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He just started ignoring me. Nothing happened pre this, um, in the years before this happened. Um, And I would bring it up to my husband as like, hey, did you see that too? And he's not a confrontational person. So sometimes he'd be like, well, he didn't say hi to me either. But it started to get where it was more obvious and obvious. Years would go by, I would say something.
He just started ignoring me. Nothing happened pre this, um, in the years before this happened. Um, And I would bring it up to my husband as like, hey, did you see that too? And he's not a confrontational person. So sometimes he'd be like, well, he didn't say hi to me either. But it started to get where it was more obvious and obvious. Years would go by, I would say something.
And then I got to my threshold and basically told my husband he needs to say something because it's his brother. And so they did it at Thanksgiving last year. And when my husband confronted him, his brother said some very rude things about me. And so my husband punched him.
And then I got to my threshold and basically told my husband he needs to say something because it's his brother. And so they did it at Thanksgiving last year. And when my husband confronted him, his brother said some very rude things about me. And so my husband punched him.
And then that turned into a verbal argument for about 30 minutes that I too also engaged with because his wife jumped in and started to attack my husband. And I wasn't going to let that happen. Pretty much. That's how it felt. And then since that, like we left, His brother said some very mean things about me. He called me a lot of names.
And then that turned into a verbal argument for about 30 minutes that I too also engaged with because his wife jumped in and started to attack my husband. And I wasn't going to let that happen. Pretty much. That's how it felt. And then since that, like we left, His brother said some very mean things about me. He called me a lot of names.
We've unfortunately had four miscarriages, and he threw that in my face and said we didn't lose anything. We didn't lose any babies. And when he said that, I thought my husband was really going to murder him. Yeah, fair enough, dude. went into complete like anger rage. And I've never, my husband is a very laid back person. I've never seen him like that ever.
We've unfortunately had four miscarriages, and he threw that in my face and said we didn't lose anything. We didn't lose any babies. And when he said that, I thought my husband was really going to murder him. Yeah, fair enough, dude. went into complete like anger rage. And I've never, my husband is a very laid back person. I've never seen him like that ever.
Um, yeah, a little bit. I told him afterwards, I was like, geez, it's nice to see the fight in you.
Um, yeah, a little bit. I told him afterwards, I was like, geez, it's nice to see the fight in you.
But since then, you know, obviously we left and everybody's emotions were very high. Um, we, a week or two later went and went back to my, cause it's happened at my aunt's house. We went there and had a conversation with them and apologized to them about, like, what happened because it's still their home. And, you know, we kind of just told them then, like, we don't want to be around him.
But since then, you know, obviously we left and everybody's emotions were very high. Um, we, a week or two later went and went back to my, cause it's happened at my aunt's house. We went there and had a conversation with them and apologized to them about, like, what happened because it's still their home. And, you know, we kind of just told them then, like, we don't want to be around him.
We don't want to see him. We don't want to be around their family. And, you know, everybody, meaning my in-laws and my sister-in-law, who was also there, they all wanted to have this big conversation and this big meeting and have a family meeting, but it never happened. And this literally got swept under the rug and no one since then has brought it up.
We don't want to see him. We don't want to be around their family. And, you know, everybody, meaning my in-laws and my sister-in-law, who was also there, they all wanted to have this big conversation and this big meeting and have a family meeting, but it never happened. And this literally got swept under the rug and no one since then has brought it up.
Extremely important.
Extremely important.
And I'm glad that most dads aren't like that.
And I'm glad that most dads aren't like that.
I don't think anyone needs that.
I don't think anyone needs that.
It's the moves I learned from you watching you in Battle of the Bands.
It's the moves I learned from you watching you in Battle of the Bands.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like where we're at. We're both on the fence. I mean, we both want to go in the aspect of seeing... you know, his family, meaning his sister and his mom and dad and our daughter and their kids playing. But then we're on the, like, majority of our feelings are we don't want to be around him.
Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like where we're at. We're both on the fence. I mean, we both want to go in the aspect of seeing... you know, his family, meaning his sister and his mom and dad and our daughter and their kids playing. But then we're on the, like, majority of our feelings are we don't want to be around him.
Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense because it's kind of, I mean, that's kind of how I, how I feel. It's kind of like, you know, he, he thinks he did nothing wrong. So he's going to just go and we have to sit with this, like this happened and nothing's been said about it or talked about. And it's still very real for me.
Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense because it's kind of, I mean, that's kind of how I, how I feel. It's kind of like, you know, he, he thinks he did nothing wrong. So he's going to just go and we have to sit with this, like this happened and nothing's been said about it or talked about. And it's still very real for me.
His brother said some very rude things about me. My husband punched him. We've unfortunately had four miscarriages, and he threw that in my face and said we didn't lose anything. We didn't lose any babies. And when he said that, I thought my husband was really going to murder him.
His brother said some very rude things about me. My husband punched him. We've unfortunately had four miscarriages, and he threw that in my face and said we didn't lose anything. We didn't lose any babies. And when he said that, I thought my husband was really going to murder him.
Now, if we decided as a family to go, how would you say we should approach?
Now, if we decided as a family to go, how would you say we should approach?
And had a conversation.
And had a conversation.
Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think that conversation's ever going to happen because his brother is not willing to have that.
Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think that conversation's ever going to happen because his brother is not willing to have that.
I am a 911 operator.
I am a 911 operator.
Right. And that's kind of how I felt. The way that I was raised and what I saw, I told my husband before we even had our daughter, I never want her to be in that type of environment. And so that means we have to cut people out. We cut people out.
Right. And that's kind of how I felt. The way that I was raised and what I saw, I told my husband before we even had our daughter, I never want her to be in that type of environment. And so that means we have to cut people out. We cut people out.
So my question for you is how do I go about the holidays when my husband and his brother physically fought over me last holiday?
So my question for you is how do I go about the holidays when my husband and his brother physically fought over me last holiday?
No. So the backstory is this. My husband and I have been together 10 years, married five. Um, roughly about five or six years ago, his brother started to act like I didn't exist in the world. Um, in the beginning when it happened, I kind of thought, well, maybe he was having a bad day, but then it continued to happen.
No. So the backstory is this. My husband and I have been together 10 years, married five. Um, roughly about five or six years ago, his brother started to act like I didn't exist in the world. Um, in the beginning when it happened, I kind of thought, well, maybe he was having a bad day, but then it continued to happen.
He just started ignoring me. Nothing happened pre this, um, in the years before this happened. Um, And I would bring it up to my husband as like, hey, did you see that too? And he's not a confrontational person. So sometimes he'd be like, well, he didn't say hi to me either. But it started to get where it was more obvious and obvious. Years would go by, I would say something.
And then I got to my threshold and basically told my husband he needs to say something because it's his brother. And so they did it at Thanksgiving last year. And when my husband confronted him, his brother said some very rude things about me. And so my husband punched him.
And then that turned into a verbal argument for about 30 minutes that I too also engaged with because his wife jumped in and started to attack my husband. And I wasn't going to let that happen. Pretty much. That's how it felt. And then since that, like we left, His brother said some very mean things about me. He called me a lot of names.
We've unfortunately had four miscarriages, and he threw that in my face and said we didn't lose anything. We didn't lose any babies. And when he said that, I thought my husband was really going to murder him. Yeah, fair enough, dude. went into complete like anger rage. And I've never, my husband is a very laid back person. I've never seen him like that ever.
Um, yeah, a little bit. I told him afterwards, I was like, geez, it's nice to see the fight in you.
But since then, you know, obviously we left and everybody's emotions were very high. Um, we, a week or two later went and went back to my, cause it's happened at my aunt's house. We went there and had a conversation with them and apologized to them about, like, what happened because it's still their home. And, you know, we kind of just told them then, like, we don't want to be around him.
We don't want to see him. We don't want to be around their family. And, you know, everybody, meaning my in-laws and my sister-in-law, who was also there, they all wanted to have this big conversation and this big meeting and have a family meeting, but it never happened. And this literally got swept under the rug and no one since then has brought it up.
Extremely important.
And I'm glad that most dads aren't like that.
I don't think anyone needs that.
It's the moves I learned from you watching you in Battle of the Bands.
Okay.
Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like where we're at. We're both on the fence. I mean, we both want to go in the aspect of seeing... you know, his family, meaning his sister and his mom and dad and our daughter and their kids playing. But then we're on the, like, majority of our feelings are we don't want to be around him.
Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense because it's kind of, I mean, that's kind of how I, how I feel. It's kind of like, you know, he, he thinks he did nothing wrong. So he's going to just go and we have to sit with this, like this happened and nothing's been said about it or talked about. And it's still very real for me.
His brother said some very rude things about me. My husband punched him. We've unfortunately had four miscarriages, and he threw that in my face and said we didn't lose anything. We didn't lose any babies. And when he said that, I thought my husband was really going to murder him.
Now, if we decided as a family to go, how would you say we should approach?
And had a conversation.
Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think that conversation's ever going to happen because his brother is not willing to have that.
I am a 911 operator.
Right. And that's kind of how I felt. The way that I was raised and what I saw, I told my husband before we even had our daughter, I never want her to be in that type of environment. And so that means we have to cut people out. We cut people out.
So my question for you is how do I go about the holidays when my husband and his brother physically fought over me last holiday?
No. So the backstory is this. My husband and I have been together 10 years, married five. Um, roughly about five or six years ago, his brother started to act like I didn't exist in the world. Um, in the beginning when it happened, I kind of thought, well, maybe he was having a bad day, but then it continued to happen.