Whitney Carson

I think we're I mean, I don't know how you and Nat like work with help, but like we definitely have help and we have a whole support system.

Like my mom and my parents and his mom like actually like lived out there with us.

So we like swapped out grandma's.

for the four months because Carson was also full-time working as well.

We have our Finesse app that we launched during the season.

So him and my brother were working on that full-time as well.

So we had a lot of, we had a village.

We had definitely a village and like that support system, like without it, we wouldn't be able to do anything.

So like we're really, really appreciative and supportive of that.

And I think

Like we always come back to, yeah, the bigger picture.

Like what is the bigger picture?

We're doing this for our kids.

We're doing this for our family.

And as long as we keep that perspective, it's really hard to.

It's really, you know, we have to keep reminding ourselves to come back to that.

And also like our faith is a big deal to us as well.

And that's integrated in everything that we do.

They're four and two.

Is River two?