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Wes Cummins

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The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

And then you'll start to see them flow through the income statement.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Right.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So there's a lag of when we sign the contract, when we take the debt to build it.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

And then, you know, 18 months later, you start to see the impact on the on the income statement.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So if we went to a steady state, you'll see us at about six and a half times on a debt load, which is really comfortable for any company, but especially for a company that has the kind of revenue visibility and guaranteed contracted revenue and cash flows that we have in the future.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Now, our cash flow is going to run negative and you should want it to run negative because that means growth.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

and then eventually when we get large enough it's going to flip the other way but you know you you want to see us spending a lot of money every quarter on capital expenditures because that's how we build the buildings that's how we grow and so you you should expect that to continue or hopefully it continues the way that stops is if we just sign no new contracts and we finish building and then we get to run a no growth business it'll be a really big no growth business but

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

We want to keep signing new contracts and keep building these buildings.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But we're in a capital deployment and a yield.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

This is an asset yield business.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So we build the asset and then we get paid and we're a landlord, just like if you were a real estate investor.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

And so, you know, everyone that will watch this, if you if you buy a house, what do you you put 10 or 20 percent down?

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

You take debt and then you pay for that over time.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Right.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

That's how everyone does it.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Same with any kind of commercial real estate, which is what this is.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

except our customer, we're landlord, they're tenant, and then we use their cash flows to pay the debt down.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But these are the largest companies in the world that we're contracted with for 15 years.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But we'll manage the debt.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

It gets a little lopsided at the start, again, because we take on the debt to build the building, and then the cash flow starts 18 months later.