Will Sommer

Yeah, I mean, so right now.

Looking out at MAGA, as far as I, you know, as you said, it's been a few hours.

I think people are kind of trying to figure out how to react.

I mean, there has been this sort of, among the people I cover, there's been this kind of simmering resentment at Susie Wiles, this feeling that, you know, she's this gatekeeper who won't let them truly run amok in the way they want.

And so...

periodically you get these kind of thinly sourced stories that are saying, you know, Susie's the one who, you know, won't let us do really ramp up deportations or something like that.

I don't think that's necessarily true, but I suspect that they'll be happy.

You know, this interview sort of suggests that she's on her way out.

Well, that's a funny one, because it's almost like they're suggesting, you know, this Epsi network goes deeper than we could ever imagine.

You know, they're in the Bureau of Prisons.

They got Ghislaine this cozy transfer, coincidentally, after this interview with Todd Blanche, where she exonerated Trump, which I'm sure had nothing to do with it.

The Ghislaine thing, I'm so glad you're focusing on this.

Every time we talk about Epstein, and there's gonna be more Epstein news later this week, when the files are supposed to be released, we'll see if they are.

It's just crazy how relatively rarely Ghislaine comes up because that is such a smoking gun that there was some kind of quid pro quo.

She's sent to the nicest possible prison.

There's no explanation for it.

And now, you know, obviously, Susie Wiles, I think, detects that this is a problem because she's, you know, oh, I don't know, you know, I mean, they'll fire people in this administration in a drop of a hat.

And yet,

The Bureau of Prisons apparently operates autonomously, doesn't have to answer the president for anything.

She says, well, if it matters, I guess I could look into it for you.