Wendy Zuckerman

Yeah. So they didn't find anything unusual here. They let it go. Efren keeps working. And it's not until almost a year later, in February 1998, that the hospital receives another tip.

The guy on the phone ends up being a pretty dodgy guy with a criminal record and seems to be implying that if he gets an extra $50,000, he'll give more information. Wow. He's basically extorting the hospital.

The guy on the phone ends up being a pretty dodgy guy with a criminal record and seems to be implying that if he gets an extra $50,000, he'll give more information. Wow. He's basically extorting the hospital.

And so this time, the hospital calls in the Glendale Police Department. And by the way, we did reach out to the hospital to ask them about parts of this story.

And so this time, the hospital calls in the Glendale Police Department. And by the way, we did reach out to the hospital to ask them about parts of this story.

Yes, all questions should be directed at Glendale Police Department. So enter Detective Sergeant John McKillop from the Glendale Police Department. He is put onto this case and John and his team start poking around and John told us that he is actually not buying this idea that Efren is a killer.

Yes, all questions should be directed at Glendale Police Department. So enter Detective Sergeant John McKillop from the Glendale Police Department. He is put onto this case and John and his team start poking around and John told us that he is actually not buying this idea that Efren is a killer.

What was so odd about it?

What was so odd about it?

How are you feeling at this point, Ash? What's your spidey senses telling you?

How are you feeling at this point, Ash? What's your spidey senses telling you?

Yeah, that's John's memory of it as well.

Yeah, that's John's memory of it as well.

Yeah. So but still, to sort everything out on March 11th, 1998, John's partner, Detective William Curry, calls Efren into the station just to ask him some questions. But John actually had something else to do that day.

Yeah. So but still, to sort everything out on March 11th, 1998, John's partner, Detective William Curry, calls Efren into the station just to ask him some questions. But John actually had something else to do that day.

So I went to my hockey game. You were so sure that like, this is silly.

So I went to my hockey game. You were so sure that like, this is silly.

I love it. Right. No need. I've got hockey. You take care of this. But it turns out this was not silly. When the cops start questioning Efren, he confesses to killing dozens of patients.

I love it. Right. No need. I've got hockey. You take care of this. But it turns out this was not silly. When the cops start questioning Efren, he confesses to killing dozens of patients.

Yeah. Over, like, what span of time? It's pretty vague at this point. The cops just found it very strange, particularly given this attitude of, I'm going to go play hockey, sure, bring him in. They want him to do a polygraph. The way that the cops remember it is just all of a sudden he starts talking and they were in the room going, Someone get a pen. Write this down. Exactly, exactly.