Wayne

And I was lying on top of Capri and there was this other guy facing, I was under this Bunnings table and he was lying facing me, not under my table, but using my table as visible protection.

And, um,

I thought, okay, let me go out.

I said, make sure she doesn't move.

And as I stuck my head out, somebody shouted, get down, get down, stay down.

I've actually heard that on one of the videos that we're taking.

There was no chance we could move.

But when I was lying there, when it first happened, I thought, okay, police stations 500 metres away, less than 500, I could run it.

in two minutes and it was just going on and on.

And you could hear the sirens coming, but there was just, it just wasn't ending.

And I was thinking this was going to be wrapped up pretty quickly, finished, you know, it will be over.

And it just went on and on and on.

And I was just lying there and I couldn't see anything.

I couldn't see anything, but the guy that was facing me, he said, he can't see, he can't see them.

So we got visibly protected, but it was just underneath the Bunnings table that was right near

to where he was walking down, I'd say, 20 metres away from where Ahmed was.

No, I wanted to just make one point, like how we were feeling.

Like actually when we were driving towards that event, Vanessa, like on our way there that evening, Vanessa said to me when we were driving down, are you sure this is safe?

You know, we're under such threat in Australia.

I said to her, of course this is safe.