Wes Moore

What about if that was your goal?

Instead of saying, how can I spend as little from my endowment as possible?

Yes, that's exactly right.

I actually think that, and first of all, the irony is when I think when you look at the places that the president has attacked, there's no sincerity.

in what he is saying, because a lot of the places that he actually has attacked have been the places that have really tried to play it straight down the lines.

And that's actually what's kept their C3 status independent, because they have not delved into the political or delved into the policy.

And I'm not saying that going into policy means that you have to agree or disagree with something inherently that an independent political party says.

But what I am saying is this, are you interested in solving the problem or not?

And if your answer is, well, I'm going to solve the problem, but I'm never going to deal with the policy issues, then I don't think that's real.

I remember when I was at Robinhood that we started focusing our time on things like the child tax credit and making enhancements in the earned income tax credit.

Because I said as an organization, we have spent all these years fighting poverty.

But if we can make an adjustment on child tax credit, you could do more in that one decision than the organization has done in 30 years.

Money in every poor family's pocket.

100 percent.

Right.

And so and I remember when we started advocating for that and I was speaking with a you know, we're speaking with now a former governor on this issue and using our voice to say that they should make this adjustment.

And and we got and I told him you should talk about your state of the state.

And I got an advance copy of the State of the State.

And there was nothing in there about child poverty or the child tax credit.

And I remember speaking with the head of public policy we brought on board, a guy named Jason Cohn.