Warren Smith

Like we were at the beginning of this conversation, we were talking about, is this the right move with Iran?

And I don't know the answer, but it's like,

figuring out what the best move on the chessboard is.

And you have to have the wisdom to be able to identify where you're trying to go, determining your goal.

And yes, epistemology and debate, the lessons, because I've gotten the chance to talk to some of the best debaters working today.

Yeah, I mean, I've sat down with Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Crowder, Nick Fuentes, Dave Rubin.

It's just crazy.

And I learn a bit from each, and then I would reflect on it.

And sometimes they are verbal chess games more so than the other ones.

That conflict is higher.

I wouldn't say there's conflict with Nick Fuentes, but you're in a chess game, whether it looks like it or not.

And then after it, I think about what were the moves made, and I would literally write about it and apply those lessons.

It was fun to write, so...

Yeah, I take it.

I get what you mean.

Yeah, he's going to be guarded and you can, this is, and the best debaters will do this too.

They are looking, they're watching you very closely in those first minutes to figure out what is this interaction going to look like.

They're trying to gauge, is this person pulling like the Pierce Morgan?

We saw that interaction yesterday.

where you're trying to win at all costs right and prove that this my opponent is some caricature or something bad and you're that's your goal and we're we all do this subconsciously when you meet someone when your co-workers um you're trying to figure out what the game is that they're playing so yeah he's watching you like a hawk but if that is genuine and if you are genuine in that it can be you can disarm that quickly um and move into something deeper