Wendell Potter

Chamber of Commerce and others that people hold with greater respect and believe are credible organizations that represent small businesses. And I can assure you the U.S. Chamber... It's not quite that. We worked with the U.S. Chamber and a lot of big organizations. We wanted to ally with them and let them carry our water for us because we couldn't do it ourselves.

Yeah, we were always constantly surveying people to find out what they were thinking about public policy as it pertains to health care. We would want to make sure that we understood how susceptible they were to agree with the Michael Moores of the world. How likely are they to say that we need to go to a single-payer health care system.

Yeah, we were always constantly surveying people to find out what they were thinking about public policy as it pertains to health care. We would want to make sure that we understood how susceptible they were to agree with the Michael Moores of the world. How likely are they to say that we need to go to a single-payer health care system.

Yeah, we were always constantly surveying people to find out what they were thinking about public policy as it pertains to health care. We would want to make sure that we understood how susceptible they were to agree with the Michael Moores of the world. How likely are they to say that we need to go to a single-payer health care system.

And our surveys showed, even when I was in the industry, that a majority of Americans were OK with that. So our job would be to dissuade Americans, to get people to fear that. And so our pollsters were also messaging experts. And they would also know how to ask some questions to get people to change their opinion or to see it from a different perspective.

And our surveys showed, even when I was in the industry, that a majority of Americans were OK with that. So our job would be to dissuade Americans, to get people to fear that. And so our pollsters were also messaging experts. And they would also know how to ask some questions to get people to change their opinion or to see it from a different perspective.

And our surveys showed, even when I was in the industry, that a majority of Americans were OK with that. So our job would be to dissuade Americans, to get people to fear that. And so our pollsters were also messaging experts. And they would also know how to ask some questions to get people to change their opinion or to see it from a different perspective.

And then that would enable us to do our talking points and to scare people in a certain way. For example, If you were to go to a Medicare for all or a single payer system in this country, by definition, it is going to be paid for with tax dollars. And every study you've ever seen will show that we can attain universal coverage in this country and pay less for it than the system we have now.

And then that would enable us to do our talking points and to scare people in a certain way. For example, If you were to go to a Medicare for all or a single payer system in this country, by definition, it is going to be paid for with tax dollars. And every study you've ever seen will show that we can attain universal coverage in this country and pay less for it than the system we have now.

And then that would enable us to do our talking points and to scare people in a certain way. For example, If you were to go to a Medicare for all or a single payer system in this country, by definition, it is going to be paid for with tax dollars. And every study you've ever seen will show that we can attain universal coverage in this country and pay less for it than the system we have now.

but you have to pay more taxes. So you would shift from paying premiums to private insurance companies to pay more that would be dedicated to health insurance. The insurance industry knew how to manipulate people to fear a tax increase. you would obscure the fact that they wouldn't be paying premiums, but get them to be opposed to paying additional taxes.

but you have to pay more taxes. So you would shift from paying premiums to private insurance companies to pay more that would be dedicated to health insurance. The insurance industry knew how to manipulate people to fear a tax increase. you would obscure the fact that they wouldn't be paying premiums, but get them to be opposed to paying additional taxes.

but you have to pay more taxes. So you would shift from paying premiums to private insurance companies to pay more that would be dedicated to health insurance. The insurance industry knew how to manipulate people to fear a tax increase. you would obscure the fact that they wouldn't be paying premiums, but get them to be opposed to paying additional taxes.

So that's just an example of how you do that. You poll people to find out what they currently think, and then you figure out how can you scare the shit out of them? How can you develop a messaging campaign to get them to fear what your opponents are advocating for?

So that's just an example of how you do that. You poll people to find out what they currently think, and then you figure out how can you scare the shit out of them? How can you develop a messaging campaign to get them to fear what your opponents are advocating for?

So that's just an example of how you do that. You poll people to find out what they currently think, and then you figure out how can you scare the shit out of them? How can you develop a messaging campaign to get them to fear what your opponents are advocating for?

I do. It's hard, certainly, to sustain any kind of movement, if you will. When Brian Thompson was murdered, there was a lot of publicity around that. I think there will be as that goes to trial. I think it's not a dead subject by any means yet. But I am seeing for the first time, I think in my lifetime, more bipartisan interest, at least here in Washington, to address some of these big problems.

I do. It's hard, certainly, to sustain any kind of movement, if you will. When Brian Thompson was murdered, there was a lot of publicity around that. I think there will be as that goes to trial. I think it's not a dead subject by any means yet. But I am seeing for the first time, I think in my lifetime, more bipartisan interest, at least here in Washington, to address some of these big problems.

I do. It's hard, certainly, to sustain any kind of movement, if you will. When Brian Thompson was murdered, there was a lot of publicity around that. I think there will be as that goes to trial. I think it's not a dead subject by any means yet. But I am seeing for the first time, I think in my lifetime, more bipartisan interest, at least here in Washington, to address some of these big problems.

You're not going to see Republicans embrace Medicare for all. That's just not going to happen. But they are beginning to pay attention to some of the practices of this industry and seeing how they're ripping off their constituents. So I'm seeing that. And in fact, I'll be meeting with every time I come to Washington with Republican offices because they run the town now.