.

And sometimes I get scared because as a Brazilian,

I can see those signals very clearly because I come from a country that we had, unfortunately, not only one, but some dictatorships, a history of coup d'etats and authoritarian regimes.

So it's crazy how the signals are the same throughout history.

That's how it works everywhere, right?

Yeah, exactly.

I think that's the main thing for me is like I really –

I like to think that I was always very coherent with what I thought was artistically what I did.

That was all that always mattered to me, even when I, there were moments where I was like, oh, I really need that money, man.

Right, right.

But I'm like, I can't do this.

I can't do that because otherwise I'll be miserable.

So it feels good to look back and go like, thank God it didn't bend.

It feels coherent.

It feels good.

And they're blue now, too.

Yesterday.