Will Sommer

Yeah.

And I mean, I think that's a lot of the strife that we're seeing right now in MAGA is this disappointment from, you know, what they're really billing themselves as sort of the America first wing.

And a lot of these people don't trust one another.

And then they're kind of disparate ideologically.

But, you know, whether it's Marjorie Taylor Greene or Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson, you have these figures who kind of thought they were getting a new Republican Party out of Trump.

And in a lot of ways, it's sort of the same old, at least in terms of foreign policy.

Yeah, you're getting the Muslim ban, Trump.

He wasn't exactly subtle about this.

Exactly.

Well, I guess the one difference is he's willing now to take graft from Qatar.

So he's willing to also take bribes from Muslim countries.

Yeah, I mean, so right now.

Looking out at MAGA, as far as I, you know, as you said, it's been a few hours.

I think people are kind of trying to figure out how to react.

I mean, there has been this sort of, among the people I cover, there's been this kind of simmering resentment at Susie Wiles, this feeling that, you know, she's this gatekeeper who won't let them truly run amok in the way they want.

And so...

periodically you get these kind of thinly sourced stories that are saying, you know, Susie's the one who, you know, won't let us do really ramp up deportations or something like that.

I don't think that's necessarily true, but I suspect that they'll be happy.

You know, this interview sort of suggests that she's on her way out.

Well, that's a funny one, because it's almost like they're suggesting, you know, this Epsi network goes deeper than we could ever imagine.