Will O'Callaghan

everyone's optimistic and it helps when you're in a venue that you kind of associate usually, maybe you'd be in there in the nighttime, point in hand, listen to a bit of music.

So everyone's a little bit more relaxed when they're sitting in wheelings rather than entering into their own territory.

I had a lot of that.

And I had a lot of people, specifically Alan Reynolds, who said, well, I've never been here, but if I'm sitting in the corner of a pub, I'm happy.

Reynolds does too.

I was a little bit shocked by this.

It's obviously the people at Cork like to scream from the rooftops when they've won a trophy.

And Reynolds, people at Waterford, a little bit more relaxed.

He won it in 1999.

I had no idea this.

Absolutely no idea.

Was it a junior championship?

Junior championship at Waterford in 1999.

They all count.

They all count.

Of course they all count.

John Caulfield's counted anyway.

That's all that mattered to him.

I do think the league is going to be a little bit more open in general.

I don't think it's going to be the case as it was last season when...