Will Shaw

And we like, we like being able to be open about that stuff.

Favorite business book.

Let's go with, Oh man.

Let's go with play bigger this time.

Recreation and dominating a category.

I wouldn't... At this time, I would say more than a CEO that I'm following or studying.

There's a couple of people I follow, a couple of authors that I actually follow on Twitter.

Nassib Tlaib, who wrote The Black Swan and...

anti-fragile.

Well, I'm not a developer.

So for me, it's probably all, I use Notion as my number one tool.

So all of my personal notes, all my work notes, all I keep track of everything is in Notion.

My whole life and probably our whole business is in Notion.

Yeah.

That's a, yeah, that's a big time development.

Uh, something I wish I knew when I was 20, that, that.

Football years, I imagine.

I really wish I would have had a backup plan after football.

I struggled figuring out transition from football into what I was going to do.

And I really I was that prototypical athlete that did not have that backup plan.