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Wes Cummins

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The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Let me let me point out a couple of things.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So our net debt is close to zero.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

It's a few hundred million dollars.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Right.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So you should always look at net debt.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So how much cash do we have versus how much debt do we have?

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So our net debt is very small.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But the people that own our company should this is how I think about it and should think about it the same way.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

A very comfortable leverage ratio for these types of assets is about six to six and a half times.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

If the private operators, they leverage to about 12 to 13 times on their EBITDA.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

And so we won't do that.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

We're a public company and that's just what people are comfortable with on a public company.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But that leverage ratio is extraordinarily comfortable.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So when you when you look at.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

OK, so there was there was two point, you know, eight billion of debt.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

Now, the net debt was only a few hundred million dollars.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But OK, what I have contracted right now is over over a billion dollars of EBITDA or net operating income.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

So so that's that I'm at less than three times what I'm contracted.

The Rundown
How Applied Digital Became the Landlord for Big Tech’s AI Buildout

But you need to give give us time to finish building the buildings and for them to turn on.