Wendy K. Laidlaw

And something you said at the beginning struck me because there's an old idea that says the soul, each person that's born

in terms of the old imagination, is a soul coming into the world.

And the soul is here to transform.

And to transform means to move from one form to another.

And so the more that we're capable of transforming, the more we are genuinely present in the world, and in a world that's full of radical changes,

Inability to transform gets people stuck and they can be stuck in depression or just stuck in the sense of exclusion or stuck on one side of a false binary division.

To be alive right now, we need to be fluid.

We need to be open to change because it's happening whether we like it or not.

No, it's brilliant.

It's brilliant.

Well, later is when they really connect to it.

But getting the seeds in there makes it more possible.

It made me think of a little story about a woman.

And the woman, oh, it doesn't explain what happened, but she must have ended a relationship or something like that.

And she was living by herself and she's feeling very lonely.

And she realized she had to do something.

And she's walking down the street and passing a pet store.

And in the window was a bowl with a goldfish.

And she thought, that's it, I'll get a goldfish and then I'll have a companion.

So she gets, she buys the bowl and the fish and then she puts the water in and puts the bird.