Wagner Moura

It's like we are not living in the same world.

We are not seeing reality in the same way.

Right.

The hardest thing for me when I engaged in that fight against the government in Brazil to have my film released, and against the government itself and against everything that that government represented,

It was hard, but the hardest thing was because I felt that we were not talking the same language, that we were not talking about the same reality.

Yeah.

I think this is also a film about infamy.

You know, because it's...

how he was treated and how, and we shouldn't give any spoilers here, but the way he's treated in the end of the film and the way it's displayed, who he was,

in the newspaper, it's so unfair and that happens so often.

Like right now when the government and people are trying to discredit the man, I forgot his name, that got killed, the nurse,

Alex Preddy.

Yeah.

So they start all this campaign against him, like saying people are inventing lies about his life.

And it's so cruel because you kill him twice.

You killed him, and then you try to kill his reputation.

You try to kill his memory.

Yeah, but that's how fascism works, unfortunately.

And sometimes I get scared because as a Brazilian,

I can see those signals very clearly because I come from a country that we had, unfortunately, not only one, but some dictatorships, a history of coup d'etats and authoritarian regimes.