Gov. Wes Moore on Iran, pardon power, and his future | NPR's Newsmakers
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What insights does Gov. Wes Moore share about military action in the Middle East?
Wes Moore is the Democratic governor of Maryland. He's considered a rising Democratic star, and he's sometimes talked about as a future presidential candidate. Moore is also an American combat veteran, and that was relevant to the discussion we had here in the Maryland Statehouse. I want to ask about some news. What are you thinking as your former unit, the 82nd Airborne Division, is deployed to the Middle East?
You know, I've had a lot of conversations with... some of the folks that I serve with, in fact, recently, as early as this morning, there was always something that we knew as paratroopers, as members of the 82nd, or just frankly, anybody in the military, is that you never authorize military force unless, A, military force was the last option, B, we had an understanding of what the mission and the endgame was, and C, you were spending your time and your energy building the right kind of coalition. that could help to be successful in advance. The problem with this mission is none of those things have, A, not been accomplished, but I'm not sure if any of the three of them have even been thought about because there is no one who could argue that military action was the last resort on this mission.
Nobody. There's nobody that can argue that we understand what the mission is or mission accomplishment is or the end game. And it's not because we're being naive. It's because we've all heard maybe a dozen things from the president himself. And the third thing, when we talk about an international coalition, I mean, that's almost laughable. when you look at the fact that there is not an international coalescing around this that's going to help us to accomplish the mission. So I remember when I was speaking, in fact, I was speaking with a person I serve with this morning, and I told him, I said, I'm just, I'm praying for our paratroopers. I'm praying for their family members. And honestly, I'm praying for the leadership of this country.
I'm praying for the president. I'm praying for the secretary of defense. I'm praying that God give them guidance and vision. I'm praying that God give them an understanding of the men and women and their families who they're asking to actually do the work, because I think that's been lost in all this. And I'm praying that we have leadership that can actually meet this moment.
When you talk about defining the mission, that's in a broad strategic sense. I want to ask a tactical question. As someone who served, there is talk of sending these troops perhaps to seize an island. You wouldn't attack Iran, the mainland, but you might try to seize an island. What does it take for a few thousand American troops to seize an island under fire?
Well, let's also be clear that there is no mission that is as easy as advertised. You know, when people talk about, well, you know, it's just a plot of land. You don't think the Iranians have thought about that? That the Iranians have thought about that for years? That we've been preparing for that for years? I was actually, ironically, I was talking with a guy that I both served with and also trained with. And he contacted me probably a couple weeks ago. And he said, remember in training when we used to run battle drills on Iran? and how complicated it was. We're talking 25 years ago. This is not a new phenomenon. So this idea that somehow this would be easy to do is laughable. And so I think that both the idea of the taking over of territory, or if they're talking about utilizing them or special operators to be able to seize enriched uranium, or if they're talking about using it to help to take over the Strait of Hormuz, or if they're talking about using them to go into Tehran,
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5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:28
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What insights does Gov. Wes Moore share about military action in the Middle East?
0:28–8:21
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How does Gov. Moore view the challenges facing the next U.S. president?
8:21–12:15
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What is Gov. Moore's stance on the impact of artificial intelligence on society?
12:15–13:55
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What are the implications of AI for future elections?
13:55–36:35
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